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I saw that this morning. It is a prediction for sure. Good one as well but still just prediction.
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I would love to see them take a run at Chris Sale.
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You think the White Sox will be contending?
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If they really are serious about competing next year, they will at least try to do both.
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good post - A very positive situation for the Sox to be in.
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I read that article this morning. Good to see Guerra getting some print. The key to this piece for me is the expression "right now". If Vasquez can't come back healthy, Swihart is needed. If he can, I think that they will trade Swihart if they can. They have a number of very good young players who can produce at the plate as well as Swihart has. I don't see him as any more valuable than Moncada, Benintendi. Travis or Shaw unless they intend to catch him full time.
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Agree here too.
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In terms of baseball economics today, it makes sense. Remember when 13 million seemed like a fortune? Just an average man's wage these days. I grew up poor so I probably could still get by on that paltry sum. My lifestyle would take some hits for sure but I could get by.
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The ridiculous numbers tend to make me care less and less about the game I grew up loving. It is a joke.
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That is crazy!
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I am not opposed to thinking that Buchholz's contract should have been picked up. I'm just opposed to the thought line that he might provide any answers to this team moving forward. No matter what someone's stats say, I am not buying the fact that he was a 25 million dollar pitcher last year. I don't think his signing answers any of this team's questions about next year's rotation. A package of Buchholz and Swihart might get someone else to at least think about making a trade with us. If the Red Sox have 13 mil to pay for a part time player - great. Maybe he will help us. His career has certainly made me appreciate all of the great ones who go out there and play hurt, sick, and just plain beat up.
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It is insane for sure. If you use the stats, the suggestion is that he might be getting that over 4 or 5 years. I doubt that happens. I am a believer in using all of the statistical data that you can use to help in the making of any decisions but I have to say that if the suggestion is that Buchholtz was worth 25 mil on the open market last year and Price was worth 50 mil, it would look to me that someone is using the the stats to tell a story that they want to hear.
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Everything points to Swihart having a pretty good upside for sure. But if the Sox decide to not use him behind the plate, he becomes just another prospect. His bat is replaceable and maybe even by a better one. Signing Leon has to have some significance. A great defensive (respecting all aspects) and a light hitting catcher is not unusual. If Vasquez is healthy, it makes the discussion moot. Hannigan and Leon can get it done if a package of Swihart and someone else brings us a young potential number one. All that said, I still like Swihart and would hate to see him traded. I just think that it is logical to include him if you are going to trade.I would prefer seeing him traded as opposed to either Moncada or Benintendi going.
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i guess he was pretty good. So common logic says Price and a few others must be worth - what - 50 million per year?
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Pretty sad when you think how badly teams must need pitching if you consider what he is worth. So you must at least cut those numbers in half if you are talking about a guy who pitches half of the time? I really would hate to see the Sox ever be in a position where they have to count on him for anything.
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Ben would be the guy you keep in your organization but don't give the keys to the city to. He did a great job at what he does best.
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I'm not sure that they are better options - Travis Shaw and Sam Travis. Of the two, it's anybody's guess. They both could be good options. Shaw - a little more power than both Swihart or Travis but from a pure hitter and first baseman - Sam Travis. It really is just an opinion - I don't want to see them trade either Betts or Bogaerts and Swihart just looks like the most valuable piece that could be moved without hurting us too much. I certainly wouldn't trade a player with his type of potential unless the return was real good as in that top of the rotation young arm. it looks like we have the players to cover both his potential both at the plate and in the field. To get something special i think that they will have to give up something special. If they decide to keep Swihart and move him to lets say first base, that is all good. If they do that, and still want to trade for a quality pitcher, I think the targets are going to be Betts or Bogaerts. I don't want to see that happen.
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I hate to appear to be the malcontent here but I think that our options at first base will be better without trying to turn Swihart into one. His biggest value will be either behind the plate or as a trading chip.
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I agree with you but did not see that in your original post.
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If you consider the whole package, you are probably right. I don't see him ever being the equal to Vasquez in terms of just doing all of the things a good catcher does from a defensive perspective. Swihart will get better but having watched a small sample of both there is no question who I would rather have behind the plate. Moving Swihart to first might be an option but looking down the line, I think first base is covered very well. I like the kid but I still think of all our tradeables he carries a lot of clout. If Vasquez is healthy, and Swihart is part of a package that provides us with a pitching improvement, we will not miss him.
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Her comment was that she keeps hearing that if he continues to improve that he will become the better of the two catchers. I have not heard that and am thinking that I might have missed something. I try to follow the news but I have not heard this. I am pretty sure that Kimmi doesn't feel this way. I wonder who does. If Vasquez stays in baseball, I don't think that anyone questions which of the two will be the better defensive catcher. Swihart will get better for sure but I doubt if he gets to the level of a Vasquez.
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He's got his hands full. If he doesn't trade some of our wanna be starters, I guess I would like to see some of them recycled to the bullpen. Kelly would go to the pen first for me. I don't hate Buchholz, but I am sick of hearing how good he could be. I want gritty and tough from at least most of our starters.
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Where did you read or hear that the thinking was that Swihart would become a better defensive catcher than Vaazquez?
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I'm really hoping that they go for two real pitchers. Not the kind that have potential. The real deals this time. One through free agency and one through a trade.
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If the club decides to acquire pitching through trade and they go after a good one, it will cost someone major league ready. Swihart fits the bill. He fits it very well if Vasquez is healthy and ready to go. You have to take a chance somewhere to get better on the mound. A Vasquez who hits .250 or below will more than make up for any hitting lack with his glove. Swihart is a nice young player and they may decide to keep him but if the trade route is the one they want to go, he will be target.