Carl Crawford 4 game program

[MJantomaso]

Carl Crawford is reportedly on a "four-day program," according manager Bobby Valentine.

In other words, he'll be scheduled regular off-days until further notice. Crawford is hitting just .219/.265/.219 since returning from the disabled list earlier this month. Cody Ross figures to see semi-regular starts in left field. Jul 28 - 1:50 PM

Source: Scott Lauber on Twitter

[wyo-sox]

The story with V. On WEEI says V. Ignored the 4 day thing as h wanted his players playing. V. is quoted as saying he knows better now. He is not the manager, he has found he is a marketing tool that did not work.

 

The way Tito was fired, the way V. has been neutered and not backed up by management...... wow, who the hell is going to even want to he the next Sox manager! Does Robert Kraft like baseball?

[SoxSport]

Fire Henry.

[Designated Hater]

Bobby V got in trouble for not following GM orders. What a load of s*** that Bobby has to listen to this hack GM that we have here.

 

If Carl can't play, let him get the damn surgery, but if we're gonna keep him around on this 4 day thing, he must be hating life right now and probably wants a trade out of here.

[Youk Of The Nation]

He may not be the definition of a "winning manager", but right now I think a little Lou Piniella is just what this team might need. Hell, he managed Crawford before, as a matter of fact. Maybe all this Sox team needs is someone to scream and curse and call them worthless, to unite them all in performing admirably just to shut him up.

 

Actually, is R. Lee Ermey doing anything right now?

[SoxSport]

I think what's going on is Ben & Co are trying to push V out--by neutralizing him and getting him to quit.

Look at the way Ben publically contradicted V on Youkilis. That's when V should have quit. But that's what the FO wants.

 

 

The folks in the front office haven't forgotten not getting their manager pick. Nor have they taken lightly, maybe, to Epstein getting the boot. Too bad Henry doesn't have the balls to boot the rest of them. The big mistakes were made pre-season by Lucchino/Henry, and it's blowing up in their faces.

[SoxSport]

Bobby V got in trouble for not following GM orders. What a load of s*** that Bobby has to listen to this hack GM that we have here.

 

If Carl can't play, let him get the damn surgery, but if we're gonna keep him around on this 4 day thing, he must be hating life right now and probably wants a trade out of here.

 

Carl should ask to be traded. That would create a bit of a storm to wake a few people up.

[SoxSport]

He may not be the definition of a "winning manager", but right now I think a little Lou Piniella is just what this team might need. Hell, he managed Crawford before, as a matter of fact. Maybe all this Sox team needs is someone to scream and curse and call them worthless, to unite them all in performing admirably just to shut him up.

 

Actually, is R. Lee Ermey doing anything right now?

 

 

Yeah. Piniella would be good. He's won a few championships, so those '07 guys who think they are running the show couldn't BS him.

 

V is disapponting. He has no fight. Warmed over Tito.

 

Ermey is a pussycat.

[kapsis21]

also did anyone notice he is back into that stance where he is in that uncomfortable position.. unlike SFF suggested which he was when he got back.. but he is back into that stretch stance at the plate.. hate that.

[jung]

I will have to look again tonight because I was not looking for it last night but I think if you have the patience (I sometimes do and sometimes don't) to watch Carl set up in the box, he is often in the "new" stance which has been a version of the old stance from the start this year...just not as pronounced. However I did also notice when last I took the trouble to look that even in the middle of plate appearances he would be almost out to last year's stance. So I think he is has simply not gotten comfortable enough with it to make sure he is using the new stance every plate appearance. He does reach pitches outside better but old or new he does not appear to see them out there any better and there were times that I was sure he was using the new stance and he would still be swinging at pitches off the outer edge of the plate.

 

The only way you can tell on TV anyway is to look and see the position of Carl's lead leg. If it looks like his foot on his lead leg is likely way in the back of the box well that is pretty close to the old stance. If it looks like his foot is a few inches forward of that....not many....like two inches forward of that...then that is the new stance.

[TutGadol]

I can't recall anyone who was seriously suspected to need TJ, didn't have the surgery, and went on to have a productive career. Now is as good of a time as ever to fix all the s*** in his arm. He could possibly DH next year if Ortiz doesn't resign, and if not my guess is he'll be back by the AS break. His power might return to a fraction of what he used to be, maybe he'll even get the ball into the outfield once in a while.

[a700hitter]

I can't recall anyone who was seriously suspected to need TJ' date=' didn't have the surgery, and went on to have a productive career. Now is as good of a time as ever to fix all the s*** in his arm. He could possibly DH next year if Ortiz doesn't resign, and if not my guess is he'll be back by the AS break. His power might return to a fraction of what he used to be, maybe he'll even get the ball into the outfield once in a while.[/quote']I am old, so I do remember an instance. When Nolan Ryan was with the Astros, he was diagnosed with a frayed tendon. He was told that he needed the surgery. Ryan decide to rest it. If it healed, fine. If it did not heal, he would retire. It healed, and he pitched for several more seasons throwing consistently hard.

[SoxSport]

This 4th game "rest" day for Crawford in the middle of the Yankee series--after an off day two days before--has damaged the Red Sox organization--even more than the chicken-beer episode. Most teams wouldn't take that seriously--since many do the same. They know that's partly media BS.

 

But the benching of a player without the manager's approval with a very thin argument that didn't make sense is a signal to other teams there are internal problems on the Red Sox. That hurts their ability to trade or sign players. Who wants to play for a dysfunctional organization with no management leadership?

 

Henry should recognize this, and either clean house or sell the team.

[lospunchados]

I can't recall anyone who was seriously suspected to need TJ' date=' didn't have the surgery, and went on to have a productive career. Now is as good of a time as ever to fix all the s*** in his arm. He could possibly DH next year if Ortiz doesn't resign, and if not my guess is he'll be back by the AS break. His power might return to a fraction of what he used to be, maybe he'll even get the ball into the outfield once in a while.[/quote']

 

Albert Pujols was very close to getting tommy john surgery after the 2003 season. Then they moved him permanantly to the infield. Hey almost still needed it again after the 2007 season. He ended getting two smaller surgeries and lots of flexibility and strengthening exercises (one surgery after the 2008 season and one after the 2009 season). He did all right for himself .

 

We unfortuanately can't move CC to the infield so who knows if alternative lesser surgeries and rehab can be effective enough without going to TJ surgery.

[jung]

I don't even think this should be an issue. The guy has missed so much time already what the hell does another 8-9 months in the offseason mean in the overall scheme of things. Either he plays a bit longer this year and gets the surgery in the offseason or he does not play a bit longer and gets the surgery now. Seeing how he looked after that one throw the other night which by the way was much more a pop gun blast than a howitzer shot, I would say he is going to have to resign himself to soft tosses or get the operation.

[SoxSport]

Tweet right now about a meeting going on in Vs office with medical staff, Cherington and LL.

Has to be about CC--maybe that 4 game business or surgery on his elbow. CC was not invited.

[a700hitter]

Tweet right now about a meeting going on in Vs office with medical staff, Cherington and LL.

Has to be about CC--maybe that 4 game business or surgery on his elbow. CC was not invited.

It could be about Ortiz's heel. That's much more concerning.

[jung]

Please don't be bad news about the heel....I have to admit thought that already seems like it is maybe stretching out longer than initially expected.

[jonnylongfella]

It could be about Ortiz's heel. That's much more concerning.

 

Or it could've been about Ryan Sweeney....fresh off of being removed late in the game last night because he punched a door.