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Ryan has some controlled years left. He's a legit #2. Unless the prospect package added onto the OF was overwhelming, I'd ship off either Abreu or Duran for Ryan.

What does re-signing him have to do with the trade? Couldn't they just sign him in the offseason if they wanted to and not have had to give up two prospects? No way is the May trade a B.

The season wasn't wasted, just the trade deadline IMO. They didn't even really move enough of the Rule 5 guys.

1. Don't say "we're going to be buyers" and then only come away with two rental "upside" guys. In fact, it's better to not say anything at all. 2. Don't say "we understand the fans frustration." See point 1. Communication from the CBO is just downright awful. 3. The ongoing trade deadline punting (22-25), especially for a team that is supposedly making a run at the playoffs, just doesn't make sense. Put away the models and make some moves. When the competition around you is getting better, sitting back and only doing little is only adding fuel to point #2. 4. I mentioned recently that Breslow has started to empty out the org of hitters and only replaced the pitching pipeline. This continued with the trades of Jordan, Tibbs and Ehrhard for two rental pitchers. In a vacuum, the moves aren't a huge problem. However, we've seen what happens when the Sox can't callup internal options when everyday guys get injured in recent years and it wasn't pretty. Tibbs may have been further down the depth chart, but there's a good chance that you'd need him in two years. Same when you just put in a "throwaway" like Ehrhard.

The prices are always high at the deadline! Especially for cost controlled pitching!

I think they are worried about the second level. They are most likely over the first level.

Why did they virtually stand pat in '23 and '24? In '22, they didn't even do enough of a sell off.

I wouldn't say "vast majority" but a significant amount. I'd also say that the Sox have a history of making trades at the very end of the deadline.

If they really aren't going over 9-10M, I think it's Kelly and maybe another role player.

Talks are still ongoing about a Merrill Kelly trade to the Sox.

They were over that CBT level with Devers onboard. They got under after the trade. So were they ok with that budget prior to going into the year or were they always aiming to get under that budget by the deadline?

Well, we sent Ryan Kalish to AAA and he ruined his career by getting injured there! If only they kept him in BOS! Maybe just have Roman hang out with Wally behind the Monster?

Myers: 28 of 75 appearances were 1 BF in 2004. So LOOGY is 1 of 3 games.

Maybe should have sat them? IDK.

Sox have shown interest in Civale. Are worried about the next CBT threshold ($9-10M), which is complicating the deadline per Chris Cotillo.

I'd rather Murphy than Hicks or Alcala. Murphy throws harder than Bernardino and matches Weissert and Burdi.

Maybe? Every pitch of his is really good except for his 4 seamer which he throws 50% of the time.

Smart guys can have really large blind spots. Anybody want to go see Coldplay?

Murphy is better, for sure. If they get to September, they may pull the cord and let Alcala go. Criswell and Campbell are the two worst pitchers on the 40 man. Alcala gets let go because he doesn't have options though. Kind of depends on what other moves they make between then? IDK. I think Murphy has a similar ceiling to Crawford. People were probably too high on Crawford at one point and probably too low on Murphy now.

That was one of my complaints when they were yapping after the Devers trade. Why bother state that you're going to be BUYERS at the deadline if you can't guarantee it. Don't put those expectations out there! The same crap happened last year with Tom Werner in the offseason.

Heyman says probably not. Nightengale says definitely not. People all over the map on this one.

I was admitting my mistake with my first sentence bucko. If I didn't word it to your liking, oh well.