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Papelbon wants an extra year from whatever team signs him. ROFLCOPTER

I died.

But you also just need to keep runners off of the bases no matter how they get there. Kimbrel's WHIP is 1.103, Barnes' is 1.286. Barnes is far more likely to give up a hit than Kimbrel.

Kimbrel has a better ERA+, FIP, WHIP and K/9 than Barnes. The only thing Barnes is better at is BB/9. Kimbrel has been more trustworthy than Barnes in much higher leverage situations.

I think Barnes is fine as a 7th inning guy. I also think there are other places where the pitching staff is being discussed and this question could be posed there.

See the original post? I didn't say he was healthy for a full year. I just said that when he was healthy, he was worth it to the Dodgers. Max stated that he was "nothing" which I still disagree with. When he pitched, he was generally worth it.

It's quite the shame. Ever since SFF disappeared, we no longer have posters that give Larry Lucchino rides home.

a) PLAYERS ELIGIBLE. (1) Major League Roster Players. To be eligible to play for a Major League Club in a Wild Card Game, Division Series, League Championship Series, or the World Series, a player must (A) have been on a Major League Active, Disabled, Bereavement / Family Medical Emergency, Paternity, Suspended or Military List of such Major League Club as of Midnight Eastern Time on August 31, or on such date be under control, but on optional assignment, or on assignment from another Major League organization and not yet reported (AKA MUST BE ON 40 MAN ROSTER); and ( have remained reserved to such Major League Club (at the Major or Minor League levels) through the beginning of the applicable post-season series, unless the player is replacing an injured player pursuant to Rule 40(a)(3) (EXCEPTION TO THE 40 MAN RULE ABOVE). (IGNORE THE STUFF BELOW UNLESS YOU ENJOY READING HORRIBLY WRITTEN GOBBLEDYGOOK) (2) Submission of Rosters. Each Major League Club that participates in a postseason series (including the Wild Card Game) must establish for each such series, from its complement of eligible players, an active roster of no more than 25 (and no less than 24) players and transmit such active roster to the Office of the Commissioner at such time before the scheduled start of each post-season series as the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee may set. Each player named to the roster for a series must be expected to be physically able to perform at some point in such series. No player on the Disabled List whose minimum period of inactivity has not yet expired before the scheduled start of the post-season series may be named to the roster for such series or otherwise replaced under this Rule 40. Except as permitted in Rule 40(a)(4), there shall be no substitutions made during a post-season series following a Major League Club’s submission of its active roster for that series. (3) Replacements for Injured Players Before a Series. With the express consent of the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee prior to the start of a postseason series (including the Wild Card Game), a Club may name a player in its organization to a roster for such series in order to replace an injured Major League player. A Club will not be permitted to name such a replacement unless (A) the injured Major League player is eligible under Rule 40(a)(1); ( the injured Major League player is unable to render service in such series because of a specific injury or ailment; © the injured Major League player’s Club has submitted written proof of the player’s disability; and (D) the injured Major League player’s Club has requested permission from the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee to name such a replacement. If the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee grants permission to the injured Major League player’s Club to make such a replacement, the player named to the roster for the series (including the Wild Card Game) as a replacement must also be an eligible player pursuant to Rule 40(a)(1) or must (E) have been on a Minor League Active, Disabled, Temporarily Inactive, Suspended or Military List of such Major League Club as of Midnight Eastern Time on August 31, or on such date be designated for assignment or under control, but not yet reported, on assignment from another Major League organization; (F) have remained reserved to such Major League Club (at the Major or Minor League levels) through the time of replacement; and (G) be placed on the Club’s Major League Reserve List. (4) Replacements for Injured Players During a Series. A Club may request permission from the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee to replace on the Club’s active roster for the remainder of a post-season series a player who is unable to render service in such post-season series because of a specific injury or ailment that occurred after the Club’s roster for such series had been submitted, provided that the Club submits written proof of the disability to the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee. The Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee may approve or disapprove a request for a roster substitution and may make whatever investigation the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee deems appropriate in exercising such discretion. The Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee’s exercise of discretion may include disapproval of the request for a roster substitution if the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee determines that the request was not made in a reasonable amount of time in advance of a game to allow for investigation of the facts and circumstances. If the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee gives express approval for the substitution, (A) the player added to the roster must also be an eligible player pursuant to Rule 40(a)(1) or Rules 40(a)(3)(E) through (G); ( a pitcher may be replaced only by a pitcher and a player other than a pitcher may be replaced only by a player other than a pitcher; and © the injured player being replaced shall be ineligible to play for the remainder of such series, as well as the next subsequent post-season series that year.

I'd flip flop Sandy and JBJ in that lineup.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/109921/full-primer-on-playoff-roster-eligibility

Kopech to pitch in the bullpen down the stretch? Ok!

Smith has been on the DL. He'll be the boss when he comes back next year. I'd still do that deal today.

http://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2016/08/17/lets-close-the-debate-on-jonathan-papelbon-right-now "But what would any team be getting? According to ESPN’s Jesse Rogers, “Papelbon had an 11.37 ERA in eight games after the All-Star break, but he has been very effective when used after some rest. With two days between his appearances, hitters are 1-for-13 against him this season. Less than two days’ rest, and he has been rocked.”

2012 post trade: 7 GS, 131 ERA+ 2013 injured: 8 GS, 69 ERA+ 2014: 20 GS, 121 ERA+ When he was healthy, he was very good for the Dodgers. W/L are a garbage stat for pitchers.

You are far more reasonable than you appear at first glance.

I don't think Hill will be back next year.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/2016/08/mike_hazen_red_sox_in_wait_and_see_mode_on_jonathan "Red Sox general manager Mike Hazen said he spoke to president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski Wednesday morning and there was no update on Jonathan Papelbon, who remains a free agent. "There’s no update as of right now," Hazen said midday in a radio interview on WEEI with Lou Merloni and Mike Mutnansky. "We’re just kind of in a wait-and-see (mode)." "This is a time of year where a manager has to ride guys in certain cases... you can just never have enough quality good bullpen guys." Hazen spoke of the dearth of options for improving a team once August arrives and trades can be made only if a player passes through waivers. As far as Pap's personality, Hazen noted, "When the game starts to ratchet up in intensity, you know I agree, sometimes a little crazy goes a long way." Hazen said the team has not held September call-up talks yet, but the early returns from Yoan Moncada at third base have been positive — when he's playing. Moncada has been out of the Double-A Portland lineup lately because of a left ankle sprain. "A little residual ankle soreness," Hazen said. "So far, so good (at third). I think he’s handed himself well. ... I do think it’s going to help him move faster." Verstaility and position switches have helped other Sox players move quickly in the past, Hazen emphasized."

I would have tried to trade Pedey for a #2 starter. My reasoning was: 1. The rotation was the greatest need. 2. The Sox had a lot of IF depth (especially when including Holt in the mix). 3. Pedroia tends to get injured every year and provides diminishing results. Pedroia has pleasantly surprised me this year because he is now not trying to hit a HR every time and is using all fields, his defense has rebounded from last year's nightmare of a season and he has yet to get injured so far. If he could stay healthy, I wouldn't move him at this point. I just think he's a ticking time bomb with the way he plays.

If you read enough of SNC, you'll see the whining too. I know he's not the main Price basher.

What does Tomase think about it? Back in 2013, he didn't want Papelbon back. If it's the same now, I'm back in. I go the opposite of whatever the prevailing opinion is by Tomase + Buckley + Cafardo.

What do the Nationals think? “He was a great teammate,” Baker told reporters. “He was popular with his teammates. We wish Pap the best and he wished us the best. He wanted us to win (the World Series). Those were his parting words.” Max Scherzer spoke for his teammates about the level of respect for Papelbon in their clubhouse. “He’s not a distraction whatsoever,” Scherzer said. “He comes in to play every single day, he works his absolute tail off and he competes on the mound for us. All that stuff, last year … just media circus. We were 100 percent behind him. We understood all his intentions. He was great for our team. He was great for everybody in this clubhouse. To sit here and say he’s a bad teammate or anything like that, it’s garbage to me.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/steve_buckley/2016/08/buckley_bad_idea_for_red_sox_to_bring_back_jonathan_papelbon Buckley says it's a bad idea. NOW I'M ONLY HALFWAY OUT AGAIN!

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/08/16/nick-cafardo-there-downside-adding-jonathan-papelbon/IpnAEJ3LIhGPY5oShductK/story.html Cafardo says there is no downside to Papelbon. I'M OUT!!!

If they sign him, I'll hold my nose the way the Yanks did with ARod and Chapman. But the FO knows far more than me so whatever they decide is best for business. Anyway, I thought Papelbon was going to announce his signing Wednesday AM? Well, we're waiting...

Beckett pitched well for the Dodgers down the stretch in 2012. He was fine for them while he was healthy.