TheKilo
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Oh no, there's definitely some kind of debate here. But when people say "Beckett was clearly better" or "Beckett got snubbed", it's not accurate. It's a toss-up, but the fact that he threw 40 more innings and was better in terms of WARP, Win Shares, and VORP...I really find it tough to make a convincing case for Beckett. At least, in comparison to Sabathia.
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Celts look OK, not great. Lead by 11 after 3.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3108696
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Can you really discount the fact that Sabathia pitched 240 innings, or roughly 20% of Beckett's total? Really??
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3108321
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That wasn't my point. I'll ignore the wins because it's entirely a team dependent statistic, but what if Sabathia had Papelbon closing for him instead of 5.00+ ERA Borowski? RE: The playoffs, I was making a point to TW101 who said performances in the playoffs should be included. Sabathia threw 40 more innings than Beckett...you can't tell me it doesn't have a factor with the way he pitched (control issues, etc.). Sabathia was the better pitcher during the regular season. Period.
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If you want to cherry pick stats, we can do so. [table]Pitcher|Wins|IP|K/9|K/BB|BAA|ERA|WHIP|CG|WARP3|Pitching Win Shares|VORP Beckett|20|200.2|8.7|4.85|.245|3.27|1.14|1|8.6|18.6|58.6 Sabathia|19|241|7.8|5.65|.259|3.21|1.14|4|9.5|23.7|65.2[/table]
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The vote takes place once the regular season ends.
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That's not the rules so debating this fact is an exercise in futility.
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Voting: http://www.baseballwriters.org/awards/2007/2007_AL_cy.html [table]Pitcher|1st|2nd|3rd|Total Sabathia|19|8|0|119 Beckett|8|14|4|86 Lackey|1|5|16|36 Carmona|0|1|4|7 Bedard|0|0|1|1 Hallady|0|0|1|1 Santana|0|0|1|1 Verlander|0|0|1|1[/table]
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071113&content_id=2299400&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb Sabathia wins it.
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http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img10468998.jpg
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Meh...they beat KSU who was ranked IIRC, and won big games at Colorado (where Oklahoma lost) and Texas A&M. What happens if they beat Mizzou and OU though....do they play for the NC?
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Would you give him 4x15?
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Lloyd Carr retiring, sources say. http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/
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The Beckett Deal Revisited (or is it The Ramirez Deal?)
TheKilo replied to BoSox21's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I gotta say...I don't agree with JHB on this exact matter but he's very articulate and raises points I hadn't considered. This is some of the best discussion I've read in a while. Unfortunately, he's being attacked for his use of stats and not being responded to in the same articulate manner. A shame, really. -
I dunno. Lowell would be an idiot to not at least see whatever offers come about. If he wants to stay in Boston, and the 3x12 offer isn't that much different than anything else out there...he'll stay. If he sees something like 4x15 or even a 5 year deal, he'll probably take it.
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Looking for a running back, nothing superstar caliber but a good solid player. Open to discussions... I'm McLovin'
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Rotoworld
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Union worried Selig, teams might collude to keep A-Rod's price down
TheKilo replied to He Hate Me's topic in Other Baseball