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Thanks RSF3 for the update. Good to get some solid info instead of the smart ass remarks I got from Rice. It does get very old with all our injuries; we've had too damn many of them the past few years and to me something is very wrong somewhere. Maybe out luck changes when we get these guys back. Thanks again.

Come on guys, why are so many of you holding on with your finger nails insisting we are going to be ok with Bard. He threw another pig of a game today---too many walks and too many pitches. The guy is not a starter and though many of you insist he will be ok in that role when it's all said and done, I take a different tack and have since the start of the season. He is NOT a starting pitcher. He belongs in the pen and sooner or later that's where he'll end up because if Cherington insists that he stay in the rotation the end result will not be pleasant for us. He has really shown us little in the way of consistency, control and ability of getting batters out on a consistent basis.

After suffering with McDonald until he did us all a favor and went on the DL, Nava is like a breath of fresh air. I do agree with MVP that we should see down the road if he can keep this up, though I wouldn't say the end of June. If this keeps up for the next two weeks it looks like he may have cracked the code this time around. Remember, he started strong two years ago and then faded like a pair of old jeans. This time around he may have a stronger reign on the Red Sox. Let's just hope he can keep hitting and getting on base.

Speaking of food for thought UN, you have this talent for taking corn and potatoes and suddenly changing it to tomatoes and spinach. You never addressed by comments about the pitching angle but came out of left field about a post that I penned a ways back and amplified what others were saying as well. Just keep in mind that when I went on my one month self imposed sabbatical you were up front and clear that if things didn't turn around you would be as loud as anyone in taking the front office to task. At last glance we haven't gotten above 500, are still in the basement and you're still singing the praises of our inept front office. You are showing your true colors my friend and still hewing the party line, but you are right about one thing.....I have little use for those running the team and even less for the GM who I'm convinced is in over his head. Get the stars out of your eyes User and take a swig of reality. Cherington's ineptness and piss poor reading of our pitching in the off season is the reason why we are sniffing the butts of four other teams in our division.

And I hated him playing in Boston because he was a total three year bum with the bat. When we have to think of him and now stuck with Darling Darnell McDogshit for God knows how much longer I am all for putting A-Gon in the outfield and Papi on first and calling up Lavarnway to DH. Lin cannot hit, Coco cannot hit and lost his job in KC and Oakland so he is still a bum and McDonald can't do anything. Here's hoping Sweeney gets back and how the hell much longer is it going to be before tin man Ellsbury gets his paper mache ass back in the lineup?

I thought we'd be lucky to win one game in Philly and instead took the series. It was a very pleasant surprise Pumpsie and the rest of you guys and gals. Now the real challenge. We go to Baltimore to play the fast improving and red hot Orioles who swept us in our back yard a little ways back and we send out our 3-4-and 5 starters against them. If we are going to make any kind of move at all we have to win at least two of those games, but keep in mind Daniel BarF is going to pitch in one of them. Our starting pitching has to step up, the bullpen must keep doing the job and the hitters have to produce. I would say let's make turnabout a fair play and do to them what they did to us in our park, but I also know this Red Sox team. One game and hopefully one win at a time and can Nervous Nelly Buchholz deliver one tomorrow? It would be dandy if he could.

Whoopty freakin' do!!!!! He's thrown 6.1 scoreless innings so far this year. What a helluva long sample that is. Tell me about his work last season when he had eight or nine times as many innings and he stunk to high heaven. As I did with your pal over on the bush board, we can make a nice wager as to if BarF becomes a solid ML pitcher this year----say, maybe $500.00 dollars if he wins more than ten or 12 games, finishes over 500 and has an ERA under 4.50. He thought the same as you do about another player but wouldn't take the bet, just as you won't do. Just watch BarF pitch with your own eyes, watch his pitiful mechanics and how he almost is aiming the ball and letting up and hit pitches. Do that and stop spouting the front office party line. You're getting to sound like your fellow countryman CP who was demonstrated to know as much about baseball as you would on the head of a pin and still have enough room for the US Constitution. You're smarter than that. Just see for yourself how pathetic he is as a starter. This Wednesday you will see all you have to see. AND HE IS NOT GETTING BETTER; HE'S EITHER STAGNATING OR GOING BACKWARDS. Bob, he belongs in the bullpen.

This argument could go on until the next decade Pumpsie but a simple fact is that BarF is NOT a starting pitcher, never was an effective one and never will be one. The stupidity of Cheringpuke on his matters boggles the imagination of how someone could be so berift in common sense. Bard is a good reliever, that is his forte. BarF is a miserable starting pitcher and should be sent back to the bullpen where he belongs. He is not going to get himself straightened out in my opinion because he is in a role that is not a good fit for him. And, please, enough with those of you who still insist the front office knows what its doing. It doesn't and the BarF problem demonstrates this completely. Look, I'll open myself up to censure if he goes out there on Wednesday and knocks the Orioles off their feet, but chances are we are going to still be arguing about the merits of this guy as a starter. I just believe strongly t hat is not where he belongs.:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown

I don't know everyone is getting so high and emotional on Dice K's return. He is still the same jackass who nibbles his way to four or five innings and a high pitch count and little to show for it. Let him take as long as he wants and then get him the hell out of the country once and for all. As for Ross and Sweeney it seems we are just star crossed in this injury department. We seem to go down like flies and don't count on Youkilis coming back and playing for any long period of time. He is physically falling apart by the day and we need only remember the Mike Lowell saga when all those rumors about trading him went up in smoke because he wasn't healthy and or the Red Sox simply would not take on any part of the contract they were trading away. Hence we had a clog in the lineup and a ring around the rosie batting order those late days in 2010. It could be the same with Youkilis if the Sox refuse to eat part of that contract. The front office of ours---what a fu@@ed up group.

This was a very good win tonight guys and gals. We could have let last night's loss act like a bone in our throat but we came out swinging tonight and when the game got close we added insurance runs to help put the game away. I wish Doubie would have shown better control but he did outpitch Moore and we needed him and the team to come through. Again good win---we all go to bed happy tonight. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I think the jury is out on that one oreilly. When Prune Face Henry bought the team along with his two cohorts they seemed intent on putting the best team on the field they could. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams---Two World Series Titles in their first six years, but since our last one in 2007 it seems like this group has lost interest in the team. What's more, they have made more than their share of personnel disasters, poor FA signings, and inept people in critical jobs. This is only my opinion mind you but there has developed some real antipathy towards Red Sox ownership the last few years and I would advise you and your friends in England to keep a wary eye on those people now running your team.

One very inconvenient truth some of my colleagues here refuse to admit or acknowledge is that until the Red Sox can learn to come from behind to win games their status is going to stay in the outhouse. Sure the starting pitching must gather momentum and start doing its job, but good teams can rally from deficits when the occasion demands. The Red Sox cannot because they haven't done this all season and during their collapse last September it was a similar story. Needless to say, too, that Adrian Gonzales needs to start contributing to the offense--which he hasn't. A win tonight makes last night's loss look like a hiccup to otherwise a team's May comeback. Another loss could very well mean t he team is ready to go back in the tank, a place is has become very familiar with since last fall. It must not happen. :dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno:

First we're farting around with Middlebrooks and planning on sending him down to Pawtucket for some more "damn seasoning" that he doesn't need and now we are still playing games with Ryan Lsvarnway who is ready to be called up to take over at catcher from one whose defense has not improved very much at all. Why the Red Sox keep making these same mistakes over and over again speaks volumes to the stupidity of the front office. Somehow they've lost their sense of perspective. When Pedroia was ready he was brought up, when Ellsbury was ready he was brought up...same with Papelbon and Lester. Youkilis a little late to be honest about it. I don't want to see this happen to Middlebrooks and Lavarnway. Those two along with Ryan Kalish (when he's ready) should be put in that lineup and kept there. If we decide not to resign Papi next year and use the money from him and other expiring contracts to get pitching, then fine, we can DH Ryan and catch Jarrod if he can improve his defense and OBA. However, from what I've seen of our inability to ever come back from a deficit and pull out a win, which we haven't done once this year, this is not a championship caliber team and if this keeps up for another month or two the front office has to cut the ******** and start rebuilding with some of our young and talented players. Of course, a long winning streak or a series of good winning streaks might change that thought but I haven't seen any of that yet from this club and, therefore, we should start thinking of the future.

A slight correction SoxSport. His problem came when he went on an intense weight lifting program, one NOT designed for baseball players. He got musclebound and stiff, lost his flexibiity and bat speed and became a real dud at the plate. A great team player and a guy you wanted at your side if things got dicey in a game where a fight could break out, but nothing in the way of a hitter.