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Settle down everyone' date=' this game will probably last at least 9 innings, plenty of time to win this game. One scoreless inning does not mean we loose the game, [b']one bad series[/b] does not flag the end of the season.

 

good thing we've had plenty of those

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No I do not think their dependence on the HR is the reason they are losing games.

 

Primarily they lose games because their starting pitching stinks and they allow the opponents to many extra outs to play with.

 

They do lack timely hitting though and they rarely are willing to take what the pitcher is giving them. For the most part they are hitters that do not adapt to what the pitcher is doing insisting on doing what they want to do instead. They are for the most part just not good enough to approach their plate appearances that way. The guys that are pull hitters in the main will try to pull regardless of the situation and the pitch just as an example of that. How many times have we seen Aviles insistent on trying to pull even when he does not have a pitch that he can pull. Waste the pitch if you cannot do what you want to do with it but for crying out loud don't try to do something with the pitch that is just going to be a fail. Just using Aviles because he is a good example but they have a number of hitters that are very similar in that regard.

 

Junk-ballers really do force you to take what they are giving. What is galling is that junk-ballers give you a lot to work with if you are willing to approach your plate appearances that way. The Sox are in the main not and that is why so many junk-ballers eat them up.

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I should point out that very very few hitters are good enough to simply go on up to the plate with an approach that is somewhat disdainful of the pitcher. The Sox have one....Ortiz. However a whole bunch of the Sox hitters think they are good enough to approach their plate appearances that way. Most hitters are smart enough to know what they can and cannot do.

 

There is no reason for the Sox to be such easy meat for junk-baller after junk-baller.

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Now that Shop has a hit maybe having Aviles hit here will work. Aviles should be killing this guy
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That was a great example of Aviles trying to pull a ball that just could not have been pulled even if he had hit the damn thing
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I just don't know what else to say.

 

Are these guys uncoachable....I refuse to believe that a guy as gifted as Dave Magadan does not see the Sox hitters pulling this same s*** junk baller after junk baller.

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Our starter dug us a 4-0 hole after 2 innings. It has a psychologically negative effect on our hitters to always be in a hole. It's not the fault of the offense. It our so-called ace pitchers.
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Our starter dug us a 4-0 hole after 2 innings. It has a psychologically negative effect on our hitters to always be in a hole. It's not the fault of the offense. It our so-called ace pitchers.

 

I agree with this. Its amazing how the hitters play off a pitchers performance.

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Lets see...Beckett is working on a 9.00 ERA for tonight and he has nothing to do with this loss? Interesting perspective but I understand the frustration with the Sox failures with regard to timely hitting and beating junk ballers.

 

I will say that it takes quite a bit of intestinal fortitude to stand up to being behind every game before you have your shoe laces tied. I don't think the Sox are a particularly tough team along with all their other "qualities". They have some tough players but they sure don't play like a tough team. Ultimately it does become hard for a baseball team not to start to crack from the pressure of constantly playing from behind. Your opponent always feels free to become more and more aggressive in their pursuit of insurance runs while the Sox pull their horns in farther and farther.

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Our starter dug us a 4-0 hole after 2 innings. It has a psychologically negative effect on our hitters to always be in a hole. It's not the fault of the offense. It our so-called ace pitchers.

 

I'm sorry. I don't care how many runs you give up. A pitcher who throws his fastball 86 mph should not be shutting down this offense. That's a complete cop out for this offense.

 

I'm not saying it doesn't have an effect on them and put a damper on them, but they should still be able to produce. Definitely should not be getting shut out. They should have scored 4-5 runs by now. This guy is a complete f***ing bum.

 

The Sox are pathetic against pitchers like this. Jurrjens, Laffey, Vargas, Garcia, Quintana, McCarthy, I mean the list goes on. Any pitcher who can't throw 90 shits all over this team. It's absolutely pathetic.

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I agree with this. Its amazing how the hitters play off a pitchers performance.

 

What is also amazing is how Beckett's pitches just well enough to eat innings and lose. I get the feeling he is laughing at us and his teammates with his smugness.

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