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  1. a700hitter
    I think the guy still has plenty left in the tank. He is a step slower, but he still has a lot to offer. The sox still have the $ they saved on Pedro, Damon and Renteria to reallocate.
  2. a700hitter
    I agree that the FO should not spend money foolishly. $24 million for Jared Wright who has won more than 5 games only once since 1999 is pure foolishness, but investing in a great like Pedro would not be foolish. You can never gauge these things perfectly, but when guys have a successful track record like Damon and especially Pedro you take a chance that they stay healthy and won't go into a steep decline. Guys like that don't grow on trees or in farm systems either. A guy like Pedro comes around once in a generation. If you get stuck with one year of his contract at the end, he probably was more than worth it for the other three years. We could get stuck with Tek being in decline in 2 more years. This is very common for catchers in their mid-30's. Plus, Tek is not an all-time great like Pedro, but he is a big part of the team's heart and you don't cut out the heart. What makes you guys think that the FO guessed right giving Tek 4 years, but would have guessed wrong giving giving Pedro or Damon 4 years?
  3. a700hitter
    I agree that it is a nice crop. It took a lot of hard work and research to put it together, and we will be lucky if one nor two of them develop into All-Stars. It's really difficult to develop All-Stars, which is why you don't let them walk away.
  4. a700hitter
    It(i.e., a Dynasty) never happens when you let your stars walk away. I am actually not hard to please. I can live on the memories of 2004 for a long time, because I waited soooo long. I also know bad personell moves when I see them. You guys can yak yak yak all that stuff about a strong farm, the future, budgets, etc. All I know, is that the 2005 team would have been better with Pedro and Lowe, and we would be better in 2006 with Pedro, Lowe and Damon. ... and we'd still have our prospects. Lighten up guys, I can be a fan without agreeing with management or analyzing moves like I am a virtual gm with a budget. Screw Luchinno and the twins. Give Theo a checkbook and let him get us some players.
  5. a700hitter
    I am still not excited.
  6. a700hitter
    Look me up when that happens.
  7. a700hitter
    It would be plausible, if the Sox made an effort to get Griffey.
  8. a700hitter
    No disagreement, but I am not all excited about the acquisition.
  9. a700hitter
    You asked for suggestions.
  10. a700hitter
    The Angels and the Marlins were one -year wonders, which is what the red Sox turned out to be.
  11. a700hitter
    Go get Griffey. Play him two years in CF then move him to a part-time corner and DH.
  12. a700hitter
    Your theory does not hold water as far as a being a proven method of success. You saw the two lists- homegrown vs. imported. The Yankee problem has been poor balance. Too much hitting and not enough talent on the mound. It has nothing to do with homegrown talent. They still have that.
  13. a700hitter
    Bichette, Saberhagen, Nomo and Cone were in their prime? Pull the stats and look for yourself.
  14. a700hitter
    The following key players from the most recent Yankee Dynasty were not home grown: 1.Tino 2.Knoblauch 3.Brosius 4.O'Neil 5.Cone 6.Clemens 7.Wells 8.Chili Davis 9.El Duque 10. Nelson 11. Stanton 12. Boggs 13. Girardi 14.Curtis 15. Strawberry 16. Gooden 17. david Justice 18. Denny Neagle 19. Cecil Fielder 20. Jimmy key 21. John Wetteland 22. Tim raines 23. Sierra The following key players were homegrown: 1. Jeter 2. Posada 3. Bernie 4. Mo 5. Pettitte (left after '03) 6. Mendoza (left after '03) Most of the homegrown guys are still with them, while they are winning nothing. Almost all of the imported top talent is gone. Tell me again why it is important to grow your own talent.
  15. a700hitter
    I think we can agree to disagree, but I think 26 to 6 might back me up that this philosophy has not been very successful. Getting top ML talent has proven to be the better winning formula. This long-term approach is nothing new, and it is not unique to this ownership group. I have been hearing this tune for more than 30 years. They sang the same song when they let the '75-'78 team fall apart. That ownership group had a much smaller economic base than this ownership group, which makes today's FO somewhat more disappointing.
  16. a700hitter
    I am afraid that you have been drinking the FO kool aid. Management in sports is and always has been full of BS. They screamed about salaries when they had the reserve clause. They screamed that free agency would wreck the game financially. Yeah right. Keeping Pedro and Damon would have made the 2005 and 2006 teams stronger, and "in the long run" management is full of BS. If you would start to think like a fan, you would realize these nerdy suits in the FO are screwing up your favorite past-time--- watching winning Red Sox baseball. Instead they subject you to Matt Clement and now Willie Harris when you should be watching Pedro and Damon. Anyway, enjoy Clement and Harris and Stern. I can't.
  17. a700hitter
    There is a difference between being a smart fan and a smart businessman. The smart businessman can accurately assess the financial risk/reward of a transaction. The "smart fan" knows the good players. Pedro/Lowe are better than Wells/Clement any time. Unless you are a GM , or you own a piece of the Sox, I am puzzled at why you apply a financial analysis to these player moves instead of analyzing whether it improves your team. The Sox got the dough. They are not a small market team. An additional $ 2-3 million/year for Damon and the risk that Pedro would crap out in his 4th year would not devastate this billion dollar franchise.
  18. a700hitter
    That tradeoff was not a wash, regardless of stats. We have no way of knowing Pedro/Lowe's 2005 stats if they had stayed with the sox. Pedro/Lowe are better. The 2005 team was weaker for letting them leave. I watch the team year- to- year. I don't run the team or share in their profits, so the long term means very little to me. I find little comfort in the hope that they are building a solid foundation for the future as I am watching Clement consistently miss his target by a foot or more against a bad team in September when Pedro could have started that game. But that's just me.
  19. a700hitter
    I understand their position. I happen to disagree with the approach. The White Sox have kept all of their key components. They didn't let the heart of their team walk away (konerko), and a good 1B is easier to find that a HOF pitcher or a leadoff CF.
  20. a700hitter
    "Rant"? Why must you resort to such an abbrasive term? The important part of my post was the following: I tried to not be abbrassive in my response, but to be blunt any numbers comparison between Pedro/Lowe and Wells/Clement is pointless and ridiculous. Any manager takes Pedro/Lowe. It's a slam dunk.
  21. a700hitter
    Not! Pedro and Lowe were pitching for poor teams, neither of which made the playoffs. Let's not forget that they left behind an offense that scored over 900 runs for a record-breaking third straight year. Wells got pretty good run support. What was the run support for the others? If you asked any manager to take one of these two duos for one year, I think they would be unanimous in taking Pedro and Lowe over Wells and Clement. That would not even be close.
  22. a700hitter
    Let's not forget that it is Marte + $11 million.
  23. a700hitter
    It's their club, they don't have to earn the right to do anything, but you don't replace Pedro. Pedro + Lowe for Wells + Clement is not a wash.
  24. a700hitter
    The trade had been agreed upon, but Nevin invoked his "no-trade" clause.
  25. a700hitter
    There is a difference between rebuilding the core and breaking it down. The Sox broke down the core without replacing those guys with comparable players, so 2005 was too soon. Now that they have dismantled the core by letting Damon go, it is too late to ask the question. The team has been dismantled, but prior to having suitable replacements. Some would view their actions as unnecessarily premature.
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