Okay, with TheKilo's recent topic of the 2008 Hall of Fame Ballot list, I got an idea for a good discussion/game sorta deal.
If you had the power to remove three players from the Hall of Fame that you feel really shouldn't be there, and put three players in their place that have since retired and have lost a chance at the Hall of Fame. With no questions asked, all scandals aside, who would the 6 players be and why? Just thought it would be a good spark for discussion about who should be in the Hall and what not.
For me, here's the three I'd remove:
1. Gary Carter
Okay, aside from 11 time All-Star his numbers are exceptional, but there's been other players with that, if not better that haven't been inducted. Say what you will, but I just don't think he belongs. And he's got a career .262 average to boot.
2. Joe McGinnity
He was an exceptional pitcher, don't get me wrong. Be he lasted but 9 years in the show and has barely over 1,000Ks, now that's a feat in it's own, but not Hall of Fame material. But the Veteran's Committee of '46 thought otherwise.
3. Gabby Hartnett
Okay so he has the record for most consecutive games without an error (452). While that's impressive, I don't see where his other stats are. .297 BA is respectable, but he had just under 2,000 hits and other average stats. That's not saying catchers are suppose to be offensively strong, they're not, they're there for the defense. And while Hartnett is superior in the #2 spot, I just don't believe a single record should determine Hall of Fame.
Okay now that you've s*** a brick about those choices, here's who I'd like to see in.
1. Pete Rose
4,256 hits plus a .303 average. Enough said.
2. Fredd Lynn
If we're inducting people for records, then why NOT Lynn? Hit the first ever grand-slam in an All-Star game, 9 time All-Star, All-Star MVP, Batting Crown, ALCS MVP, Regular Season MVP and Rookie of the Year in the same season, and 4 Gold Gloves, Lynn was an all around hitter/player. I know I said to those I took out that it shouldn't be based on just awards, but when you have a lot, and a respectable set of stats, it's good enough for the Hall. I had the privilege of speaking to a realtive of Lynn's and we discussed how he should be in the Hall of Fame. I really think he belongs.
And honestly I cannot think of a third for now.
Anyway, s*** a brick, have a heart attack, eat a bag of muddy dicks and attack me for my opinion. Then when you're ready, post your changes.