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I agree. I don't understand why he even made the roster given Wake is out.

NFL Point Spreads For Week 5 - 10/7 - 10/8, 2007 Spread Category Date & Time ..... Favorite ................... Spread .................... Underdog 10/7 1:00 ET At New Orleans .....................-3 ...........................Carolina 10/7 1:00 ET Jacksonville .........................-2.5 ..........................At Kansas City 10/7 1:00 ET At Washington..................... -3.5 ..........................Detroit 10/7 1:00 ET At Tennessee ......................-8.5 ..........................Atlanta 10/7 1:00 ET At Houston ..........................-5.5 ..........................Miami 10/7 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh ........................-6 ............................Seattle 10/7 1:00 ET At New England ...................-16 ...........................Cleveland 10/7 1:00 ET Arizona ..............................-3.5 ...........................At St. Louis 10/7 1:00 ET At NY Giants .......................-3.5 ...........................NY Jets 10/7 4:05 ET At Indianapolis ....................-10 ...........................Tampa Bay 10/7 4:15 ET At Denver ............................-1 ............................San Diego 10/7 4:15 ET Baltimore ............................-3 ............................At San Francisco 10/7 8:15 ET At Green Bay....................... -3 ............................Chicago Monday Night Football Point Spread 10/8 8:30 ET Dallas .................................-10 ..........................At Buffalo Straight Category Date & Time ..... Favorite .................................................. . Underdog 10/7 1:00 ET At New Orleans .................................................. ..Carolina 10/7 1:00 ET Jacksonville .................................................. ........At Kansas City 10/7 1:00 ET At Washington........................................ ...............Detroit 10/7 1:00 ET At Tennessee .................................................. .....Atlanta 10/7 1:00 ET At Houston .................................................. .........Miami 10/7 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh .................................................. ......Seattle 10/7 1:00 ET At New England .................................................. ..Cleveland 10/7 1:00 ET Arizona .................................................. ..............At St. Louis 10/7 1:00 ET At NY Giants .................................................. .......NY Jets 10/7 4:05 ET At Indianapolis .................................................. ...Tampa Bay 10/7 4:15 ET At Denver .................................................. ..........San Diego 10/7 4:15 ET Baltimore .................................................. ...........At San Francisco 10/7 8:15 ET At Green Bay............................................... ..........Chicago Monday Night Football Point Spread 10/8 8:30 ET Dallas .................................................. ................At Buffalo Monday Night Football Total Points Scored ................................ 45

There are 2 separate questions. There needs to be a roster move, as well as a starting rotation move. Z isn't starting. Who leaves the rotation? Wake? On paper, that's my vote but having Wakefield come in from the pen causes other problems. Change the whole battery?

Do any FM stations carry the Sox? I'm stuck in work and discovered that my mp3 player gets FM. I should have thrown it at the wall earlier! Must have hit a button. I Google'd a bit, but only found Springfield, which is too far away. Someone here would know better than Google anyway

I agree about the guts, but again, question the motive. Do you think the FO was saying to themselves, this move and we make the playoffs? For example, when Cashman got Abreu, what was your reaction? When we traded Nomar, did you feel the same way? I'll argue they wanted to fill a few holes on the cheap. I was kicked out of many a bar in 2003 for screaming that Ortiz & Mueller should play full time. They finally did, but playing time doesn't lie. They were originally never seen as starters, let alone the key guys to get us into the post season. Yup, and a good one. It woke me out of hibernation.

IMHO, those "finishing touches" in 2004 were not intended to win it all. I'm not saying the players didn't intend to, I'm talking about the FO. I feel that they were throwing in the towel. I know that is exactly how I felt when I heard about the Nomar deal. Picking up Ortiz et al for "chump change" wasn't because we knew something that nobody else did about those players. The FO got lucky. If we didn't win it all in 2004, would anyone think the FO was ever any good?

Perhaps Henry is out of money because of NASCAR ;-)

I agree with the consensus posted so far. I just want to add that if the Sox are not in the hunt before the deadline, expect Shilling to be traded to someone in the hunt.

What a great one! I (foolishly) thought we were limited to baseball! Wasn't his nickname "babyface"? (It's been a while since I heard that name.) Ken Dryden is tops for me in Hockey. He refused to play for the B's and killed us in the playoffs each year we met. He was a great goaltender, but against the B's, he wasn't human. Dryden is a lawyer, which is another reason to hate him. His political career also leads me to believe that he is a commie too

The first people that instantly come to mind, from my teen years, scare me. They both died suddenly. Both are Yankees (surprise!) Thurman Munson and Billy Martin. I was a big Fisk fan back then. Inside the Yanks/Sox rivaly was another, Fisk/Munson rivalry. Those two went head to head in every department. As for Martin, I just couldn't stand him as a manager.

Not to mention what Nettles did to Bill Lee in that brawl. Spaceman was never the same after that. IMO, it ended his career.

NFL Playoff Game Dates 1/13 - 1/14, 2007 Date & Time Favorite .................... Spread ....................... Underdog 1/13 4:30 ET At Baltimore ................. .. -4 ............................ Indianapolis 1/13 8:00 ET At New Orleans ............... -5 ............................ Philadelphia 1/14 1:00 ET At Chicago ...................... -9 ................................... Seattle 1/14 4:30 ET At San Diego ................... -5 .......................... New England

Wild Card Week NFL Football - NFL Playoff Game Dates 1/6 - 1/7, 2007 Date & Time Favorite ............. Spread ................ Underdog 1/6 4:30 ET At Indianapolis .......... -6.5 ...................... Kansas City 1/6 8:00 ET At Seattle .................. -3 ............................... Dallas 1/7 1:00 ET At New England ......... -9 .............................. NY Jets 1/7 4:30 ET At Philadelphia .......... -6.5 ......................... NY Giants

Week Seventeen NFL Football - NFL Game Dates 12/30 - 12/31, 2006 Spread Category : Date & Time Favorite .................. Spread ........................ Underdog 12/30 8:00 ET NY Giants .................... -2 ..................... At Washington 12/31 1:00 ET At Cincinnati ............... -6 ............................ Pittsburgh 12/31 1:00 ET At Dallas ................... -12 ................................ Detroit 12/31 1:00 ET At Houston ................ -3.5 ........................... Cleveland 12/31 1:00 ET At Kansas City ........... -2.5 ........................ Jacksonville 12/31 1:00 ET St. Louis .................... -2 ........................ At Minnesota 12/31 1:00 ET At New Orleans .......... -3 ............................... Carolina 12/31 1:00 ET At NY Jets ............... -12.5 ............................. Oakland 12/31 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay ........... -3.5 ............................... Seattle 12/31 1:00 ET At Tennessee ............ -3 ........................ New England 12/31 4:15 ET At Philadelphia ......... -7.5 ............................... Atlanta 12/31 4:15 ET At Denver ................ -11 ...................... San Francisco 12/31 4:15 ET At San Diego .......... -13.5 .............................. Arizona 12/31 4:15 ET At Baltimore .............. -9 ................................ Buffalo 12/31 4:15 ET At Indianapolis .......... -9 .................................. Miami Sunday Night Football : 12/31 8:15 ET At Chicago .............. -2.5 ........................... Green Bay Straight Category : Date & Time Favorite .................................................. .. Underdog 12/30 8:00 ET NY Giants ............................................. At Washington 12/31 1:00 ET At Cincinnati ............................................... Pittsburgh 12/31 1:00 ET At Dallas .................................................. ....... Detroit 12/31 1:00 ET At Houston .................................................. Cleveland 12/31 1:00 ET At Kansas City .......................................... Jacksonville 12/31 1:00 ET St. Louis ................................................ At Minnesota 12/31 1:00 ET At New Orleans ............................................. Carolina 12/31 1:00 ET At NY Jets .................................................. ... Oakland 12/31 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay ................................................. Seattle 12/31 1:00 ET At Tennessee ......................................... New England 12/31 4:15 ET At Philadelphia ................................................ Atlanta 12/31 4:15 ET At Denver ............................................. San Francisco 12/31 4:15 ET At San Diego ................................................. Arizona 12/31 4:15 ET At Baltimore .................................................. . Buffalo 12/31 4:15 ET At Indianapolis ................................................. Miami Sunday Night Football : 12/31 8:15 ET At Chicago ................................................. Green Bay Sunday Night Football Total Points Scored : ................._ 40

Week Sixteen NFL Football - NFL Game Dates 12/21 - 12/25,2006 Spread Category : Date & Time Favorite.................... Spread ......................... Underdog 12/21 8:00 ET At Green Bay................ -3.5 .............................Minnesota 12/23 8:00 ET Kansas City.................. -6.5 ............................At Oakland 12/24 1:00 ET At Buffalo ....................-4.5 .............................Tennessee 12/24 1:00 ET At NY Giants ...................-3 ..........................New Orleans 12/24 1:00 ET At Atlanta ......................-6 .................................Carolina 12/24 1:00 ET At St. Louis ..................-2.5 ...........................Washington 12/24 1:00 ET Indianapolis ...................-9 .............................At Houston 12/24 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh .................-3 ................................Baltimore 12/24 1:00 ET At Cleveland ..................-3 .............................Tampa Bay 12/24 1:00 ET Chicago ......................-4.5 ...............................At Detroit 12/24 1:00 ET At Jacksonville .............-2.5 ..........................New England 12/24 4:05 ET At San Francisco ............-4 ..................................Arizona 12/24 4:15 ET At Denver ......................-3 ...............................Cincinnati 12/24 4:15 ET San Diego .....................-5 ...............................At Seattle Monday Night Football Point Spread 12/25 5:00 ET At Dallas ......................-7 .............................Philadelphia 12/25 8:30 ET At Miami ......................-2 ....................................NY Jets Straight Category : Date & Time Favorite.......................................... ............ Underdog 12/21 8:00 ET At Green Bay............................................... ......Minnesota 12/23 8:00 ET Kansas City.............................................. ........At Oakland 12/24 1:00 ET At Buffalo .................................................. ......Tennessee 12/24 1:00 ET At NY Giants .................................................N ew Orleans 12/24 1:00 ET At Atlanta .................................................. .........Carolina 12/24 1:00 ET At St. Louis .................................................. ..Washington 12/24 1:00 ET Indianapolis .................................................. ...At Houston 12/24 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh .................................................. ....Baltimore 12/24 1:00 ET At Cleveland .................................................. ..Tampa Bay 12/24 1:00 ET Chicago .................................................. ..........At Detroit 12/24 1:00 ET At Jacksonville ..............................................New England 12/24 4:05 ET At San Francisco .................................................. Arizona 12/24 4:15 ET At Denver .................................................. .......Cincinnati 12/24 4:15 ET San Diego .................................................. ......At Seattle Monday Night Football Point Spread 12/25 5:00 ET At Dallas .................................................. .....Philadelphia 12/25 8:30 ET At Miami .................................................. ............NY Jets Monday Night Football Total Points Scored : Use the Dallas / Philadelphia game.......................... __55

I predict that he'll donate the $$$ to charity so as to avoid what you suggest. Otherwise, I agree, he will look bad. I do not think this is about money for him. Yahoo didn't pay for use of the IP and should be made to stop.

It's moved again. Use http://www.patsfans.com and there is a link to the current one. If DNS has done its thing, the link may not even be needed anymore, I haven't checked yet today.

Week 15 - NFL Game Dates 12/14 - 12/18, 2006 Spread Category : Date & Time Favorite..................Spread.................. ..Underdog 12/14 8:00 ET At Seattle...................-10......................San Francisco 12/16 8:00 ET Dallas..........................-3............................At Atlanta 12/17 1:00 ET At Minnesota................-3................................NY Jets 12/17 1:00 ET At Baltimore..............-11.5...........................Cleveland 12/17 1:00 ET At New England..........-11...............................Houston 12/17 1:00 ET At Buffalo....................-1..................................Miami 12/17 1:00 ET Pittsburgh..................-2.5..........................At Carolina 12/17 1:00 ET At New Orleans..........-9.5.........................Washington 12/17 1:00 ET Jacksonville................-3.5......................At Tennessee 12/17 1:00 ET At Chicago................-13.5.........................Tampa Bay 12/17 1:00 ET At Green Bay...............-5.................................Detroit 12/17 4:15 ET At NY Giants...............-5.5........................Philadelphia 12/17 4:05 ET Denver.......................-2.5..........................At Arizona 12/17 4:15 ET At Oakland..................-1...............................St. Louis 12/17 8:15 ET At San Diego..............-8.5.........................Kansas City Monday Night Football Point Spread 12/18 8:30 ET At Indianapolis............-3.5..........................Cincinnati Straight Category : Date & Time Favorite.......................................... ......Underdog 12/14 8:00 ET At Seattle........................................... ...San Francisco 12/16 8:00 ET Dallas............................................ .............At Atlanta 12/17 1:00 ET At Minnesota......................................... ..........NY Jets 12/17 1:00 ET At Baltimore......................................... .......Cleveland 12/17 1:00 ET At New England........................................... ...Houston 12/17 1:00 ET At Buffalo........................................... ..............Miami 12/17 1:00 ET Pittsburgh........................................ .........At Carolina 12/17 1:00 ET At New Orleans........................................Washington 12/17 1:00 ET Jacksonville...................................... .....At Tennessee 12/17 1:00 ET At Chicago........................................... .....Tampa Bay 12/17 1:00 ET At Green Bay............................................... ....Detroit 12/17 4:15 ET At NY Giants............................................ .Philadelphia 12/17 4:05 ET Denver............................................ ...........At Arizona 12/17 4:15 ET At Oakland........................................... .........St. Louis 12/17 8:15 ET At San Diego............................................. Kansas City Monday Night Football 12/18 8:30 ET At Indianapolis...................................... ......Cincinnati Monday Night Football Total Points Scored :................_____50___

Wrong Bruins.

Agreed. They are at least fun to watch now. They don't have to win every game, but as long as they at least "show up" there is entertainment value.

MLB: (AL) Red Sox (NL) Cubs - I like my misery in both leagues. NHL: B's NFL: Patriots (Steelers back in the Franco Harris days) NBA: Celtics NCAAB: Louisville & UConn

Week Fourteen NFL Football Spread - NFL Game Dates 12/7 - 12/11, 2006 Spread Category : Date & Time Favorite ................ Spread .................... Underdog 12/7 8:00 ET At Pittsburgh............... -7.5 ........................... Cleveland 12/10 1:00 ET At Kansas City.............. -3 ........................... Baltimore 12/10 1:00 ET Atlanta ....................... -3 ..................... At Tampa Bay 12/10 1:00 ET At Detroit ................. -2.5 .......................... Minnesota 12/10 1:00 ET At Houston ............... -1.5 ......................... Tennessee 12/10 1:00 ET At Carolina ............... -3.5 ........................... NY Giants 12/10 1:00 ET Indianapolis .............. -1.5 .................... At Jacksonville 12/10 1:00 ET At Washington .......... -1.5 ........................ Philadelphia 12/10 1:00 ET At Cincinnati .............. -11 ............................. Oakland 12/10 1:00 ET New England ............. -3.5 ........................... At Miami 12/10 4:05 ET At San Francisco .......... -5 .......................... Green Bay 12/10 4:05 ET Seattle ..................... -3.5 .......................... At Arizona 12/10 4:15 ET At San Diego ............. -7.5 .............................. Denver 12/10 4:15 ET At NY Jets ................... -4 ............................... Buffalo 12/10 8:15 ET At Dallas ................... -6.5 ...................... New Orleans Monday Night Football Point Spread 12/11 8:30 ET Chicago .................... -6.5 ........................ At St. Louis Straight Category : Date & Time Favorite ................................................ Underdog 12/7 8:00 ET At Pittsburgh........................................ ......... Cleveland 12/10 1:00 ET At Kansas City.............................................. Baltimore 12/10 1:00 ET Atlanta ................................................. At Tampa Bay 12/10 1:00 ET At Detroit .................................................. . Minnesota 12/10 1:00 ET At Houston ................................................ Tennessee 12/10 1:00 ET At Carolina .................................................. NY Giants 12/10 1:00 ET Indianapolis .......................................... At Jacksonville 12/10 1:00 ET At Washington .......................................... Philadelphia 12/10 1:00 ET At Cincinnati .................................................. Oakland 12/10 1:00 ET New England ................................................ At Miami 12/10 4:05 ET At San Francisco ......................................... Green Bay 12/10 4:05 ET Seattle .................................................. .... At Arizona 12/10 4:15 ET At San Diego .................................................. . Denver 12/10 4:15 ET At NY Jets .................................................. ..... Buffalo 12/10 8:15 ET At Dallas ................................................. New Orleans Monday Night Football 12/11 8:30 ET Chicago .................................................. . At St. Louis Monday Night Football Total Points Scored : ................ 35

What's wrong with the B's? They are actually starting to win!

Spread Category : Date & Time Favorite................ Spread.................. Underdog 11/30 8:00 ET At Cincinnati.............. -3.............................Baltimore 12/3 1:00 ET At Chicago . ..............-9.5...........................Minnesota 12/3 1:00 ET At St. Louis............... -6.5.............................. Arizona 12/3 1:00 ET Indianapolis.............. -7.5 ......................At Tennessee 12/3 1:00 ET At New Orleans.......... -7....................... San Francisco 12/3 1:00 ET At Washington.......... -1.5................................ Atlanta 12/3 1:00 ET Kansas City................ -5 .........................At Cleveland 12/3 1:00 ET At New England.........13.5.............................. .. Detroit 12/3 1:00 ET San Diego.................. -6............................. At Buffalo 12/3 1:00 ET NY Jets.................... -1.5........................ At Green Bay 12/3 4:05 ET At Miami.................. -1.5.......................... Jacksonville 12/3 4:15 ET At Pittsburgh.............. -8........................... Tampa Bay 12/3 4:15 ET Dallas...................... -3.5......................... At NY Giants 12/3 4:05 ET At Oakland................ -3 ................................Houston 12/3 8:15 ET At Denver.................. -3................................. Seattle Monday Night Football Point Spread 12/4 8:30 ET Carolina.................. -3.5.............................. At Philadelphia Straight Category : Date & Time Favorite.......................................... .... Underdog 11/30 8:00 ET At Cincinnati........................................ .......Baltimore 12/3 1:00 ET At Chicago . ...............................................Minnesota 12/3 1:00 ET At St. Louis............................................. ....... Arizona 12/3 1:00 ET Indianapolis...................................... ......At Tennessee 12/3 1:00 ET At New Orleans..................................... San Francisco 12/3 1:00 ET At Washington........................................ ........ Atlanta 12/3 1:00 ET Kansas City.............................................. At Cleveland 12/3 1:00 ET At New England........................................... .... Detroit 12/3 1:00 ET San Diego............................................. ...... At Buffalo 12/3 1:00 ET NY Jets.............................................. .... At Green Bay 12/3 4:05 ET At Miami............................................. ..... Jacksonville 12/3 4:15 ET At Pittsburgh........................................ ..... Tampa Bay 12/3 4:15 ET Dallas............................................ ......... At NY Giants 12/3 4:05 ET At Oakland........................................... ..........Houston 12/3 8:15 ET At Denver............................................ ........... Seattle Monday Night Football 12/4 8:30 ET Carolina.......................................... ............ At Philadphia Monday Night Football Total Points Scored : ................ ___45____