mvp 78
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I look forward to this year's postseason run.
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It was a very confusing 2 months.
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If Mayer continues his value in 2023, he becomes close to untouchable IMO.
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FA SP options for NEXT offseason Starting pitcher: Carlos Carrasco, Alex Cobb (club option), Yu Darvish, Jack Flaherty, Lucas Giolito, Sonny Gray, Clayton Kershaw, Lance Lynn (club option), Kenta Maeda, Tyler Mahle, Germán Márquez, Miles Mikolas, Frankie Montas, Jordan Montgomery, Charlie Morton (club option), Aaron Nola, Jake Odorizzi, Shohei Ohtani, Eduardo Rodriguez (opt-out), Hyun Jin Ryu, Max Scherzer (opt-out), Luis Severino, Blake Snell, Marcus Stroman (opt-out), Julio Urías, Alex Wood
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Setting the market isn't always a good idea. Even after they signed Manny the pushed him through waivers every season.
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There have been some abosolutely putrid offseasons in recent memory starting with the Hanley/Pablo debacle.
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An average rotation would be ranked 15th/16th. The Red Sox wouldn't be allowed to have an average rotation either. They were 18th last season and it was pretty ugly. Now consider what the bottom third of the rotations actually looked like in MLB... YUCK! There's just a sliding scale of expectations. What are the Sox allowed to have as a #1, #2, etc. Is a #5 on the Sox allowed to be an innings eater on relatively cheap money like Pivetta? Would a #4 for the Sox be a guy like Bello who is not quite ready but has the upside to be tremendous?
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He was cheap money. It seemed to only be a move to make room for Verdugo and Renfroe? At the time, nobody knew how all three guys would play OF at the same time as Beni and Verdugo weren't really fit for CF.
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No.
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I hope so. Maybe too much due diligence.
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I guess it sounds good? IDK if they are going to go large and long on a SS. They'll need to prove me wrong.
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I was not here prior to my start date. I remember the offseason the Sox signed John Lackey and there being a magazine trying to hype up the rotation now that Lackey was in it. Woof. He had his moments, but there were some lean years in there. Very reminiscent of my favorite part of Disneyland: Mr Toad's Wild Ride. I hope that Bloom is eventually afflicted with Motor Mania.
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I agree. However, they went over the lux tax last year and would in theory need to reset in 2024. Would they be able to do that with everyone still on payroll? I guess it depends on the deals they are signing this offseason? Maybe high dollar short term deals?
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I think that's what happened after we got to witness Roger from 86-92, Pedro from 98-03 and Sale from 17-18. It warps your expectations.
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I just don't see them signing 3 pitchers from this class. It doesn't seem worth it. If Kluber is there, they should just grab Eovaldi or Senga. I'm not sure they would grab both. If they did, it would push either Sale or Pivetta to the pen. Pivetta has just been a solid guy that can eat innings as a #5. Having Sale in the pen as a 20M+ arm coming off injury just doesn't make much sense when there are a few more years left to go on his deal. Bello is an automatic lock for the rotation. The only way they are bringing in a 3rd guy this offseason is if it's really a guy with ace upside via trade IMO. Rodon/Verlander/deGrom aren't coming here. It'd be a shocker to me.
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I'm not sure Senga is even an ace. He's a good pitcher, but probably just an Eovaldi replacement without the injury risk.
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It's a gamble just like any other season. I think even penciling Sale in for anything is a gamble. He was pretty shaky down the stretch in 2021 from what I remember. It's a "Wild Card Contending" rotation, I guess. If they went to the trade market and grabbed a younger ace it would make the rest of the rotation look a hell of a lot better. The problem is the tippity top of the rotation, not 2-5.
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Hard to take care of the ray tank in the winter.
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If they get Senga, they don't get Eovaldi IMO. It's one or the other. More likely they grab Eovaldi than Senga. Sale Kluber Eovaldi Bello Pivetta This pushes Paxton and Whitlock to the pen. I'd keep Crawford and Winckowski as swing men that can switch back and forth between starting and relieving. The problem I have with this rotation is that there really isn't anyone you can rely on to lead the staff. Without dealing for an ace via trade, I don't know where that guy would come from either unless Bello gets a rocket strapped to him this year (which I don't see).
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When a poster never actually makes a decision and just complains... Sad! The only time a700 liked and offseason was 2011.
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Kluber isn't a 4. 2022 Kluber would have been the #2 on the 2018 Red Sox.
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I've penciled him in for a few of my scenarios. It's fine with me.
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You wanted to give Wacha a QO. Kluber was a 3 fWAR guy last season.
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Ward and Wallace are at least close enough to provide value to the BOS bullpen. It's not like you are stashing Groome for another lost year or some of the other guys they have sat on for no real reason like Marcus Wilson.
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Not great!
