Projecting the 2025 Red Sox Opening Day Roster, Version 2.0

Winckowski has not looked good, so far, but I'm not sure he's off the 26 just yet,

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It's Winck vs Guerrero. Winck wasn't great last season and has started off poorly. The org is probably pretty down on him. I'd rather see Guerrero get the nod too. 

The bullpen projected here is what SoxProspects projected on their previous podcast. Seems about right? Last spot is between Adams and Ottavino. 

I was thinking more about Ottavino vs Wink, but wink has options, so keeping Ottavino as "an option" might be worthwile.

59 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It may be Adams vs Ottavino vs Winck, but I think they really want to keep one of these veteran depth guys on for the start of the season. Ottavino had a decent stretches last season (3/30 - 5/28 3.32 ERA/2.93 FIP, 6/8 - 9/17 2.83 ERA/3.41 FIP). Adams started off strong last season (2.37 ERA/3.32 FIP on 6/1), but fell apart after 7.90 ERA/6.68 FIP 6/2 - 7/13).

I'm fine with whoever they think is the best, but I also think whatever gives them the most options to keep in the system, weather on the 40 or not will be a top priority.

10 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

I think Wilson is a left handed pitcher. Although judging how he throws, maybe he is a right handed pitcher impersonating a left handed pitcher!!!!!

either way, he is hard to watch without throwing up !!!!!!

He'll make the roster, but may not make it to June.

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Chris Hatfield said something pretty interesting that I'll summarize "the Opening Day roster doesn't matter all that much, what really matters is the roster on Game 162." 

That hasn't mattered in a long time.

Maybe that changes, this fall.

As with many teams in MLB, how much injuries take their toll on the team could be the deciding factor.

We know we will have some. We will likely start the season with 2-3 players on the 10 day IL, likely Crawford and Bello and maybe Abreu.

36 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

In this instance, it was about the '25 Sox. I'm not sure if it would change for other years. 

Well, when you are out of the race in August, I'm not sure it matters much.

The most important 26 man roster is the one in effect on August 1 , after the early and mid season injuries, the trade deadline , and large sample sizes  in the books.   It is also when you can see if you are  capable of or strongly in contention for post season .   Those are the players you are counting on to bring it home.

Quick aside, what will be 3Bman Raffy Devers reaction to being DH ?    It might be more likely to have Bregman , than the sensitive man-child pouting

29 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

The most important 26 man roster is the one in effect on August 1 , after the early and mid season injuries, the trade deadline , and large sample sizes  in the books.   It is also when you can see if you are  capable of or strongly in contention for post season .   Those are the players you are counting on to bring it home.

Quick aside, what will be 3Bman Raffy Devers reaction to being DH ?    It might be more likely to have Bregman , than the sensitive man-child pouting

"Sensitive man child."   That's worse than the BOS media.

10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

If you're out of the race in August, your team would probably be constructed a little differently on Game 162 than if they were in the race in August.

Yes, and so why would that matter more?

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Because if I gave you the Game 162 roster today and it was filled with a team that looked ready to compete in the playoffs, you'd be more excited about the upcoming season than if it looked like how it looked on 9/30/24, 9/30/23, 9/30/22, etc. That's why I care about more what the roster will look like later on than what it looks like now. 

I'm not sure how much different it looked on 9/20/24 than 8/1/24 or 9/1/24, except for guys on the IL. We had Danny Jansen, Luis Garcia and Sims, that on the surface would look like we were trying to compete for game 162.

9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

"Sensitive man child."   That's worse than the BOS media.

i thought that was something from Shaughnessy ?   

Anyway, i do not hold Devers in the same high regard as many do.  No question he can hit above average but overall he is no  " face of a franchise".

6 hours ago, vegasbob said:

i thought that was something from Shaughnessy ?   

Anyway, i do not hold Devers in the same high regard as many do.  No question he can hit above average but overall he is no  " face of a franchise".

He does not appear to want to be "the face." but that's a different matter. Repeating what Shaughnessey might have been the first to say made me think you agreed.