Dipre
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It was both. He lacked range at SS according to scouts, and the move to 2B fixed that. He had excellent minor league numbers, so "coaching at the major league level" had nothing to do with it. Pedroia's minor league numbers: .308/ .392/ .454 .846 OPS Massive difference in performance. I'd also like to see an example of a player who was deemed a backup in the minors then exploded upon reaching the Majors.
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I read the post. It simply makes no sense. The real concern about Pedroia was about the size of his swing, and how it would translate into hitting Major League pitching, it was a legit concern then, and it's still a legit concern now, as was his range (he was drafted as a SS) the Sox took the chance and moved him to second. This is not a case of a "bad scouting report" and even if it was a case, you're discounting the importance of a player's performance at the minor league level. Cervelli posted a .747 minor league OPS with minimal power (380 SLG%) so can you explain to me exactly how those numbers would translate to better production at the Major League level?
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That has no bearing on the current discussion. Many players went much lower than they should have in the draft, but skyrocketed in their respective systems as they began to show off their skillsets against organized competition. Pedroia is one of those cases. How that correlates to Cervelli's actual ability to hit as demonstrated by his minor league dossier is beyond me.
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Pedroia was consistently a top-10 Red Sox prospect, and a top-100 prospect. His hand-eye coordination is the stuff of legend, and he was expected to be exactly what he is, a gap hitter with outstanding contact and good on-base skills to go with outstanding defense. This argument holds no water.
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Then he would improve his overall numbers, and probably wouldn't be a backup catcher. It's really not about holes in swing or otherwise mechanical flaws. It's about ability and projection. There is nothing in his minor league dossier or scouting reports that suggest he'll be much more than a backup catcher due to his fantastic defensive abilities. Again. he is what he is. A good, mobile catch-and-release catcher who can't hit much.
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He had a .682 OPS last year. If you don't think he's going to have an OPS much above .700 (he probably won't unless it's an extreme SSS) but he's going to improve "because of coaching" then you're contradicting yourself. All the coaching in the world won't make you surpass your actual ability.
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It is. A player is what he is. This is not about "unfulfilled projection" in which case, you might have a point. Cervelli is projected as a backup catcher who's ceiling is a .700 OPS, and that's exactly what he is. You can't outperform your actual abilities, no matter the coaching you receive, because in that case, every pitcher who worked with Duncan would become a Cy Young winner, and that is clearly not the case.
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What do you want the 2010 lineup to look like?
Dipre replied to MANNYHOF24's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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That's not something you can substantiate. It's your opinion, but it's illogical and lacks a solid ground.
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A-ha! I knew it!
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Yes you did! Is that you, suns????
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The money spent on Chapman would not be detrimental to either keeping Papelbon or signing other premier FA's. I agree that thirty mill is way too much though. The real hang up is probably the type of contract. If he requires a ML contract that would impact the luxury tax right way, he's not going to be a Red Sox.
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Roberto Alomar Misses HOF election by 8 votes
Dipre replied to The_Destroyah's topic in Other Baseball
And Ferguson Jenkins as well, who he is statistically superior in a number of areas, and comparable in all the others. Main difference? W-L %. and 25 CG's. -
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Roberto Alomar Misses HOF election by 8 votes
Dipre replied to The_Destroyah's topic in Other Baseball
Bert Blyleven compared to other HOF pitchers: I'm going to take guys who won 300 games but had comparable stats. (Decided against it and went for Hunter) Bert Blyleven: 22 seasons, 287-250, 3.31 ERA, 118 ERA+, 4970 IP, 1.198 WHIP, 3,701 K's. Steve Carlton: 24 seasons, 329-244, 3.22 ERA, 115 ERA+, 4672 IP, 1.247 WHIP, 4,136 K's. If Carlton is in, Blyleven should be in. Catfish Hunter: 15 seasons, 224-166, 3.26 ERA, 104 ERA+, 3449 IP, 1.13 WHIP, 2012 K's. If Hunter is in, Blyleven should be in. When you take into account the era differences, the DH league, and the superiority of Blyleven compared to his peers, it seems fairly obvious to me that he's a hall of famer. This is strictly opinion though. -
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I will. I'll tell them exactly what i told you.
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They were 16/30 in UZR, but 18/30 in UZR/150, compare them to the 2008 club which ranked 4th in UZR, the 2007 club which ranked 9th, and it's easy to see a massive drop-off from recent clubs.
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Do you know what UZR actually does? It calculates the number of runs above or below average a player is. Being a cumulative number. When not used in a position-by-position basis, you risk having the actual value be sidetracked by having a couple of positions with high positive values "hiding" other positions with low value, just as it happens there. Cherry-pick and whine all you want, in this case, the total looks prettier than the sum of its parts. And it still doesn't account for the defensive deficiencies at C.
