2008-2017 New York Yankees Cheating Scandal

[Slasher9]

According to Joe Girardi the New York Yankees used illegal means to steal and relay signs to their batters.

 

“I was part of a system where [the signs] came from upstairs, to someone in the dugout, to the guy at second base,” Joe Girardi said before fumbling with his words.

[jacksonianmarch]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/phillies/yankees-phillies-joe-girardi-cheating-astros-steal-signs-mlb-network-20200220.html%3foutputType=amp

 

He maintains that they didn’t cheat and that this was how they caught cheating teams. He’s a Phillies manager now and maintains that they didn’t cheat. More fake news from sour Sox fans

[Bellhorn04]

And then there's Beltran. One of the Astros was quoted as saying that when Beltran joined the Stros in 2017 he told them the team was 'behind the times' on sign-stealing. This was after playing for the Yankees in 2014 to 2016.

 

And then of course Beltran was hired by the Yankees as an adviser for the 2019 season.

 

The stories that man could tell.

[Station 13]

He should spill and come clean now he is busted. Many of the 2017 Astros team has spoken. Beltran needs to man up about his transgressions. Edited February 20, 2020 by Station 13

[Station 13]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/phillies/yankees-phillies-joe-girardi-cheating-astros-steal-signs-mlb-network-20200220.html%3foutputType=amp

 

He maintains that they didn’t cheat and that this was how they caught cheating teams. He’s a Phillies manager now and maintains that they didn’t cheat. More fake news from sour Sox fans

 

The Athletic piece clearly screams out loud the Yankees started using technologies no later than 2015 to decode signals.

 

As for Giradi, a manager job is to spin lies and look after his team. Oldest trick in the book saying their surveillance is to only keep an eye on the other teams cheating. Anyone who is gullible enough to believe that BS shouldn't be allow to leave their house.

[jacksonianmarch]

Grasping at straws again. The desperate need to convict your rivals of the same crap the Sox did is actually really amusing. Kinsler has already condemned the Sox with his public diatribe. Even though, to me, it’s pretty harmless and basic, but according to the rules, it’s a violation. Kinsler said the Sox would go into the replay room and watch their ABs after the fact, but use the video to decode the signs from the pitcher. While that’s better than a camera in CF relaying real time info to hitters second by second, it violates the rules and as second time offenders, the Sox are going to get hit.

 

Going forward, MLB is said to be locking the replay rooms and forbidding players from entering them during games. That should have been an easy call FROM THE BEGINNING. The idea that this wouldn’t happen in game is plain stupid and shows a total lack of foresight from the commish, again

[Bellhorn04]

Grasping at straws again. The desperate need to convict your rivals of the same crap the Sox did is actually really amusing. Kinsler has already condemned the Sox with his public diatribe. Even though, to me, it’s pretty harmless and basic, but according to the rules, it’s a violation. Kinsler said the Sox would go into the replay room and watch their ABs after the fact, but use the video to decode the signs from the pitcher. While that’s better than a camera in CF relaying real time info to hitters second by second, it violates the rules and as second time offenders, the Sox are going to get hit.

 

Going forward, MLB is said to be locking the replay rooms and forbidding players from entering them during games. That should have been an easy call FROM THE BEGINNING. The idea that this wouldn’t happen in game is plain stupid and shows a total lack of foresight from the commish, again

 

I totally agree with your second paragraph.

 

As for the Sox, though, by now Manfred must have the uncomfortable feeling that use of the replay room for decoding signals was epidemic.

 

So if he comes down hard on them, what will he do when it emerges, as it very likely will, that they were only doing normal procedure and that it's him who really f***ed up with his lack of foresight? He will look like an all-time bozo.

[Slasher9]

Grasping at straws again. The desperate need to convict your rivals of the same crap the Sox did is actually really amusing.

 

jacksonianmarch...it is a quote from your long time manager about how the New York Yankees sign stealing scheme worked. it is directly from his mouth. how is that "grasping at straws"? please, do tell.....

[jacksonianmarch]

It is grasping at straws. Girardi said they had the FO altering them when other teams were cheating. That’s not illegal. What you need to punish, per Not a Man-fred is confessions, admissions, etc of using video in game to figure out what’s coming. Also, if other teams did it, Not a Man-fred isn’t going to care. The Astros did it egregiously and won a WS. The Sox violated the rules and won a WS. The Yanks didn’t win during that time. The optics are terrible that two title teams in a row cheated.

[Bellhorn04]

It is grasping at straws. Girardi said they had the FO altering them when other teams were cheating. That’s not illegal. What you need to punish, per Not a Man-fred is confessions, admissions, etc of using video in game to figure out what’s coming. Also, if other teams did it, Not a Man-fred isn’t going to care. The Astros did it egregiously and won a WS. The Sox violated the rules and won a WS. The Yanks didn’t win during that time. The optics are terrible that two title teams in a row cheated.

 

So your belief is that if any Red Sox player used the replay room to try to decode signals, Manfred will crush the Red Sox for it and be completely oblivious to the possibility that another team did the same thing unless someone actually squeals on said other team?

[jacksonianmarch]

I’m still entirely dumbfounded that the replay rooms were placed next to the home dugout, btw. Ridiculous. Replay was rushed into the game and placed next to dugouts basically begging players to use it.

 

I’m going to predict the following.

 

Sox get hit harder for a lesser charge due to precedent. They’ll lose their top 2 picks for two years and have their IFA budget slashed by $1 mil for both years. Cora will get a 2 year ban since the Sox issue wasn’t as egregious but still the coach has to be punished for both Houston and Boston. Manfred will shut down all further complaints and try to move forward with locked replay rooms

[Bellhorn04]

I’m still entirely dumbfounded that the replay rooms were placed next to the home dugout, btw. Ridiculous. Replay was rushed into the game and placed next to dugouts basically begging players to use it.

 

I’m going to predict the following.

 

Sox get hit harder for a lesser charge due to precedent. They’ll lose their top 2 picks for two years and have their IFA budget slashed by $1 mil for both years. Cora will get a 2 year ban since the Sox issue wasn’t as egregious but still the coach has to be punished for both Houston and Boston. Manfred will shut down all further complaints and try to move forward with locked replay rooms

 

So what do you think of the fact that MLB informed the Red Sox that bench coach Roenicke was free and clear and they could go ahead and name him manager?

[jacksonianmarch]

It tells me that this was player driven and likely condoned by Cora. Cora is gonna take the fall.

[Bellhorn04]

If Manfred hammers the Sox because it's a 'second offense', he sets a clear precedent for the same thing to happen to the Yankees.

 

And there's no way he can put a lid on this. Because the media love this story and there are obviously players and ex-players out there who are willing to talk about it.

[Slasher9]

It is grasping at straws. Girardi said they had the FO altering them when other teams were cheating. That’s not illegal.

 

wrong. girardi said:

“I was part of a system where [the signs] came from upstairs, to someone in the dugout, to the guy at second base,” Joe Girardi said before fumbling with his words.