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Word. That makes sense, man.

lols!!! No care. There will always be a hot grill to replace the next one, and so on.

I just recently realized something pretty neat/cool... Last year I was only able to attend 2 MLB games. 1 was at Fenway Park to see Boston Vs. Chi-Sox, the other was in Toronto to see Boston Vs. The Jays. Both games Tek hit a home run. Big ones too. Solid that I was able to see that looking back and knowing it was his last year in the MLB. Funny too, because in Toronto my girlfriend was asking why Tek was the captain (she is slowly learning about baseball and the Red Sox)...She said he seemed slow and sluggish etc. I was telling her that he is a work-horse, and right-ready to retire in the very near future. We laughed the next inning when he launched a bomb of a home run. Also, someone give me a late-pass on this post.

I want Aceves to be a starter for the Bosox. I just have a feeling he would do well, and only get better in that role. Obviously that could be argued to no end.

People who drink and drive need to be punished way more harshly than they are currently. Not to mention the fact that celebs get away with fines and slaps on the wrist for the most part. f*** people who drink and drive.

lols @ the recent beat-down of the Toronto Maple Leafs (8-0) Oh, the joy of being a Leafs fan. The gift that keeps on giving.

Amen. Without a doubt, the Red Sox players will know whether or not V has 'the power' in terms of decision making. If they know that he is an errand-boy for upper-suits/FO, why bother listening to what the guy says or follow his command etc. The Red Sox need a manager who has decision making ability/power

Everything points to Aceves being a better fit as a starter when compared to Bard IMO. I just don't think forcing the issue and trying hard to make Bard a starter is productive or worthwhile. Just my ignorant two-cents, really.

Agreed. Obvious, Troll is obvious. I have seen 12 year old kids on BF3 forum who are better trolls than this guy, and he's a try-hard troll at that. Leave the trolling to someone who knows how to do it, JE. Here's a lesson on trolling.... Eat f***. :harhar:

It's such a shame that there isn't really a way of preventing a percentage of people from buying a s***-load of tickets and almost making a living on selling them at ridiculous marked-up prices. It's also a shame that Boston Red Sox season tickets are so appealing to business men who have no interest in the team or in baseball. I mean, they could hypothetically limit the amount of season ticket holders, and have a lottery of sorts, where every ticket gets sold from the Boston Red Sox to the fan at face-value...LOL right. That sort of thing just wouldn't work in our world today. Also, is it a safe assumption that the demand would be the same if we had a facility of 70,000? Or, is part of the current demand driven in large-part to people knowing how hard it is currently to obtain tickets for games? See what I'm saying? No doubt there is enough demand for a steady 50,000 strong and constant. But would CEOs and these suits get the same hard-ons for a facility where johnny-normal fan can get tickets to every game? That may even solve the corporate coke-head hoarding seats issue. lol There would be so many pros AND cons to the hypothetical new 70,000 capacity facility. The things discussed in this thread open that can of worms nicely

Amen! Should be one of the best days of his life too, for sure.

My friend actually has been a season ticket holder for 10+ years, and disagrees with this. The so called magic doesn't wear off everyone, just wears off of you and everyone who shares your opinion (which may very well be 50%, as I would assume the differing in opinion on the subject to be roughly 50/50 based on no sited info or facts) Also, there are people in Boston who don't see it as a magical vacation destination or disneyland who agree with us, opposed to sharing your opinion. Again, you cant'/won't/don't speak for 'all of the season ticket holders' or for anyone/everyone from Boston.

Sort of like the new Ford Mustangs/Dodge Chargers? Sort of like the new updated anime logos teams change to that look stupid? (+countless more, and better examples) Your point is taken, but don't think you speak for all of us when you say "The atmosphere won't change with a new park" as if its some matter of fact jet-set thing. Your opinion shouldn't count solely based on your nu-metal flaming skull avatar, anyways lol!

@a700hitter Right, but why should I 'care' about the opinion of someone attending Fenway Park who have no emotional attachment to the Red Sox/Fenway Park. After all, they wouldn't give a rats-ass about my emotional attachment to the Red Sox/Fenway Park. In the end, those two should cancel each other out. If anything, the people who DO have emotional attachment to the Red Sox and Fenway Park should 'win'. lol :harhar: @Jacoby Ellsbury are you trolling, er? Every ball-park has drunk fans, or "chimps/apes"...lols "the place smells like piss", but yeah...obvious, troll is obvious.

One thing that needs to be said (regardless of your opinion on the subject)... "It's just not a good place to watch a ball-game" is 100% subjective. To say that like it's 'actual fact' is laughable. Seriously. It's arguably the best place to watch a ball-game, but that too is 100% subjective. Also "The place is a dump" being said over and over is sort of silly also. That's an exaggeration, obviously...But given the history of Fenway Park, it's just offensive to at least half of the fans/people with opinions on this subject. Just saying. It's one thing to have a different opinion than those who are happy with Fenway Park as-is opposed to the idea of a new facility...It's something completely different to start saying the place is a dump and not a good place to watch a ball-game.

Thanks, SB. I just don't want to come across as "that new guy from Gaynada who is already stepping on peoples toes" lol. Cheers.

In the end, I guess I am largely ignorant to the greater-picture as you guys would see it. If I lived in Boston, I would most likely have the opposite opinions of the ones I previously posted. It would be frustrating to live within Fenway vicinity and to not be able to see more than a couple of games per season (and those games may be in an obstructed-view out-dated seat, and I would have to over-pay considerably just to be there). My opinion is based on being able to see 1 or 2 games a season, and the trip to Boston being considered a vacation where I book time off of work, and spend more than I normally would otherwise given my being a Red Sox fan but living 800 miles away in a different country. I hear you guys, I hear you. I have been blessed having been able to see the Red Sox at Fenway Park, and I would be blessed being able to see them in the future even if that were at a new and up-to-date facility. Ultimately the world is a scary place right now, and I don't want to argue with people who are passionate about the same baseball team as me. More important things to worry about (like should I not have children because the people who run the world are psychotic tyrant murderers, etc) I am also the king at grammatical errors and run-on sentences, eh? Edit to note...You guys ever watch an MLB game in the "Skydome" aka Rogers Center? LOL. Good Lord. You talk about having the opposite problem as the ones discussed here with Fenway Park. It's like endless capacity, no obstruction per-Se, but you're feel like you're watching the game from outer space or from a few blocks away at least unless you're sitting in the first 100 rows lol. That most likely adds to my biased opinion on why Fenway Park is awesome to me.

@Sweet Chin Music33 With all due respect, you being from Boston and going there 5-10 times per year vs. me or someone else from Ontario, FLA, CA or anywhere else for that matter who goes 1 time per year doesn't make you right and me wrong. It's subjective. Also, your mention of most of the people in attendance not knowing baseball or caring about the team is true. But whether the capacity was 39,000 or 70,000, I feel as though that same percentage of corporate-suits would be there high on coke trying to feel important/cool, or whatever they do. As far as giving RedSoxfanforlife305 grief for having an opinion without having been there...Really? I knew of the small percentage of pole obstruction seats and of the differences between Fenway Park and other new-style places prior attending Fenway. 6/10 Red Sox fans aren't from Boston, and 1/3 of them have never been to Fenway Park (I made these up, right on the spot, lol). @a700hitter I say, if that's the case then don't bother spending a dime on the tickets unless it's a seat you can see home-plate and the mound from (or not have any other complaints about). I hear you guys, but it's not like these seats are made of razor blades and give you cancer while facing the washrooms and having the potential to explode killing innocent children at any point. I just use the seating chart, and do 3 mins of homework on the seat before I buy it. Also, Boston considers any/every part of their history to be a shrine, why not Fenway Park as well? Would be hugely hypocritical if it wasn't. Either way you will have 2 valid sides to the argument - and I don't care who lives in Boston or who has been to more games. The truth is that it would be both crucial/awesome as well as devastating/terrible to get rid of 'the dump' to erect an amazing state of the art version. Also, some people would roll over in their graves to hear Boston Red Sox fans calling Fenway Park a dump and whining about the seats not being lazy-boys. People nowadays, man. lol. (keep in mind, I am in good spirits about the discussion, no-one get upset now)

Right. I hear you. The issue is that they wouldn't make a replica of the old stadium with all the newer amenities. They would increase capacity by 20 or 30 thousand people, and the atmosphere changes regardless of how hard they try to keep it intimate/similar. . I have seen it happen in Buffalo (NHL, Sabres) as well as in Toronto (MLB, Jays) - Sure the older places were outdated, had no place to park, etc. But these new places that they sold folks on, suck so hard in comparison (atmosphere wise). I would much rather sit in an out-dated uncomfortable seat at Fenway Park than in an awesome seat anywhere else. There's nowhere to park in Boston anywhere else, so people are used to that. Concession prices are no different than anywhere else as far as I am concerned. So if you are suggesting that they need to replicate Fenway Park with the same capacity, but without the 1% of obstructed seats, and in a new location with more parking and cheaper concessions...I don't see that being something that would be even remotely close to worthwhile - in other words, it just wouldn't ever happen. "suck it up, buttercup" is what I say to the whiners. Would you rather see your favorite musician in a huge-ass 'comfy' stadium, or in a small venue with intimate atmosphere but 'not enough bathrooms' lol. There are pros and cons - totally different ways to look at it and huge give and take in either choice.

Count me as one of the people who are stoked on this. I would rather enjoy games at the current Fenway Park than in some hi-tech huge state of the art facility. Different strokes.

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