Oklahoma College player killed "for fun"

[Emmz]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/james-francis-edwards-tweets-racist-messages_n_3794913.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Caim%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D362068

 

Lol. This thing won't get near the attention that the Trayvon Martin thing did, and this **** is DEFINITELY racist.

[Thunder]

Don't see very many anti-white statements...

[Emmz]

How many were you expecting? He said he hates white people, and that 90% of them are "nasty", whatever that means.

[Thunder]

How many were you expecting? He said he hates white people, and that 90% of them are "nasty", whatever that means.

 

Probably just the cops who pissed him off.

[Emmz]

Lolwut.

[Thunder]

I know how teenagers think these days, I am one. We have no respect for any authority. The cops pissed him off, so now he thinks white people are nasty.

[a700hitter]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/james-francis-edwards-tweets-racist-messages_n_3794913.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Caim%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D36a racist incident== 2068

 

Lol. This thing won't get near the attention that the Trayvon Martin thing did, and this **** is DEFINITELY racist.

This situation meets the minimum requirement for a racially motivated crime-- there was an African American and a Caucasian involved. In the Martin case, there was no Caucasian involved in the incident, but it was portrayed as a black-white racial incident.

[Emmz]

I know how teenagers think these days, I am one. We have no respect for any authority. The cops pissed him off, so now he thinks white people are nasty.

 

No, you're just pretending that you know what teens think.

 

I was a teen not too long ago myself.

[Thunder]

No, you're just pretending that you know what teens think.

 

I was a teen not too long ago myself.

 

Well then. Be like that.

[Emmz]

This situation meets the minimum requirement for a racially motivated crime-- there was an African American and a Caucasian involved. In the Martin case, there was no Caucasian involved in the incident, but it was portrayed as a black-white racial incident.

 

I think racism can occur in a Hispanic/black scenario, but there was nothing to imply that any racism had occurred in the Zimmerman/Martin case at all. You're right though, Zimmerman was portrayed as a white man, and I think a bunch of people just automatically assumed he was white with a name like George Zimmerman. Here, it's a black kid who killed a white guy, and he even said on his Twitter that he doesn't like white people.

 

Even if he's only joking, he probably has a lot of resentment for white people to make a statement like that.

[rjortiz]

I think one of them said something about, "knoccing out 5 woods (white people) since Zimmerman trial." Kids were definitely racists.

[Emmz]

You know that white kid who was with them acts like he's just a black guy with white skin. We all know that guy, he listens to Eminem a lot and wears South Pole gear.

[Thunder]

There's no such thing as being black really, but there are a lot of non-black people who talk like they're black and stylize themselves like they're black.

 

Nothing is really wrong with that, but a lot of those people also have attitude problems, and act like thugs. I'm not saying that if you act like a thug you're acting black, but a lot of people who live in seedy areas, or who are just poor in general act like that. Lots of black people are stuck in poverty, and that's why we have those stereotypes.

 

I hate to say it, because it sounds racist, but more than half of the black people I've ever met or interacted with act that way. Those stereotypes aren't necessarily correct, otherwise they'd be facts and not stereotypes, but there's still a reason that they exist.

 

I'm trying not to offend any of the black members of Talksox, and I don't consider myself racist, but I felt like it was appropriate given the topic.

 

That's why I deleted my post.

[Emmz]

I'm not ashamed of what I type. I can say with full confidence that what I said isn't a gripe about black people, and I'd feel comfortable discussing it with black people as I would with white people.

 

I interpreted your comment more as sympathetic than anything racist.

[Thunder]

I'm not ashamed of what I type. I can say with full confidence that what I said isn't a gripe about black people, and I'd feel comfortable discussing it with black people as I would with white people.

 

I interpreted your comment more as sympathetic than anything racist.

 

I've been in enough s*** lately, so I deleted it as a precaution.

[a700hitter]

$60,000 a year to house an inmate? What country club are they going to?

And we thought that $60,000/ year per inmate was a lot. This is disgraceful.

 

Taxpayer cost of housing NYC prisoners last year: $167,000 per inmate

 

By REBECCA HARSHBARGER

Last Updated: 7:49 AM, August 23, 2013

Posted: 12:46 AM, August 23, 2013

 

Crime doesn’t pay — but it costs a fortune.

 

The city spent about $167,000 per inmate last year and had 12,287 prisoners on an average day, according to the Independent Budget Office’s first-ever study of the Big Apple’s jails.

 

“The numbers provide a troubling statistical portrait of the more than 12,000 people in our city jails on a typical day last year, coming at a significant fiscal cost to the city and no doubt great social cost to families and communities,” said the IBO’s Doug Turetsky.

 

He said the average annual cost per inmate covers additional expenses, such as staff salaries, fringe benefits, facility maintenance and capital expenditures.

 

Michael Jacobson, former president of the Vera Institute of Justice and a former city correction commissioner, says those fixed costs don’t change.

 

He said the city’s incarceration numbers are down by nearly half since the early ’90s, when crack flooded city neighborhoods. In 1992, the daily inmate population peaked at 21,000.

 

“Jail is an expensive proposition, which is why you want to use it only when you have to use it,” Jacobson said.

 

The analysis found a huge disparity when it came to race: 57 percent of inmates were black, 33 percent Hispanic and 7 percent white.

 

Also, 93 percent of those locked up were male and three-quarters were pre-trial detainees. The other one-quarter were sentenced to city jail time or awaiting transfer to state prisons.

 

A small number of the incarcerated, 7 percent, were ages 16 to 18.

 

Jacobson said that number is lower than it was when he was commissioner. This is due, he said, to city efforts to provide adolescents with alternatives to incarceration.

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nyc_prisons_gilded_cages_EDFG3OkjCXbAfOhiMD0lAI

[rjortiz]

And we thought that $60,000/ year per inmate was a lot. This is disgraceful.

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nyc_prisons_gilded_cages_EDFG3OkjCXbAfOhiMD0lAI

 

The article mentions that they factor the cost of staff salaries, fringe benefits, facility maintenance and capital expenditures into the cost of an inmate. Inmates usually sleep four to a cell, and are fed very poorly. I would guess the actual cost of an inmate is no more than $12,000. The rest goes to the prison system.

[a700hitter]

The article mentions that they factor the cost of staff salaries, fringe benefits, facility maintenance and capital expenditures into the cost of an inmate. Inmates usually sleep four to a cell, and are fed very poorly. I would guess the actual cost of an inmate is no more than $12,000. The rest goes to the prison system.

Cost is cost. Guards are overhead. The taxpayer doesn't get to deduct those salaries.

 

Also, don't you think that the $155,000 per inmate ($167,000 minus $12,000 for individual prisoners) attributable to salaries, benefits and facility maintenance is a little high? I don't know the guard to inmate ratio but even if it was 1 to 1, $155,000 is still way too high. I own a condo in a high rise on a beach and my share of the maintenance is $12,000/ yr and that is considered high. $155, 000 of maintenance attributable to each inmate is outrageous.

Edited August 23, 2013 by a700hitter

[rjortiz]

Cost is cost. Guards are overhead. The taxpayer doesn't get to deduct those salaries.

 

Also, don't you think that the $155,000 per inmate ($167,000 minus $12,000 for individual prisoners) attributable to salaries, benefits and facility maintenance is a little high? I don't know the guard to inmate ratio but even if it was 1 to 1, $155,000 is still way too high. I own a condo in a high rise on a beach and my share of the maintenance is $12,000/ yr and that is considered high. $155, 000 of maintenance attributable to each inmate is outrageous.

 

Yeah, I should have added that in my post. The prison system is obviously overcharging the taxpayers.