Buchholz to see back specialist

[boston22407]

Terrible news for the #RedSox, as pitcher Clay Buchholz has been diagnosed with a stress fracture in his back & is out for the season. #MLB

 

http://twitter.com/#!/PatriotsHaven

 

Saw this on twitter???

[SoxFanForsyth]

CHICAGO -- With the benefit of hindsight, it's easy to now understand why the Red Sox spent so much time and energy on finding a starting pitcher at the trade deadline.

 

Clay Buchholz, who's been out six weeks, is suffering from a stress fracture in his lower back, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

 

It's unlikely that Buchholz will pitch again this season, though a return in the postseason has not entirely been ruled out yet.

 

Buchholz, whose last start was June 15, is scheduled to see noted back specialist Dr. Thomas Watkins in Los Angeles Monday. But Watkins will likely only confirm what has already been diagnosed.

 

Buchholz threw off the mound last Monday and told reporters afterward that he felt the session was a step in the right direction, adding that he felt about 80 percent recovered.

 

"I think it's going to feel better," Buchholz said at the time. "There was still a little soreness coming off after I threw. I sat down for about 10 minutes, did a couple stretches and it felt better. This is, I think, the biggest step in the right direction so far in this process."

 

However, the very next day, Buchholz experienced some additional soreness and underwent an MRI, which revealed the stress fracture. Previously, the official diagnosis had been that Buchholz was battling stress inflammation of the back.

 

Such injuries are rare for pitchers. They are more common in position players. New York Mets third baseman David Wright was diagnosed with a stress fracture in mid-May and only recently returned, having missed about two months.

 

No surgery is required for a stress fracture, which is usually healed with rest and treatment.

 

It's possible Buchholz could be physically ready sometime in September to resume pitching. By then, however, the seasons for every minor-league affiliate would be complete and there would be no venue for which Buchholz could rehab.

 

Without the benefit of live game conditions to build arm strength, it would be difficult for Buchholz to return late in the season. It's conceivable, the source said, that Buchholz could pitch in relief in the postseason, but that would be asking a great deal for someone who will not have faced major league hitters since mid-June.

 

General manager Theo Epstein, in a conference call with reporters Sunday to discuss the team's acquisition of Erik Bedard, said, "Clearly, we have some concern for Clay. It's been almost a couple of months now, which is longer than we expected it to be. We're still awaiting some more feedback and another opinion. I think we have a feel for what may be going on, but Clay is seeing another expert to get his opinion, then we're all going to put our heads together this week.

 

"I'll refrain from answering in too much detail until we have a chance to talk to Clay and we all have a chance to talk things through. Clearly any time a pitcher of his caliber isn't on the mound for a while and throws a side as he did on Monday but then can't necessarily back it up with another side and getting out there on a rehab assignment, there's some concern."

 

The Sox may have held off on making any announcement on Buchholz's condition out of fear that the news would cost them leverage in trade talks with opposing teams leading up to Sunday's deadline.

 

Well. That's complete s***. Lets hope that our rotation can hold up. Once we get into the post season, I like our odds with Beckett - Lester - Lackey - Bedard.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Beyond pissed.

[alphilip77]

If CC opts out, we HAVE to get him.

[Palodios]

If CC opts out' date=' we HAVE to get him.[/quote']

 

An inside source has been talking about how CC is expected to go to Philadelphia next year.

[jacksonianmarch]

CC isnt leaving NY, just saying. Buchholz should be fine after this heals, but it'll take 2 months of doing NO throwing for this to heal. Allowing him to keep throwing essentially worsened his condition. And after it heals, he'll need side sessions and a rehab stint, which wont be available come postseason. He may, and this is a very big reach, but may be a pen option for the playoffs, but there is no way his arm is stretched out enough by season's end to be a starter. Bedard is your new #3. And Bedard is about as injury prone as they come. Will be interesting to see how he fares in Fenway instead of in the pitcher haven of SafeCo

[AtWork]

An inside source has been talking about how CC is expected to go to Philadelphia next year.

 

Were you the poster that claimed you spoke to him in a bar in NYC the other week and he said in front of a bunch of New Yorkers that he's going to Philly?

[AtWork]

Sucks. I guess we cross our fingers now and hope Bedard can stay healthy.

 

But hey, if Colon can do it anyone can!

[Palodios]

Were you the poster that claimed you spoke to him in a bar in NYC the other week and he said in front of a bunch of New Yorkers that he's going to Philly?

 

[AtWork]

Would it be safe to assume that the troll has never predicted that a Red Sox player would be back from injury sooner than was reported and is therefor just throwing s*** at a wall and patting himself on the back when it sticks?

[redsoxbeatz]

Called it! No more Buch. Suppose we could still win the series but it would be one helluva' tough fight especially if Red Sox had to take on Phillie. Then it'd be game over. I hope Beckett stays in ACE form for next season.

 

Fuuuck. Who knows who will be injured next year.

[Palodios]

He actually has a very good track record when it comes to medical predictions. But then again, that's probably because every injury to this team has gone very badly lately.

[Dojji]

Someone please please fire that Red Sox doctor. He just had one of the best pitching prospects we've had in years rehabbing, literally, on a broken back.

[Palodios]

I'm telling you. Its time to screw the U.S medical system and switch to Voodoo.

[jacksonianmarch]

Someone please please fire that Red Sox doctor. He just had one of the best pitching prospects we've had in years rehabbing' date=' literally, on a broken back.[/quote']

 

Stress fractures are typically missed initially, that's the standard for them. Which is why I told you guys that if he continued to have pain, especially AFTER a workout, that you have to worry about something structurally. They tried the rehab idea, it didnt work, so they went back for another evaluation. By the way, they did re-MRI him and it showed the fracture. Can I essentially get a free pass for life now when it comes to injuries? It just so happens that the sox guys have had these injuries of late, but I've been pretty spot on with the Yankees ones as well, without even laying hands. BTW, speaking of Yankees injuries, Hughes will eventually need exploratory surgery where they will find a partial cuff tear or a tear in the labrum. You heard it here first

[a700hitter]

Stress fractures are typically missed initially' date=' that's the standard for them. Which is why I told you guys that if he continued to have pain, especially AFTER a workout, that you have to worry about something structurally. They tried the rehab idea, it didnt work, so they went back for another evaluation. By the way, they did re-MRI him and it showed the fracture. Can I essentially get a free pass for life now when it comes to injuries? It just so happens that the sox guys have had these injuries of late, but I've been pretty spot on with the Yankees ones as well, without even laying hands. BTW, speaking of Yankees injuries, Hughes will eventually need exploratory surgery where they will find a partial cuff tear or a tear in the labrum. You heard it here first[/quote']When it comes to the injury stuff, you are the authority of this forum IMO. Talent evaluation is another story.

[SoxFanForsyth]

CC isnt leaving NY' date=' just saying. Buchholz should be fine after this heals, but it'll take 2 months of doing NO throwing for this to heal. Allowing him to keep throwing essentially worsened his condition. And after it heals, he'll need side sessions and a rehab stint, which wont be available come postseason. He may, and this is a very big reach, but may be a pen option for the playoffs, but there is no way his arm is stretched out enough by season's end to be a starter. Bedard is your new #3. And Bedard is about as injury prone as they come. Will be interesting to see how he fares in Fenway instead of in the pitcher haven of SafeCo[/quote']

 

Considering he had a 4.53 ERA at Safeco in 49.2 IP this year, vs a 2.16 ERA away from Safeco in 41.2 IP, I would say that Safeco is not exactly boosting his numbers.

 

And his games away from Safeco haven't exactly been against nobody teams. He's thrown @TEX, @DET twice, @MIN, and @KCR. Last year, the Royals would have been something to roll your eyes at, but their offense is solid this year.

 

When talking about potential playoff match ups, Bedard this year has performed rather well.

 

v TEX: 12 IP, 5 ER, 3.75 ERA

v DET: 17 IP, 6 ER, 3.18 ERA

v LAA: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 0.00 ERA

 

If he can stay healthy, he could be an excellent pick up.

[Dojji]

That's one big if.

 

Personally I hope that our attempts to push the cutting edge of the whole keeping-pitchers-healthy thing pays off and we have a healthy Bedard, both this year and potentially next. My gut though is saying that Bedard is not going to be a huge difference maker for us.

[SoxFanForsyth]

That's one big if.

 

Personally I hope that our attempts to push the cutting edge of the whole keeping-pitchers-healthy thing pays off and we have a healthy Bedard, both this year and potentially next.

 

It is a big if, but it was a knee strain that got him earlier this year, not his shoulder, which is a huge positive after all the problems he had the past couple seasons. I'm anxious to see how Bedard performs, and if the Sox will ease him into the rotation via a game vs CLE, or if we're going to throw him in with the wolves against NYY.

 

Personally, I think he needs another rehab type start before we can let him go into a division game. Throw him Thursday vs CLE, then bump Lester to Friday vs NYY, and we will have Lester, Lackey, and Beckett going up against the Yankees.

[a700hitter]

Our doctors seem to miss a lot. Harden must have huge holes in his rotator cuff and labrum for the Sox Doctor's to have such a concern that the FO vetoed the trade.

[AtWork]

He actually has a very good track record when it comes to medical predictions. But then again' date=' that's probably because every injury to this team has gone very badly lately.[/quote']

 

Has he ever predicted that a Red Sox player will come back from injury earlier than previously reported?

[Will617]

I'm telling you. Its time to screw the U.S medical system and switch to Voodoo.

 

Medicine is difficult.

[jacksonianmarch]

Would it be safe to assume that the troll has never predicted that a Red Sox player would be back from injury sooner than was reported and is therefor just throwing s*** at a wall and patting himself on the back when it sticks?

 

You're calling me a troll? LOL. Sorry I have been right, oh, almost every time when it comes to injuries. Almost every damn time. You know, the funny thing is, I am proven right AGAIN, and you still cannot give me credit. I went to medical school and finished residency. What are your credentials there layman?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

He's a dumbass but somehow you put with him. Anyways, you're in no position to pat yourself on the back. You're wrong A LOT too. Earlier in this thread you stated CC will not be leaving NY which I agree but you remember the Cliff Lee sweepstakes. The situation is different but everyone thinks CC will stay. Everyone thought Lee would go to the Yankees and ended up going...

[a700hitter]

You're calling me a troll? LOL. Sorry I have been right' date=' oh, almost every time when it comes to injuries. Almost every damn time. You know, the funny thing is, I am proven right AGAIN, and you still cannot give me credit. I went to medical school and finished residency. What are your credentials there layman?[/quote']He holds the record for most TalkSox reincarnations after permanent bans.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's a dumbass but somehow you put with him. Anyways' date=' you're in no position to pat yourself on the back. You're wrong A LOT too. Earlier in this thread you stated CC will not be leaving NY which I agree but you remember the Cliff Lee sweepstakes. The situation is different but everyone thinks CC will stay. Everyone thought Lee would go to the Yankees and ended up going...[/quote']

 

I am wrong about as much as everyone else when it comes to player transactions or performance. Injuries are my forte, well, it should be. I get paid to fix them up and diagnose them

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

He holds the record for most TalkSox reincarnations after permanent bans.

 

2) Trying to stir up controversy out of every little thing

 

3) Member that has been ignored the most.

[a700hitter]

2) Trying to stir up controversy out of every little thing

 

3) Member that has been ignored the most.

Formidable credentials.

[AtWork]

2) Trying to stir up controversy out of every little thing

 

3) Member that has been ignored the most.

 

Thank you for the input a700.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Me: "a700 can you tell me what AtWork said? It says this message is hidden because AtWork is on your ignore list."

 

A700: " Wait me too!"

 

Me: "Wait so we can just f*** with him and he'll look like a dumbass responding?

 

A700: "Pretty much :lol:"

 

Me: "Haha come here and lets do the umad with our hands...1...2...3"

 

Both: http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8476/newnz.gif