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No, its called objective, and not many Sox fans are. They are homers. You rip a player or the team and get blasted even when its clear they are not playing well. Like a700 said, when you rip a player, people take it personal.

For the last 2 years, every time I have been critical of ANY player on the RedSox I am/was attacked. Well you know something? For the last 2 years, this team has been absolutely miserable to watch. Even worse? Going to a game and seeing a guy catch a game winning home run in the monster seats of the opposing team and cheering. Who the f*** sings Sweet Caroline at a RedSox game after Bard/Papelbon just had a potentially catastrophic meltdown? Everyone on this board wants to get into pissing contests about how some obscure Saber statistic is the be all end all of stats, so therefore.....player X does not suck. You know what I call that? Excuses. God knows there is nothing better that the RedSox are at than excuses. This is the same club that blamed inter-league play and the official league DH rules as to why they lost to the Pittsburgh f***ing Pirates. f*** the stats, this team started 2-10 and are now 5-15 in September. In the old days, when real Sox fans cared about this team and was not considered Red Sox "nation" we would be tearing into this team. Not anymore. Too many stat geeks who jumped on the bandwagon in 2004 when Bellhorn was having a sabermetric's wet dream of a season, told everyone that the old school Sox fans were wrong. The f***ing media doesnt even tear in to this team anymore, they dont want to ruin their relationship/partnership. I am so sick of seeing some dude in the press box promoting his company or talking about how generous John Henry, Larry Luchino and Tom Werner are while the Redsox are getting their asses kicked This team sucks. They have no heart. Tito was a great manager when he had all those gritty players around him, but that was only because those guys cared about the game and they were damn good at the game. They didnt give a s*** what Tito said or the fact he was a "players manager" (aka a soft manager who gets walked on by his players)..they cared about the tradition of the franchise and what winning meant to this city. You want to know what Tito was before he had all those "dirt dogs"? He was a soft manager who got walked on in Philadelphia. Those players owned him in PHI which is why he was on the street looking for a job before he came to Boston. This team, this organization....they arent the Boston Red Sox. Its just a bunch of guys wearing the uniform who are filling in and making Werner/Henry/Lucchino money. The Redsox are only a cash cow to those guys. Minus Youk and Pedroia, if any of them were true members of this proud organization, they would never allow this s*** to happen for 2 straight years. They should be ashamed, but they arent...they dont give a f***, and its pretty clear. Instead of being angry with the fellow members of this board for having opinions like mine, how about you get angry at the organization that has played this way for the last 2 years?

Theo on Lackey's outing tonight, "I thought he had pretty good stuff tonight" I dont f***ing get it and I am sick of Tito defending Lackey and his other under-performing players. Pretty good stuff? 8 f***ing earned runs Tito, were you watching the same game?

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Yeah, I dont think so. Thomas has been one of the best over the last 4 years.

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thats our future closer, how dare you!

lol redsox

thanks for contributing nothing.

Dont you know if you criticize him you will get massacred around here? What are you thinking?

I recently bought every single monday night raw episode from 1993-2000. Love watching old wrestling. I also have every episode of Nitro ever, and every ECW Pay Per view (the real ECW, not the WWE crap).

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=nolan+ryan+autographed+baseball&_sacat=See-All-Categories Not as much as youd think. There is no way to prove the signature is from 1973 and I am not sure the year he signed it makes a difference because in the end, a signature is a signature. I collect cards (older ones) and other hobby sets, and this is what I will tell you....... It does not matter what a price guide says its worth, because in the end, its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If Beckett or Tuff Stuff say that baseball is worth 300 dollars, but you try to sell it on ebay.....and the highest bidder is 120 dollars and other similar items are going for 100-150 dollars.....then in reality, its not worth 300 dollars, because nobody is willing to pay that. Ebay is actually a great way of gauging value. Look for similar items to the ones you have and what people are offering for them.

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Lets see how damaged his arm is. From what I understand, many pitchers dont come back from his injury. Way too early to tell.

EDIT: deleted my post, I mis-read other posts in the thread.