2010 AL Gold Glove Winners

[VA Sox Fan]

American League Gold Gloves

 

Catcher: Joe Mauer (Twins)

First base: Mark Teixeira (Yankees)

Second base: Robinson Cano (Yankees)

Shortstop: Derek Jeter (Yankees)

Third base: Even Longoria (Rays),

Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners), Carl Crawford (Rays), Franklin Gutierrez (Mariners)

Pitcher: Mark Buehrle (White Sox)

 

NL winners announced tomorrow.

 

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Jetsey?? Give me an fk'n break :thumbdown

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

f*** Teixiera, f*** Cano and f*** Jeter.

 

That is all.

[Spudboy]

American League Gold Gloves

 

Catcher: Joe Mauer (Twins)

First base: Mark Teixeira (Yankees)

Second base: Robinson Cano (Yankees)

Shortstop: Derek Jeter (Yankees)

Third base: Even Longoria (Rays),

Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners), Carl Crawford (Rays), Franklin Gutierrez (Mariners)

Pitcher: Mark Buehrle (White Sox)

 

NL winners announced tomorrow.

 

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Jetsey?? Give me an fk'n break :thumbdown

 

I have nothing against Jeter. But I don't understand his selection.

[jacksonianmarch]

American League Gold Gloves

 

Catcher: Joe Mauer (Twins)

First base: Mark Teixeira (Yankees)

Second base: Robinson Cano (Yankees)

Shortstop: Derek Jeter (Yankees)

Third base: Even Longoria (Rays),

Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners), Carl Crawford (Rays), Franklin Gutierrez (Mariners)

Pitcher: Mark Buehrle (White Sox)

 

NL winners announced tomorrow.

 

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Jetsey?? Give me an fk'n break :thumbdown

 

Agree on Cano. Agree on Teixeira. Jeter is not a gold glove caliber SS. He's barely an adequate SS, and that is debatable

[Divinity]

f*** Teixiera' date=' f*** Cano and f*** Jeter .[/quote']

 

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[RedSoxfanforlife305]

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No, I mean it make sense to like when the Yankees win something good when I'm a Red Sox fan.

 

They do deserve it but I'm still not going to be happy for them.

[Cocos Disciples]

...and three votes for Rafael Palmeiro.

 

This award is such a joke.

[Keeper]

Jeter is really the only questionable pick. And by questionable, I mean wtf. I probably would have given Daric Barton the GG for first base and Alexei Ramirez the GG for shortstop.

[Divinity]

With Jeter reputation comes before reality

[VA Sox Fan]

I have nothing against Jeter. But I don't understand his selection.

 

Same here. More from the Globe:

 

Notes: The Red Sox have gone two years without a winner. ... These are voted on by the managers and coaches. ... Jeter winning is a bit comical considering he's simply not a very good shortstop and is arguably one of the worst given his lack of range. UZR is not necessarily an accurate stat for one season. But he was seventh in the AL among qualifying shortstops. Jeter did not get a single vote in the Fielding Bible Awards, which reflect much more statistically driven opinion. And those guys vote 10 spots. ... Prepare for much outrage over the Jeter pick but I doubt Rawlings or MLB will change the rules. It's a ridiculous, flawed process and has been for a while.

 

Beyond Jeter, I can't argue with any of the picks. Daric Barton probably had a better year than Teixeira and Franklin Gutierrez wasn't as good in 2010 as he was in '09. I'd have voted for Austin Jackson.

[redsoxrules]

Derek Jeter ? lol

[Palodios]

Even Jacko thinks Jeter's defense is not GG caliber... wow. You know what? This award is a good thing. It means he'll cost the Yankees even more when they resign him for an incredibly player-friendly deal this month.

[Divinity]

Even Jacko thinks Jeter's defense is not GG caliber... wow. You know what? This award is a good thing. It means he'll cost the Yankees even more when they resign him for an incredibly player-friendly deal this month.

 

Its no secret Jeter's defense is average at best this stage in his career, I think Jeter himself and anyone who follows baseball knows he didn't deserve it. The Yankees are already going to overpay Jeter but I doubt this GG award that he didn't deserve will.

[Dipre]

Jeter with a GG? Lol. Everyone from statheads to people who watch Yankee games know he's not a very good shortstop. The GG awards are a joke.

 

Matthew Leach on the subject:

 

ST. LOUIS -- Two years ago this week, Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina picked up the first Gold Glove Award of his already accomplished young career. When Molina got to hold the trophy two months later, he unleashed a smile with the wattage of a Times Square video board.

 

In short, those two nuggets tell you nearly everything you need to know about Gold Gloves -- what's right and what's wrong with the venerable awards.

 

Within the game, they still matter -- and they matter a lot. Molina treasures his status as a Gold Glover, as does just about anyone else who has won one. This year's honorees, who will be announced on Tuesday and Wednesday, will know they're part of a special club. But the process for handing out the awards is a mess.

 

By the time Molina won his first, he'd been widely acclaimed as the National League's best defensive catcher, if not the best in all of baseball, for at least two seasons. He'd been waiting to be recognized, even though his standing was not a secret or really even a question. But for whatever reason -- because he hadn't hit enough, because more experienced players were easier to remember, who knows -- he didn't win until his fourth full season.

 

Maybe it was sweeter for the waiting, and it's not as though Molina has been deprived since. When this year's National League winners are announced on Wednesday, he'll be a heavy favorite to bring home the hardware for a third time. But while other awards can be controversial, few, if any, of the others are derided for inappropriate choices as often as Gold Gloves are.

 

 

One joke goes that Gold Gloves are like Supreme Court appointments: They're hard to get, but once you have them, they're for life. Another often-heard wisecrack is that a given player didn't hit well enough to win a Gold Glove. Lines like that wouldn't have caught on if they didn't have an element of truth.

 

As one of baseball's most cherished honors, the Gold Glove deserves a better selection process. It deserves voters who see the candidates more often and watch them more closely, and it deserves voters who are more open to newer ways of looking at defense.

 

This is not to suggest that coaches and managers, the current voting body, don't take their responsibilities seriously. Without a doubt, they do. But you can be dedicated and still not be the best equipped. That's the case when it comes to coaches and managers. They're not in the best position to make the evaluation.

 

Besides, alternatives exist. The Baseball Writers' Association of America could participate. An independent panel, such as the one that determines the Fielding Bible awards, could weigh in. Even a combination of players and coaches would likely yield better results than keeping the voting strictly to coaching staffs.

 

Coaches and managers watch their own teams closely, but they watch opponents strategically -- and in many cases, only occasionally. With the unbalanced schedule, a coach only sees some opponents five or six times a year. At some positions, there's no guarantee that he'll see a given player get more than a few defensive chances. The schedule can even set up so that two teams are finished playing before July arrives.

 

That's without getting into the fact that you'd be hard-pressed to find a more traditional group of baseball observers than coaches and managers. The BBWAA sometimes takes heat for its reluctance to adopt newer ways of thinking about the game, but BBWAA voters are miles ahead of most uniformed personnel when it comes to such matters.

 

And defense is the area where you need the most information to make an informed decision. At this point, it's pretty easy to get the right call when you're talking about who pitched or hit best in a given season. The fine distinctions can be argued, but we pretty much know what constitutes a good hitter or pitcher.

 

Who played defense the best? That's much tougher. There's no one answer.

 

You do have to trust your eyes. All but the most hardcore statheads will acknowledge that. Scouts' views have a place, too. Some traditional numbers -- such as a catcher's caught-stealing numbers, to name one example -- have value. And advanced metrics must be part of any serious conversation.

 

But good luck getting anywhere by trying to ask a manager or coach to consider plus-minus or ultimate zone rating. It's not what they've been taught. It's not how they're wired. So they're not going to consider those potentially very valuable evaluation techniques in casting a vote.

 

Again, that's not to suggest that the eyeball evaluation of a veteran baseball man or woman doesn't have value. Undoubtedly it does -- but it must be augmented. Coaches' voting has given us such results as Rafael Palmeiro winning a Gold Glove while barely playing any first base, and Nate McLouth winning largely because of an impressive play in the All-Star Game.

 

We don't know everything about evaluating defense, but we know a lot more than we did even a decade ago. It's time to restore the honor of the Gold Gloves by having a voting body that considers that knowledge when it casts its ballots.

 

Gold Gloves need a better voting process.

 

It's beating a dead horse, but i agree with almost everything he says.

[jacksonianmarch]

Its no secret Jeter's defense is average at best this stage in his career' date=' I think Jeter himself and anyone who follows baseball knows he didn't deserve it. The Yankees are already going to overpay Jeter but I doubt this GG award that he didn't deserve will.[/quote']

 

He is not average IMO. His range has slowed to statue. The only good thing about his D is that he still has an accurate arm and his very solid hands make good on the balls he can reach.

[italstallianion]

The funny thing is, unlike most awards, we can't yell at the writers association for f***** this one up.

[Divinity]

He is not average IMO. His range has slowed to statue. The only good thing about his D is that he still has an accurate arm and his very solid hands make good on the balls he can reach.

 

yeah his range is only getting worse, "below average" would've been more accurate, I fully support moving him to 3B and having A Rod DH full time in 2012

[Spudboy]

Its no secret Jeter's defense is average at best this stage in his career' date=' I think Jeter himself and anyone who follows baseball knows he didn't deserve it.[b'] The Yankees are already going to overpay Jeter but I doubt this GG award that he didn't deserve will.

[/b]

 

What???

[italstallianion]

I think that he means that even though Jeter didn't deserve the GG, it won't serve to raise Jeter's paycheck, as the Yankees are already going to overpay him.

[Divinity]

yeah ital got it, i suppose i should have said "will increase the price"" to make it clearer. lol

[italstallianion]

I'm wondering if some report is going to come out tomorrow that they opened up the wrong envelope in the shortstop category for the GG.

[italstallianion]

I sure hope that someone got fired for this atrocity. I haven't seen a bigger f*** up of an award since Taylor Swift won the best video award over Beyonce.

[SCM33]

At least Jeter played the position and won the award.

 

Rafael Palmeiro was a DH who won the 1B award a few years back.

 

Jeter might be the worse defensive SS in the AL. Its just a popularity contest.

[jacksonianmarch]

yeah his range is only getting worse' date=' "below average" would've been more accurate, I fully support moving him to 3B and having A Rod DH full time in 2012[/quote']

 

He'll be at SS through his 3000th hit, I can promise you that one. After that, though, there arent too many milestones ahead of him that are in reach. He isnt reaching Rose, that's for sure. SO after the 3000th hit, I wouldnt be surprised if they start experimenting. I think we have our future SS in house in Nunez and wouldnt be surprised to start seeing Jeter in the OF or at DH more often than not. But I do agree, ARod is under contract for another 7 yrs at ridiculous money, so we need to maximize our longevity there and moving him to a part time DH wouldnt be a horrible idea

[Will617]

I'm not surprised anymore at how badly voters miss the mark on awards, regardless of which ones. At least the BBWAA have been making better decisions the past few years.

[redsoxrules]

He'll be at SS through his 3000th hit' date=' I can promise you that one. After that, though, there arent too many milestones ahead of him that are in reach. He isnt reaching Rose[/b'], that's for sure. SO after the 3000th hit, I wouldnt be surprised if they start experimenting. I think we have our future SS in house in Nunez and wouldnt be surprised to start seeing Jeter in the OF or at DH more often than not. But I do agree, ARod is under contract for another 7 yrs at ridiculous money, so we need to maximize our longevity there and moving him to a part time DH wouldnt be a horrible idea

 

I actually think he has a shot , it all depends till how old he wants to play for and if he dosent mind playing for another team

If he can play full time without injuries till the age of 42 , he has a shot

 

he's 36 at the moment and just shy of 3000 , if he can average 175 hits for the next 6 years he would be at 4000 at age 42 , and you know if he reaches that , a team will certainly pay for his services for the attraction to break Pete's record

[whitesox901]

Alexei Ramirez should of won.