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Gagne has been all over the map and I would not dismiss the Giants being interested. Their closer Benitez sucks to high heaven, and what better way to get back at the Dodgers than taking their former Cy Young winner. If Eric is anything like he once was before his injuries started piling up he just might be what they need. Still, I am a little skeptical right now.

Rave, you could be right on this, but if Boras also blows this he will be mud in Japan and Daisuke could lose a lot of face going back to a team that would rather have the $51 million than him. If Matsu really wants to come here he could tell Boras he wants to sigjn period and back off, or he can fire the guy and get a new agent. Either way, it is Boras who is holding things up and it is about time someone besides Ken Williams has stood up to this money grubbing bum.

Boras wants to milk this for all he's worth and it does look like this is going down to the wire. It's getting to be a contest where someone is going to blink first but I cannot vision Matsuzaka heading back to Japan and toiling there for two more years. He would also lose face and the fact is his team does NOT want him back. They want that $51 million. I also think that if Daisuke doesn't sign the Japanese are going to be a little pissed off at Boras. Too bad we can't just shitcan all association with that guy. The White Sox will not do business with that guy. If anyone on that team signs with him they are soon out of Chicago and quick.:dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

Vinny, the point is you should know a little about the background of your team. A real fan does root for one team, but can follow another one if they play in a different league. And calling me a clown is no way to get on this board and get along with people.

True Bosox, but one would think that a fan of a certain team would know something about the team he roots for. Red Sox fans know their baseball, they know their team and they know much of their history. Dodger fans used to be that way---in Brooklyn. Out here they come in the third inning and leave in the seventh and in between they do nothing but get up and go to the hot dog stand and eat. Ever see a game at Dodger Stadium? It looks like an extention of the freeways out here. Guys passing left and right. For the record, I do support the Dodgers in the NL and will buy a mini-season package of tickets, but the Red Sox, that's my true love.

The feeling is mutual my friend, and I look forward to posting on this site for a long time. Now let's get Matsu signed and get that closer and we can get ready for the Yankees, and maybe take on Moose's Dodgers if they also make it to the WS. Of course, we will kick their collective behinds. :D :D

Well OK Moose, enjoy the game and root the Kings home to victory. I like the Ducks myself when I do follow hockey. Besides, it is raining like hell here in Arcadia and I decided to not go out for my Saturday tacos. I just had to unload; been carrying a lot of angst against that board and guys on it for a long time. Anyway, if you ever have a question about the Giants and Dodgers and their rivalry or want to know who took the season series any of the years from 1941 on I will be glad to help you out. No, no encyclodedia. I really do have a good memory for things long gone by, but ask me what I had for dinner three nights ago and I will tell you to get lost; haven't a clue.

Coco, just remember this. Red Sox fans are a helluva lot more knowledgeable about theire team than LA Dodger fans could ever be. It is amazing just how dumb they are about their own team's history. I gave Moose a question about two of the greatest LA Dodger pitchers in history and against the team he purports to hate the most and all he could say was don't quiz him. So I felt sorry for the sad and sorry creature and gave him the answer. Glad you're enjoying all this. You know, I had a real bad time on that board; not so bad when they got on me, but calling my wife a whore and my daughter even worse showed what kind of low lifers they were, and while I revel at being on this board with some great Red Sox fans, if a Dodger fan on this board tries to get nasty with me I promise that guy I won't hesitate. Have a great Sunday, my friend.

All right Moose, since you apparently don't know s*** from shinola about the question I'll not only give you the answer, but tell you an extra tidbit that it you can store it in your brain amd you might actually know a little more than your dickwad friends on Dodger Blues, not that it would take much effort there. Koufax 17-11------Drysdale 34-31. Got that? Now, listen good. Koufax's last victory over the Giants came on August 26, 1966 at Candlestick Park. He beat them 6-0. Bob Bolin, the Giants pitcher, started off like a house afire and k'd, I think five of the first six Dodgers before Johnny Roseboro hit a two run homer off him. Hey, here's some more for you. The next day, Marichal beat Drysdale (ok I forgot the score). Then on Sunday, Don Sutton defeated Gaylord Perry, 5-2. (Aug 28). Drysdale's last victory over the Giants also came at Candlestick Park on Wednesday, June 26. He beat them 2-1 and struck out Jimmy Davenport for the last out. And don't give me any s*** that " you looked it up, you looked it up" Buillshit!!! I once told you I had a photographic memory and your shithook friends gave me a tough time. Try looking those scores I gave you. You can't. No, my "friend", they are in my storehouse in by baseball brain. Besides, you're a young man. What the hell are you doing home on a Saturday night? Get your ass up and get out and have some fun. I'm a happily married man who is dog sitting tonight while my lovely wife (you and those craphook friends of yours should be so lucky) is baby sitting our grandaughter. Here' another freebee for you. On August 3, 1980, Don Sutton defeated the Giants, 8-1 at Dodger Stadium and set the new all time Dodger strikeout record. Oh yes, his "pal" Steve Garvey hit a three run homer in the first inning to get him going. Now if you ever want any info on the Giants-Dodger rivalry you only have to be nice and ask me. If it happened between 1941-to the present I can tell you. Easily. And, to think, all those years from '58 to 05 I wasn't even a Dodger fan. Or maybe, deep down inside I might have been. Ever thought of that?

Well I can see that you and I are going to butt heads along the way, but this time I'm with the majority so you can laugh all you like, but your ******* friends are still gone and I'm the one laughing now. Amazing, a Dodger fan on a Red Sox board, but at least they are treating you with more dignity and respect than I was accorded on that shithole website. It would have also been nice if many of them has known something about the team they loved to damn much, and when I tried to correct them in their numerous errors they got personal with me and my family. I wonder if you know any more. Well here goes ace, let's see if the Dodger fan knows something about his team Quiz, Koufax and Drysdale's lifetime record against the Giants. You can even look it up if you like, but, as I tried to tell them dumb bastards, I have a photographic memory and know it by heart. I'll wait for your answer and even give it to you if you need it.

Riverside my friend, all I want to hear from you is that Boras is going to Boston with him and they are going to talk serious turkey. Have you heard anything of that sort? Time is flying by pretty fast. We need to get that guy signed so we can then concentrate is trading for a closer, that is, if one is still available when all the tumult and shouting dies over the Japanese ace.

I hope you are laughing at your Dodger Blues buddies who got their asses run off this website. Anyway, they added nothing to it in the first place, but tell me, are you both a Red Sox and Dodgers fan? According to those guys over there you can't root for two teams even if one is way more important than the other. When I told them months ago that I was going to follow the Dodgers in the NL (for the first time since they left Brooklyn by the way), they made it sound like I had kidnapped the Lindbergh baby even though I was rooting like hell for the Dodgers before they were born. Anyway, I'd appreciate a reply.

The days are dwindling down to a precious few and it looks like an 11th hour decision will be at hand for Daisuke. I wish it weren't so but knowing Boras' MO it looks like that to me. I'm told Matsuzaka is in LA today and wonder if some of the Red Sox brass is out here to head him off at the pass. It would be nice to pick up the paper tomorrow morning and see that we inked him Saturday night over dinner at Benny Hana's but maybe I should save the miracles for next October just in case one is forthcoming.

Riverside, yes, it is early and we have plenty of time to make hay and get what we need, and you hit it head on with Okajima. He looks like he could be our No. 1 setup man. Everything I hear about the guy is very positive and he ought to do well. Now where we disagree a little (actually a lot) is hinting that our friend Jackson is a troll. Jackson is a stand-up guy from where I sit and I know I'm going to get the inside scoop about all the Red Sox warts from him. Sometimes we need a reality check and I know for a fact that we still have some work to do if we are to make ourselves happy by next October and our friend Jackson disappointed. Simple at that. :D :D

It seems some of us are getting a little antsy about the Matsuzaka talks and one even hinted that I might be getting a little paranoid about the while thing. Hell, some of my friends are even offering me viagra trying to keep me in check. Well, I don't need that YET but I need Daisuke signed and a closer in Red Sox livery so at least I can dream of somehow getting scalper tickets for a WS game or two at Fenway next year. It's tough enough to win in the tough AL but we have to get our ducks all in a row and Matsu and a closer are those ducks holding that row up.

PNU, I have something you may like if you haven't already heard of it. It is called sfgiantsdugout.com It is a Giants website and there are some damn good baseball people there. Just in case you download and get on there, which I would recommend, if you see a guy named SeaBeachFred there, it isn't me. A Dodger Blue guy who I made peace with called Garcia 213 took. I suppose it is a kind of flattery. Anyway, I have a different handle on that board. If you ever E-Mail me or send me a private message I will let you know what it is. But don't leave here, though. The more you post on this board the more you will like it. And I guess you have to like the fact that Bonds will break the record in the uniform of your beloved team. I might even be willing to buy a ticket or two from you to see the Giants and Dodgers up in their new ballpark if you would be willing to sell me one if I take a trip up there. Stay in touch and have a great weekend. Again, welcome aboard.