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I agree on all fronts. There is NO CHANCE JD opts out.

The last thing I want to do is argue about Martin Freakin' Perez. He was brought in to be a perfectly serviceable 4/5. How that makes him untouchable in a trade is beyond me though. A 29 year old who never has been a 3 WAR player. I mean, he's quite the low risk/low reward guy. If you can manage him for 4 - 5 innings every 5 days, fine. It's not great. He's not an innings eater. Isn't his highest pitch total this season like 84? He's not a workhorse. That 4.54 FIP and 5.56 xFIP leads me to believe that there is some REGRESSION (not positive regression either) to come. I mean a .224 BABIP? That's 60 freakin' points better than he's ever seen before. Doesn't seem sustainable to me! BB% is at an all time high, but his WHIP is at an all time low. Are we to believe that the Red Sox have some sort of magical defense that is keeping his WHIP so low? That Kevin Pillah is somehow making that ERA look so good that we can no longer move him unless we completely fleece the other team in a deal?!?!? Really? Really!?!?!? His barrel percentage is the highest of his career! Does Martin Perez imbue these balls with magnetism for Red Sox gloves? Do we honestly think that a joker like no nothing Ron Roenicke is managing Martin Perez so well that he can outperform his peripherals? A pitcher with a decreased GB rate, an increased FB rate with an unsustainable HR/FB % sounds like a guy you are going to hitch up your carriage to? This is no clydesdale? This isn't even a show pony! This is some busted old ass hobby horse that has been scribbled on by generations and generations of ne'er-do-wells. His left on base % is higher than it has been in 7 years! His SIERA is 5.5frickin'3! Batters aren't even swinging at his garbage outside of the zone. You want to talk about smoke in mirrors! His o swing % is 24.8%. 75% of the time batters are not enticed to even swing at the slop he's throwing.

Heyman is NEVER to be trusted.

My dad is legally blind (has been since he was a child) and he's either adjusted the settings on his computer or has a program that does it for him that allows him to read normal sites. I'll ask him the next time I talk to him.

It's unsure how that will be handled.

His high k rate and huge hole in his swing have nothing to do with PEDs. There's just not a whole lot there. He's not great in the field. He doesn't run well. He just hits dingers. The only problem is that it's no longer a unique skill.

Sale was the second best pitcher in the league per fWAR for 2017 - 2018. You don't get that by giving up b level prospects. Not sure if he'll ever get back to being close to that guy, but he's a very hard worker and could at least finish his contract as a quality #2 like latter day Bret Saberhagen (i.e. 98-99). I do that same trade knowing what I do now. The only trade you really want to take back is the Travis Shaw/Dubon for NPC Reliever #2 (Thornburg).

Being in purgatory between the bottom 5 and the PO contenders is punished in baseball more than any other sport since after the top 5, the talent in the draft is a total crap shoot. Uh, they have the third worst record in all of MLB.

You can’t trade for anyone not in the player pool.

It did for Martin Perez.

Jon Heyman says there's a 20% chance Bogaerts is traded and 25% chance JD is dealt. Also mentions Martin Perez and Eovaldi as trade candidates.

Not sure about 1903. Rosters were set to 25 in 1910.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2020/08/boston-red-sox-prospect-jarren-duran-belts-fourth-homer-at-alternate-site-going-to-opposite-field-on-first-pitch-vs-dylan-covey.html Red Sox center field prospect Jarren Duran has showed power during simulated games at Boston’s alternate training site, Triple-A Pawtucket. The 23-year-old Duran belted his fourth home run on Thursday. The left-handed hitter went opposite field on the first pitch of the game thrown by right-handed pitcher Dylan Covey who has pitched 6 ⅓ innings for Boston this year. “He has been really exciting to watch really since spring training,” chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom said Wednesday. “You guys saw him in camp. That’s continued over to the alternate site. He’s made some great adjustments with his swing. He’s spent a lot of time working on his body from a physical standpoint. And that’s looked great.” https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2020/08/boston-red-sox-wont-rush-jarren-duran-to-majors-hes-made-some-great-adjustments-with-his-swing-hes-spent-a-lot-of-time-working-on-his-body.html If the Red Sox sell at the Aug. 31 trade deadline as expected, that doesn’t mean they’ll then promote all their top young prospects to evaluate them in the big leagues before the 2021 season. Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom insisted he won’t rush anyone, including center field prospect Jarren Duran, to the big leagues. Duran, a 23-year-old speedster, is a top internal candidate to take over longterm for Jackie Bradley Jr. who is eligible for free agency this coming offseason. Kevin Pillar also is a pending free agent. “We have to remember that even though this is a very different season, it’s a very different development environment, that we still need to make sure we are looking as honestly as we can at where guys are in their development and what is going to benefit them,” Bloom said Wednesday during a Zoom conference call. “My experience has been that sometimes the worst thing you can do — especially if you’re doing it because you’re unsatisfied with the on-field product at the big league level or you want to get a jolt — sometimes the worst thing you can do is to take shortcuts in a player’s development. That can lead to short-term results that are not what you want and it can also lead to some longterm difficulties. So I don’t want to single out any one player by saying that. Except to say with all the players over there and really with everybody in our organization, it’s something we need to keep in mind.”

Duran has 4 Hr's down in PAW. Seems like he may have a realistic shot of making the opening day roster next year.

That wuss Moyer couldn't even throw 240 innings! Bet he couldn't carry Hippo's Vaughn's jockstrap.

I was thinking this as well. What's the purpose of a 25 man roster in the 1920's if your starters are all going over 200 innings. Did rosters carry more positional players? Seems like there is less of a need for relievers back then. Some of the greatest all time relievers also weren't 1 inning guys like they are now. Maybe the active roster should be 28 guys?

Has it reduced his trade value in any capacity?

Were Niekro/Perry/Hough also throwing 90mph?

And if statistics show that a starter is less effective after the 2nd or 3rd time through the order, there's no reason to keep them out there just for them to throw innings. Are relievers better than they used to be? If you have millions and millions of dollars invested in a player, are you more likely to micromanage their health?

s Someone that desperately needs to work with a pitching coach isn't the type of guy that is coveted at the trade deadline.

In looking at some of those leaders: You think Koufax's career would have extended past age 30 if he didn't throw so many innings? Catfish Hunter saw a dramatic decrease in production after age 30. Lots of soft tossers like Niekro, Hough and Perry leading the league. You can't really succeed with that type of pitching anymore.

If only he didn't suck balls this year.

I'm not sure we'll know until Speier writes his next book. Bloom could be actively trying to move Perez. If a deal doesn't happen that doesn't mean he wanted to keep him around.

It was in response to "I wouldn't be inclined to move him." Why not trade a guy like Perez if the trade makes sense? There isn't some long term planning for Perez here. He's just another guy. The only reason you don't move him is if you are really concerned with Sale and ERod coming back. At that point, he's just a healthy body to throw innings. He's a 4th/5th starter.

Pedroia was athletic. The problem was that his "dirt dog" nature made him take unnecessary risks which would likely reduce the amount of games he'd play over the life of his career. However, that's not the reason his career ended. He didn't get taken out by a dirty slide because he's a dirt dog.