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I wouldn't call it a panic, but, face it guys, both Red Sox and Yankee fans are worried about Schilling and Johnson. Curt did not look particularly sharp last night and needs to start changing speeds more often. An effective splitter that drops out of sight would also help. I don't know about Johnson because I am a Red Sox fan, but I would guess he has had a hard time making adjustments so far this year. I still maintain that whichever team gets the more effective pitching this year is the team that's going to win. I think it will be our team but it is no slam dunk. We need Curt, Josh, Tim and Matt to step up and carry the main load. A fifth starter would also help; I think a trade is a possibility for that item.
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By the time I was a junior in college my baseball career was finished. Yes, you put your best outfielder in CF, no argument there. I'm just telling you it is the easiest to play on the levels I played on. In college and pros it could be more difficult but the judging of the balls hit your way are still the same except for the velocity of how they are hit. By that time, though, if you are still playing that position you are also a lot better than you were in high school.
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Thank you Beck; I have been saying that all along and I really believe some of our colleagues on this board who might never have played in the outfield doubted what we are saying. You said it all. Not only is it the easiest of the OF positions to play, but you can get by with an average arm if you get a good jump on the ball and can charge balls hit in the outfield. :thumbsup:
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SCM, the thing that worried me about Wily Mo was his high strikeout totals and real lack of progress toward eliminating this problem in the eight years of pro ball experience he had before the Red Sox traded for him. When he played against us last summer he looked absolutely horrid, striking out seven times in ten at bats and looking lost out in RF. His improvement has been remarkable and I only hope that he keeps this up and not regresses. He does havethe advantage of Papa Jack, Manny and Big Papi to help him along and watch his back. So far so good.
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Jsing, I don't know how much baseball you played as a youngster, but if you did I think you know that playing CF is actually the easiest to play. I played that position for three years during the time I was a pretty good lefthanded life drive hitter. When the competition got tougher as I got old older there were CF's who were better than I was and I had to play the other two spots some of the time. LF was terrible; hard to play. RF was a little easier, but I was a left handed thrower so maybe that's the reason.
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SCM, no checking necessary. Since when do Red Sox fans doubt each other? That's for Yankee fans. Well, good show. You had it wired all along. Me? I had real doubts but I would rather be wrong as see him do well rather than be right and watch him parade endlessly back to the dugout after striking out. I just keep my fingers crossed that this is the start of a great career with him on our team and not a mirage.
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Crespo, Pena has been a most pleasant surprise. It is amazing how quickly he has learned to be more patient at the plate and how Papa Jack's tutoring has changed him almost overnight. I saw this guy last year. Man, the guy stunk to high heaven. He swing at everything and anything. The change has been amazing. One word of caution, though. He has a lot of trouble playing right field for some reason and that is going to take some time. I can see him moving to left when Manny leaves and Coco moving to right when Jacoby Ellsbury takes over in CF in two or three years.
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Hitman, yes, he is a good CF. I've told a number of people here and on other boards that as a former CF when I played as a youngster, I have always felt that CF was the easiest position in the OF to play. You have to cover more ground but you see the ball off the bat a lot better and that makes you get a better jump on the ball. I hated to play LF later in my career and I could take or leave RF.
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SCM, come on. You didn't really say that when the trade was made. Did you? I mean he looked absolutely crappy when he first got to the Red Sox, swinging at balls in the dirt, over his head and behind him. Well, if you did, you are in the wrong profession. Hire yourself out as a roving coach with some ML team.
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Monsterman and SCM, count me in for an apology to Wily Mo as well. He has been a very pleasant surprise and has made tremendous progress under the tutelege of Papa Jack and the TLC of Ortiz and Ramirez. On Baseball Tonight I just saw what he looked like in Cincy last year, swinging wildly at everything and striking out in droves while looking absolutely crappy with the bat. He looks totally different. His new found plate discipline has astounded me. We might have walked into a real good thing with the man.
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You know Riverman, I think you are obsessed by the Red Sox---and I like that. It is high time you Yankee fans started worrying about us. For the longest time you snickered at Red Sox fans as rubes and the team as chronic underachievers and losers. No longer my friend. We know we can hold our own against your Yankees and I think you understand that very well, even though you wished it was like it was in the "old days". Screw the old days. However, I like conversing with you so keep in touch.
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Riverman, no, not a good thing to throw all those pitches, but he will get the number down and be back in good shape as the season goes along. For Curt, it is location, location, location, and being able to get his split finger fastball over. Then again, we both could have something to worry about. Randy Johnson hasn't exactly been a ball of fire so far while Mike Mussina has. I'll bet most Yankee fans expected the opposite. On our side we also are concerned about Matt Clement. The guy has dynamite stuff but for some reason he seems to find a way to be just mediocre. As far as our two teams are concerned, we have to stay tuned.
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Well MTB, are we in the same boat then? Can you even tell me why ESPN would do such a thing and ring in the Yankee highlights of the past? Sure you can and so can Hammer, One Red Seat and the whole lot of us. Simple really. They are pro-Yankee. Did you see Ortiz' fourth game homer in that ALCS montage? Did you see Foulke strike out Tony what's his name to end game six? Did you Pokey make the final play in game seven? You saw none of that, and let me let you in on a little secret. You won't see on ESPN now or never. What more proof do we need? :D :D :harhar: :harhar:
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Hammer, right on the money. We need a fifth starter in the worst way and let no one tell you anything to the contrary, but you might have hit upon something when you hinted at a fourth starter. I cannot fathom what it is with Clement that keeps him halfway in the toilet. Maybe that knock he took last year is still ringing in his mind. Others have had similar mishaps and have come back. Could it be that he lacks toughness? The guys has great stuff and is frustrating to see him noodling his way to another mediocre season.
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Riverman, what you say may contain an element of truth but please don't try and tell me that Joe Morgan and that other clown that was teamed up with him on those two broadcasts did not have a Yankee bias. They certainly did. As for the Yankees being big news when they lose, ESPN isn't stupid. They know that most of the country is anti-Yankee and they play to their audience. Besides, the Yankees usually win and they have their tradition and record behind them so it is special with a lot of people when they fail and ESPN wants to milk it for the benefit of those fans to despise the Yankees. As for that cable's bias against the Red Sox, it is ingrained and has been for quite some time. I noticed when they gave the highlights of the two Red Sox wins it was like over and out and that's that. Sorry, I still maintain that ESPN and what passes for their announcers are pro-Yankee. My opinion.
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MTB, just think of what you said. YES seems more open minded about the opposition than ESPN is when someone is playing the Yankees. Why should that be? I cannot get over the feeling the Yankees are the darlings of ESPN--pure and simple. They didn't seem none to happy when the Red Sox came from behind Thursday to beat their darling Yankees, I would bet. I only saw snippets of the game, though I saw the Red Sox score their last three runs. I saw most of the game on Wednesday and the bias of Joe Morgan was absolutely sickening, and that other clown, the guy who love to make games out of people's names, should stick with football because he is a pathetic baseball analyst. Well at least we wound up happier than ESPN did since we took the series.
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Schill, your take on why Harris was in the lineup was the company line manufactured by Francona, but thank you for not buying into it. We both know that matchups become less effective as the talent level of players changes and while Mussina has gotten much better this year, Harris, on the other hand, wouldn't hit well in a Little League. I would be hopeful that his pitiful performance last night would mean the end of him ever starting in CF for our team I thought this two weeks ago, too, and that didn't stop Francona from trying this again. It is now in Theo's court. He has to lay it on the line to our hairbrained manager that Harris is on the team for def. purposes and pinch running only and that he didn't get Pena for him to sit on the bench in such an important series.
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Guys, we all seem to agree with the idea that Harris in the lineup last night was a stupid move. That is my whole point. Why in hell would Francona hand the Yankees eight easy outs in a big game? Good game or not, Gonzales looked like himself last night and will no doubt descend once again into the worthless out he was before. To compound that with putting a guy now hitting 095 in the starting lineup, well, how embarrassing can that be for Red Sox fans---to go from a hard hitting 300+ hitter like Johnny Damon to a worthless bum like Willie Harris? You talk about a comedown. At least Pena has shown he can hit and has won a lot of us over to his side with his hard work and improvement. What improvement have we seen in Harris. The guy doesn't even belong in the Big Leagues and we have to stomach seeing him in our starting lineup?
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Don has always like to poke fun at himself and that is why I fell for that hook line and sinker. Ever watch the Red Sox on NESN? I get their feed on MLB.Com and they are always bantering back and forth with each giving themselves and each other the needle. I thought it was great that Don would come on here to post; of course, I was taken for a ride on that one. Tell you this, though. I would rather hear them than Joe Morgan or Rick Sutcliffe or any of those other ESPN pro-Yankee goons. They act like they are on the Yankee payroll because their bias is so transparent it fools no one.
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700, I'm still unbelieving that Francona would do such a thing. Hopefully we get back in the groove tomorrow and win the rubber game.
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Yano, I hope you are talking about Hillenbrand's jersey and not Choi's. If you were talking about Hee Seop Choi's uni, take my advice and either burn it or wear it when you go to a comedy club. -
Crespo, taunted for being fooled by some jerk who picked up a handle of an announcer who posts on two boards? Anyone who taunts me for that is a jerk. Since I haven't thought of you as such I will just pass off what you said as an error in judgment, and I would think you and the rest of us here would be more concerned about how our team is doing and why our half-ass manager benched a 300+ hitter for one now hitting under 100.Got an answer for that? It ought to be your main consideration right about now, or doesn't it bother you that the MFY beat us tonight 7-3?
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Willie Mo Pena has looked so good at the plate that Francona the idiot benched him tonight for Willie Harris, a 118 hitter before the game started. Harris went 0 for 4, did not get the ball out of the infield and is now hitting under 100. Now you tell me, does a team that wants to win play a guy in CF that can't even hit 100, has no power, and can't even draw a walk now and then. Pena is hitting over 300 and is benched? Francona might pass muster with some of you here but on UpontheMonster he is credited with being the moron that he is.
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Riverman, ask Jeter if Pena has enough range to play in Yankee Stadium. In fact, I'll ask you. See the game last night? See the play in the 8th inning? Enough range for you or are you both inclined to be a Melky man?
