Plumpamania

We won't make the playoffs unless Josh Beckett, John Lackey and Jon Lester pitch to standard levels and until J.D. Drew, Adrian Beltre and David Ortiz start hitting. That's how we'll make the playoffs.

This thread made my head hurt.

B/c crazier things can happen.... PS I hate Kenny Williams.

AL East Red Sox Rays (Wild Card) Yankees Orioles Blue Jays AL Central Twins Royals Tigers Guardians White Sox AL West Mariners Rangers Angels Athletics NL East Phillies Braves Marlins Nationals Mets NL Central Cardinals Reds Brewers Cubs Pirates Astros NL West Rockies Dodgers (Wild Card) Diamondbacks Giants Padres I don't like going cookie cutter. I see many injuries in my crystal ball for the Pinstripe Crusaders.

Josh Reddick Vote for him for Clean Up Hitter in 2010...

But HEY I heard that Josh Reddick is coming to camp..

And making friends isn't yours jackassson...

If he was in year 6 of MLB service maybe.

Tabble tennis? Is that new?

Cano gives AIDS to kids.

I kind of remember Pedro Martinez, Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz being on this team. I remember Jim Rice, Luis Tiant, Mo Vaughn, Nomar Garciaparra, Orlando Cabrera, Dave Roberts, Heathcliff Slocumbe, Bill Hall, Mike Cameron, Freddy Sanchez...and that's off the top of my head at work while getting slammed with business calls. Yea..

B/c it's calling wolf. You can't start throwing around a race card if there is no premise to it. Should I speak about the number of white players on the Yankees: Jeter (even if only half), Texeira, Pettite, Hughes, Chamberlain, Coke, Damon, Gardner, Swisher, Burnett, Ransom......They only have 4 solid players of non white descent (Rivera, Posada, Sabathia, Rodriguez) and 1 iffy one (Cano). God the Yankees are full of white power neo nazis.

That's b/c the MLB club is full of scrubs.

I don't know who's worse, him or Joe Buck.

I'd be willing to wager on Tazawa, he went through a rough first year as a 22/23 year old adjusting to a new country, language and food. I think he'll be money.

So if we shouldn't go off productivity in the minors to see when a player maybe well good in the Bigs when should we? Do we just wait for the next Josh Beckett or Roger Clemens? I bet you guys were against Lester on his original call up ... Bowden's 3.13 ERA at AAA is a good sign, Tazawa's 2.38 ERA at AAA is a good sign too. Yes Hughes and Chamberlain have better stuff, but Wang, who was a mediocre prospect and mediocre in AAA was a 20 game winner at the MLB level, go figure? No one here is the next Bill James or Theo Epstein or Billy Beane or John Scherholtz or anything...but as you guys said I'm allowed to have my opinion. If Chris Tillman is ready for the bigs and Jeff Niemann is, Bowden surely is and Tazawa is on the way...

Tazawa: Pitching Stats year team lg level org age w l % era g gs sv ip h r er hr bb so whip k/bb k/9 2008 Nippon Oil JABA Intl --- 22 13 1 0.929 0.80 21 11 5 113.0 --- --- 10 --- 15 114 --- 7.60 9.08 2009 Portland East AA Bos 23 9 5 0.643 2.57 18 18 0 98.0 80 31 28 8 26 88 1.08 3.38 8.08 2009 Pawtucket IL AAA Bos 23 0 2 0.000 2.38 2 2 0 11.3 7 4 3 0 1 6 0.71 6.00 4.76 2009 Boston AL MLB Bos 23 2 3 0.400 7.46 6 4 0 25.3 43 23 21 4 9 13 2.05 1.44 4.62 Bowden: Career Stats year team lg level org age w l % era g gs cg sh sv ip h r er hr bb so k/bb 2005 Waubonsie Valley HS HS 18 --- 0.45 80.0 172 --- 2005 GCL Red Sox GCL Rk Bos 18 1 0 1.000 0.00 4 2 0 0 0 6.0 4 0 0 0 4 10 2.50 2006 Greenville SAL A Bos 19 9 6 0.600 3.51 24 24 0 0 0 107.2 91 50 42 9 31 118 3.81 2006 Wilmington Car A Bos 19 0 0 --- 9.00 1 1 0 0 0 5.0 9 5 5 0 1 3 3.00 2007 Lancaster Cal A Bos 20 2 0 1.000 1.37 8 8 0 0 0 46.0 35 10 7 1 8 46 5.75 2007 Portland East AA Bos 20 8 6 0.571 4.28 19 19 1 0 0 96.2 105 51 46 9 33 82 2.48 2008 Portland East AA Bos 21 9 4 0.692 2.33 19 19 0 0 0 104.1 72 31 27 5 24 101 4.21 2008 Pawtucket IL AAA Bos 21 0 3 0.000 3.38 7 6 0 0 0 40.0 40 16 15 5 5 29 5.80 2008 Boston AL MLB Bos 21 1 0 1.000 3.60 1 1 0 0 0 5.0 7 2 2 0 1 3 3.00 2009 Pawtucket IL AAA Bos 22 4 6 0.400 3.13 24 24 0 0 0 126.1 106 47 44 11 47 88 1.87 2009 Boston AL MLB Bos 22 1 1 0.500 9.56 8 1 0 0 0 16.0 23 17 17 3 6 12 2.00 If Hughes and Chamberlain can pitch in the AL East, these kids can. They did great in AAA and were limited in MLB experience last year. If you look at other #4 starters in the AL East you have: Andy Pettite, M. Rzepczynski, C. Tillman and J. Niemann. I'd say they could in comparison they can...

- Soxprospects.com Pitching Stats year team lg level org age w l % era g gs sv ip h r er hr bb so whip k/bb k/9 2008 Nippon Oil JABA Intl --- 22 13 1 0.929 0.80 21 11 5 113.0 --- --- 10 --- 15 114 --- 7.60 9.08 2009 Portland East AA Bos 23 9 5 0.643 2.57 18 18 0 98.0 80 31 28 8 26 88 1.08 3.38 8.08 2009 Pawtucket IL AAA Bos 23 0 2 0.000 2.38 2 2 0 11.3 7 4 3 0 1 6 0.71 6.00 4.76 2009 Boston AL MLB Bos 23 2 3 0.400 7.46 6 4 0 25.3 43 23 21 4 9 13 2.05 1.44 4.62 He'll be fine.

Tazawa is a SP and is under 23, Saito is a MR with injury history moving towards 40. Big difference. Tazawa is a prospect and signed as a prospect for only $6 million. How'd you have felt paying Adolis Chapman $30 million to go through the minors as a prospect? Our #4 this year is Daisuke. Tazawa can be a servicable #4 TODAY in the AL East. I firmly believe that. Michael Bowden (drafted not technically signed like a FA to a minor league contract as you stated) would be a solid #4 TODAY in the AL East. The Sox have some great young arms. Our AAA is stacked this year in terms of pitching. I think you need to chill out on your over evalution of the farm system. The only reason he pitched in the MLB level last year was due to injuries to our MLB staff. Thanks.

Tazawa is still extremely young and could be a capable #4 in the future.

Lester - Beckett - Lackey .... Matsuzaka and Bucch or Wake at the end.. Bring on the Yankees, and peg Jeter in the face.

1. CF Span 2. C Mauer 3. 1B Morneau 4. RF Cuddyer 5. DH Kubel 6. SS Hardy 7. LF Young 8. 2B Hudson 9. 3B Tolbert/Punto OR 1. CF Span 2. C Mauer 3. 1B Morneau 4. RF Cuddyer 5. DH Thome 6. LF Cuddyer 7. SS Hardy 8. 2B Hudson 9. 3B Tolbert/Punto Either way beast.