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Red Sox 2012/2013 Offseason Thread
a700hitter replied to SoxFanForsyth's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I don't think that Niese will be enough to fix our pitching. -
If it works for them for 3 years, we get to suffer for 3 years, and by that time other high price players will come off the Yankee payroll and they will reload. I never hope that the Yankees get a player like Hamilton.
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I am betting that the Yankees get Hamilton. They are letting Swisher walk. The LFer Gardner is a low cost guy. I think they will add the marquee slugger who should hit 50 HRs in that band box.
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Thanks RSFL.
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Thank you for your concern. My immediate family made it through Sandy ok. We lost cable,phone and internet for about 5 days, but we had heat and electricity. The roads and mass transit have been a mess, and I was unable to get to work the first week. Overall, we were very, very lucky. Other members of my family were not so lucky. My brother was without power for 13 days. He just got power back yesterday. He and my Sister in Law stayed at my house for the last week. We were in very cramped quarters, because we had undertaken a home improvement project before the storm arrived and most of our furniture is piled in 3 rooms and the other rooms are empty. Very little living space is left. My wife's cousin lost his home in Long Beach, and he, his wife and daughter may be arriving soon to stay for a considerable length of time. Things have been really crazy. Thanks for asking. I hope that everyone else came through Sandy safe and sound.
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With the Angels glut at 1B and the OF, I don't think Trumbo should be so expensive, but I think the Angels would be looking to get pitching. We really don't have much in that department.
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Vizquel's motivation is irrelevant. He brought up something that everyone around the league had noticed over the last 2 years. It's not like he was spreading a rumor. The Jay's ran the bases like idiots. I am still not sure what Farrell denied-- that Vizquel made the statements or that the team didn't run like idiots? I don't know how he can deny either.
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In a heart beat.
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The magnitude of the fail correctly suggests IMO that the Red Sox is a very sick organization with lots of problems. It is not as simple as the roster or the farm or the coaches or the GM or Lucchino. It is all of these obvious things plus more.
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I don't know if people understand the magnitude of 2012's failure. It was not merely a bad year. In the 80 seasons since Tom Yawkey first purchased the Red Sox, they had a lower winning percentage in only 3 other seasons-- one being 1933 the first year Yawkey owned the team. 2012 was epic fail, not just a bad season.
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It would be hard to do worse. Merely doing better will not be a complete vindication.
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2012 did not happen in a vacuum. As I said earlier, a lot of fail culminated in the 2012 season. The three years plus leading up to 2012 were replete with one bad decision after another. The culmination of that was 2012. If you give them a pass on 2012, you are giving them a pass on everything leading up to it. I hope the FO is not as forgiving as you are.
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:thumbdown
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I wasn't making a direct comparison to the owners that preceded the cuirrent owners. In fact, I acknowledged that the Sox had been run by many idiots prior to current ownership. If you couple the fact that we have been run by many idiots before John Henry with the fact that the 2012 team had the highest payroll in team history, it makes the accomplishment of finishing last with the worst record in almost 50 years even more ignominious.
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Bobby Valentine agrees ro deal to become Red Sox Manager
a700hitter replied to MatParker116's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Once the big trade was made and the Sox accelerated their death spriarl. It was pretty obvious after the one aborted comeback attempt that Ortiz was not trying to get back on the field. There was no point to him coming back at that point and risking further injury. Ortiz didn't quit on the team. The FO threw in the towel and rightly so. I don't understand all the hubub over V's statement seems to be a fairly obvious fact. -
Vizquel is a borderline Hall of Fame player who played the game the right way. He was never a troublemaker, so his comments and critcism make me sit up and take notice. In addition to the base running, the Jays teams were fundamentally unsound in all aspects.
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What do you mean that Farrell "denied any merit to the Vizquel comments this year"? Vizquel made the comments, and he didn't deny them or back off them. You asked me upon what I based my opinion of the Jays reckless base running. I told you that my observations from many Jays games were concurred with by at least 2 sets of announcers and Vizquel. It's your prerogative to disagree with me, but I think you have known me long enough to know that I would have a pretty solid basis for making the statement.
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Worst Red Sox record in almost 50 years with Henry at the helm. That's a fact. There wasn't one fact in your posts. That is par for the course.
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Yeah, you put me in my place. Such a jackass.
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I stated pure facts, and you come back with pure insults. Very typical for the forums biggest longest tenured troll.
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He was an idiot then and proving himself to be an idiot now by running the Red Sox into the ground. A lot of fail had to go into putting together the worst record in almost 50 years. A lot of idiots have run the team in the last 50 years, but the 2012 team topped them all.
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Let's get one thing off the table. I have no like or dislike of John Farrell. I liked Farrell as our pitching coach. I watched a lot of Jays games over the last two seasons and observed many of these poor decisions. Their base running was consistently reckless. I have heard the Yankee announcers and Sox announcers question the way the Jays executed their running game. Also, Omar Vizquel openly questioned/criticized the coaching with regard to the running game. That is a powerful indictment. Hopefully, Farrrell will not continue the same approach with the Red Sox. Hopefully, he will instill fundamentals. Like or dislike of Farrell is not an issue. Claiming that he was "the best manager currently under contract" as posted earlier by another poster just seems to me to be a huge overstatement.
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They very often ran themselves out of innings, making 1st or 3rd outs at 3rd base or at home with less than 2 outs. That's not aggressiveness. It's poor fundamentals.
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Henry was one of the idiots that ran that organization.
