onlybereaved

Hope everyone had a good day today. Excited for baseball tonight. Let's have some fun

On one hand, I see what you're saying (I think...) - On the other hand, it seems a bit arrogant of you to suggest that anyone who didn't shrug-off the opening sweep as if it is just business as usual and nothing a fan could be concerned about, is a newb-fan who needs to find a new team blah blah. Get over yourself imho regarding your position of being able to say something like that. Plenty of fans who hold "fan-cred weight" over you would disagree. You're entitled to your opinion, but easy on generalizing as if you are the decider of how a "legit" fan can react to a loss/multiple losses/team performance regardless of whether that be in April, later in the season. Seriously. Also, you may want to be considerate of the fact that the people reacting this way that you have a problem with, could expect a better performance out of the current roster without anything to do with trades/whether or not this is a wild-card/rebuilding year. No offense, but yeah. Edit to add..."I almost hope we fall out this year..." to rid the team of as many fans who aren't on your 'level' is SO stupid considering even if that did work, The Red Sox 'fell out' for a s***** ass reason/theory, and once they rebuilt or got back on a level of being awesome those fair weather fans return....making that whole theory useless In fairness to your post/thoughts, Pedey just made a good point in the media that if the Red Sox win the next 10 and are 10-3, people will say "wow, what a great start we have gotten off to" etc. But some fans live and die on every play, and relax in retrospect...it's just how some people are built/wired. Last year during the time of the rough start (first say 13 games), fans were upset/concerned just like now. Then, when we hit a hot streak, they were able to look back and in retrospect think a bit differently and be more considerate of how baseball seasons can just be series of hot/cold win/loss streaks and to just not be so reactionary on a game/a few games. Collapse aside, some people have been waiting for baseball season and following the Sox spring training and being so excited, that they can't help but react in the moment. That doesn't mean they should be cast off as some pink hat new fan who needs a lesson from the great Dojji.

I feel you, BornToRun. Win and Lose with your team, bro. We are obviously going to have both great and terrible times/streaks. 0-3 really sucks right now, and we have much to be concerned about with this year's team. But like you said, we have time to right the ship and potentially do that in a big way. This start could possibly be a 'good' thing if it serves as a wake-up call to our team and forces guys to get to their A-games immediately and to remain there. It's funny when you think of it...Some fans (most likely all of us on here) probably get more upset over losses than the players/management do. After all, they make the big bucks and live the life...That doesn't apply to everyone, but I am sure it's true to an extent. Either way, let's hope that we can look back at how we felt after the 0-3, and laugh once we are in a clinched playoffs spot feeling confident and looking sharp.

I don't dislike Aceves - I do however not feel good/happy/confident in any capacity whatsoever of him being "our closer".

Happy Easter Boys (and VA/ladies) I finished my midnight shift, went home and slept and then had Easter dinner with the family. We watched the masters, and I didn't bring up the Red Sox and hoped no-one would spoil the outcome of the game so that I could watch it later on... What a game. We fought hard and had a bunch of positive things happen. After the 4+ hours of back and fourth, I was devastated to see it end like that as I am sure you guys were also. I wish I could have watched it while on here with you guys (mostly for BornToRun commentary lol)...But I look forward to being here with you guys for the Toronto game today. Last year we were like 2-10 or something and then came back strong, so let's just keep our heads up and look forward to improving from this point. Also, pretty stoked that the NYY are also 0-3, not that it makes up for us being 0-3 but yeah. Detroit can eat f***, they really looked good and we have to give them that. Here's to sweeping the Blue Jays. Happy Easter.

Word. I completely understand that a good % of fans will rep Beckett until the end regardless of his attitude/effectiveness/ineffectiveness. I just don't fall into that % category. Regardless... as long as he is on the Red Sox, I hope he does well for us.

Put Padilla in the Rotation and move Bard to Closer Voted lol.

I guess so. Not me, though. I wouldn't. We will agree to disagree.

I guess the best way for me to explain why it "matters" to me...is that whenever I think of the New York Yankees, I always see them as some evil villain. I get a perception of arrogance from them that really turns me off, and I see that same arrogance and get that exact same perception from Josh Beckett. The Red Sox are the 'good guys' vs. the evil empire, to me (for lack of better explanation)...Josh Becketts s***** arrogant attitude problem has the same traits as those I oppose in life, baseball, anywhere. f*** him, whether he pitches well or not (obviously, in my opinion)

If I had a son, who loved baseball and wanted to be a pitcher... I would want him to look up to say...Verlander, opposed to Beckett...Regardless of what your niece thinks on the subject. Your niece could swear all-day long that Josh is a 'nice guy', but that he just turns into an arrogant idiot towards the media - still, I don't see a need for it - Verlander and other guys who know what's up with a good attitude and aren't idiots to anyone (media, fans, anyone for that matter). I don't get it - so, someone else was arrogant to writers, so that validates Josh Beckett being an idiot to "media"? Alright? I guess it comes down to Josh being an idiot to media (if that's what you claim/call it), displays an arrogance which causes problems because he is on a team. I don't see A-gon/Dustin/Anyone on our team being anything but professional/classy, Josh stands out as being arrogant. That is a problem for me.

I have always kept my opinion of him to myself (other than to my girlfriend/family) out of respect for the fans who like/love him. Last year that changed. This year I am an outright advocate of ridding the team of his pollution. Everything about him off the field alone is enough for me to want him gone. I don't even care if he lived up to playing like he did in 2003 era. Just the way (mannerisms) he says things like "my wife was having our kid in September and that's more important to me" bothers me. Like, obviously that's more important and I agree with that...but any classy player would have relayed that with a bit less arrogance than Josh. He has always been an outright prick, and I have always outright disliked pricks. I love class-act players who could be role models for kids (Jacoby Ells, Demar DeRozan, etc)...I just don't understand how someone so blessed could be such a f***ing *******. Boggles the mind. I imagine (and hope) that at least 50% of the Red Sox organization dislikes him and shares my opinion. Same with the fan-base.

Trust me, I know that Josh Beckett would never be classy or humble. I am just saying that I will always dislike him because of that. I can't stand the fact that he is seemingly the only bad-attitude arrogant dick on our whole team. Before, it was at least a laughable thing for me because he still pitched well consistently. Now, it bothers me more.

Yup. QFT Beckett needs to become classy, humble, and lose his s***** attitude. Then I will give him a break when he shits the bed like he did today. Until then, no love to Beckett from this guy

Absolutely

Larry King

Cody Ross is going to be a huge force for us...Not like everyone is doing well and he isn't. Cody Ross haters gonna choke on the feet in their mouths 100%.

By August, I may just have traded in my 3 years of sobriety and will buy someone a beer or 3 if you come meet me in Boston for the games vs. Baltimore

Aviles is dead to me. He beats IGGY out of the position, and then plays like a AA guy at best. Everything he does is causing grief.

Aviles scared Ells off that catch

Yeah - We I am all about winning and losing with class. We can be classy while losing/being off to a rough start against one of the best teams in baseball.

Seriously, leave the tr0ll out of this - let the real fans enjoy the game - ban the tr0ll, let's try to at least compose ourselves and pull for breaking the SO with a HR or 3

Aviles is really frustrating me. I hated Beckett already, but now I am starting to hate Aviles