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This post exemplifies that some take this stuff way to personal! We...you...more than figurative to be sure. Here's a better way to look at it....may the best team win, but if it is the Yankees, please enjoy your team's victory in the proper perspective.

nothing money can't fix. this from the guy who said go with the youth last year? It illustrates the financial advantage the Yankees hold. Duh. So you agree that there is absolutely no reason why this team should NOT win the WS and anything short will be an utter and abject failure?

I think it's a good move by the Yankees. As for Pettitte, he left some gauranteed money on the table by not accepting an earlier offer, but who knew the market would shift the way it has. Just like the average "Joe Citizen", who lives above his means, thinking he'll never lose his job or suffer financial distress, baseball players and their agents don't seem to ever consider that the market for players may change.

Generally Red Sox fans do not like the type of fan you're attemtping to describe....however, speaking on behalf of Sox fans, our distaste for that sort of fan is tempered by an understanding that much of their resentment for all things Yankee is a direct result of the childish and belittling treatment they've received by arrogant, egotistical, bandwagon Yankee fans. I grew up in the New Haven area...pretty much the Mason-Dixon line between Sox and Yankee fans. My neighborhood was about 60% Sox fans/40% Yankee fans. The Yankee fans were ruthless...we were subjected to constant ball-breaking by "fans" who usually couldn't name 5 players on any seasons squad. As a result, some Sox fans have built up a serious dislike for Yankee fans. Personally? The more I hear a Yankee fan chirp...you know, the Buckner stuff, Bucky Dent, 26 to 7, all that garbage...the more I laugh and the more it confirms that some fans just have no f***ing life, especially since their own sense of value is derived by what other men accomplish on the field of play. So while I understand why some Sox fans really get worked up about Yankee fans and their "dominance", I agree with you, there's no reason for the bitterness if they'd just step back and realize what many of those Yankee "fans" really stand for.

MaArk "I don't want to talk about the past" McGwire's brother spills the beans on his bro's 'roid and HGH use. Of course Mark will either say he doesn't want to talk about the past or will say it's just his brother's attempt to make some money...but it confirms what I think realists have known all along: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3851381

Warner's Games started by year: 1998 1 1999 16 2000 11 2001 16 2002 6 2003 1 2004 9 2005 10 2006 5 2007 11 2008 16 Let's exclude 1998 when he had yet to make a name for himself. In the 10 years from 1999-2008 he started 101 games...that's and average of 10 games per season. 10 games per season over 10 years? A HOF QB who has started only 63% of the games played by his team throughout his career? I agree with those here who say he needs a SB win AND 2-3 very impressive years (even if it's more or less padding his stats) before he gets considered for Canton.

Below is a lost of Modern Era Quarterbacks in the HOF: Troy Aikman 1989-2000 George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 Len Dawson 1957-1975 John Elway 1983-1998 Dan Fouts 1973-1987 Otto Graham 1946-1955 Bob Griese 1967-1980 Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 Bobby Layne 1948-1962 Dan Marino 1983-1999 Joe Montana 1979-1994 Warren Moon 1984-2000 Joe Namath 1965-1977 Bart Starr 1956-1971 Roger Staubach 1969-1979 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960 Bob Waterfield 1945-1952 Steve Young 1985-1999 At a glance of the list, Warner doesn't strike me as belonging with these guys, but I haven't looked real close to their stats and post-season success.

to some extent, yup, that's true. IMO, I don't care what the f*ck Pete Rose bet on...he should be in the baseball HOF. It's not like he did something really egregious, like killing someone or having sex with Rosie O'Donnell.

Sure. Let's say he goes in the tank again next year and the year after and fizzles out. IMO, he's not got the overall credentials that qualify him for the HOF. With that said, let me say that I rarely pay much attention to who is in any sports hall of fame and who isn't...just really doesn't matter much to me. With the criteria being relatively subjective, I'd prefer to value players in my own mind, based upon my own eyes and any other variables (STATS, ETC.) that I think are important. I think it is partiicularly difficult to fully measure NFL player's worth, given their performance is often so closely tied to their teammates and coaches.

Whatever it takes? It takes one thing...money. If he wants him he gets him, period.

I don't think the fact that this FO drafted Paps has any bearing on their desire to keep him...it's his performance that drives their desire to retain him.

Must admit, if this thread was never created I'd have never thought of Warner as a HOF candidate, period. IMO he doesn't get in unless he puts up 2 or 3 more stellar seasons with a couple of deep post season runs.

Ok, so take away Belicheck and the Pats offensive coordinator(s), and key members of the pats front line and receiving corps and where does that leave Brady? You can apply this concept to any QB. Their stats and regular season and post season success are impacted by a miriad of variables, including their coaching, the system they play in, the talent level of their teammates, team chemistry, the relative strength of their opponents and their own innate ability.

Not sure what your point is, as I had said "who can win without players around them?" and then gave examples of players who've won multiple titles because of great supporting casts and coaching, a player who won despite his lack of ability because he had a true TEAM and his coaches did an outstanding job, a player who only one even though he is considered great but his teams/coaches haven't been consistently great and a player who never won because, despite his ability, his teams sucked.

Now yesterday looked like the B's of the Thornton days...grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Wheeler had a great look at an open net in the closing moments, he's got to bury that shot. All in all, they just got outworked and despite being more talented than St. Louis, the Blues hard work paid off. Brad Boyes...big deal, could have been anyone, doesn't fkn matter, and maybe this helps him forget about his -23 +/- rating for the season.

They're pretty fkn good. Ovechkin is possibly the best offensive player in the game, plus he's not afraid to be physical...he's like Iginla when he first came into the league, only a little more explosive. Semin is a stud. And they have one of the best offensive-minded D-men in Green. But I think the real reason for their success is similar to the B's...they've developed some depth and they have guys buying into their system. The key for them, IMO, will not only be whether that depth holds up but even more important how their goaltending holds up.

There was an equally dangerous hit on a Raven player earlier in the game. It came on a block, with the Pittsburgh player coming back toward the line of scrimmage and he delivered an absolute head-to-head, missile-type block, leaving the Ravens player's head scrambled. The announcers never said a work about that one and I hear no one talking about it now.

I haven't come away from any Habs game thinking Komisarek was cheap. I'll watch more closely but my impression is that he's fairly hard-nosed and a little bit of an antagonizer too. He likes to chirp, he likes to bump after the whistle and such...but I don't recall hiom being dirty. Don't like him, but that's a different story.

Pete Carroll bitter...and he hardly even knew her!

With Cabrera playing 1B, then Young's Average annual salary of $16m puts him in the two-hole.

MLB TRade Rumors reports Young has taken back his trade request and agreed to play 3B. After signing for $80m over 5 years back in 2007, I imagine he'll be one of the highest paid 3B in baseball...maybe #2 behind ARod?

I'll be very interested in seeing if there is any fallout. On the one hand, Teixeira scored a big deal, Lowe did damn well for himself, bu Manny and Tek are in limbo. Doesn't Boras also represent Garret Anderson and I-Rod? Haven't heard of much interest in those guys.

I'm a big Lucic fan...but his presence simply means he woulda played his game and Komisarek would of played his game...as they do every time the teams play one another. Sure Lucic would have drilled Komi, nothing new...but to say that Komisarek wouldn't have been as physical as he usually is is just incorrect.