Midseason Draft Semis: #2 YRTB vs #3 divinity

[yrtb]

YRTB's Bronx Bombers

 

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto

2B Robinson Cano

3B Evan Longoria

SS Alexei Ramirez

RF Nelson Cruz

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez

DH Paul Konerko

 

Lineup

 

1. Carlos Gonzalez

2. Alex Rios

3. Evan Longoria

4. Joey Votto

5. Nelson Cruz

6. Paul Konerko

7. Robinson Cano

8. Carlos Santana

9. Alexei Ramirez

 

Rotation

 

1. Adam Wainwright

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks

5. Tim Hudson

 

Bullpen

 

LR Ervin Santana

MR Sergio Romo

MR Mike Adams

MR Matt Guerrier

SU Evan Meek

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

Bench

 

Jason Bay OF

John Buck C

Casey McGahee Util

Luke Scott 1B, OF

 

Multiple Scorgasms

 

C Victor Martinez

1B Miguel Cabrera

2B Ben Zobrist

3B Alex Rodriguez

SS Elvis Andrus

RF Ichiro Suzuki

CF Matt Kemp

LF Shane Victorino

DH Ryan Howard

 

Lineup

 

1. Ichiro Suzuki

2. Ben Zobrist

3. Miguel Cabrera

4. Alex Rodriguez

5. Ryan Howard

6. Victor Martinez

7. Matt Kemp

8. Shane Victorino

9. Elvis Andrus

 

Rotation

 

1. CC Sabathia

2. Stephen Strasburg

3. Andy Pettitte

4. Matt Garza

5. Javier Vazquez

 

Bullpen

 

LR Kris Melden

MR Dan Wheeler

MR Ryan Franklin

SU Brian Fuentes

SU Francisco Rodriguez

CL Brian Wilson

 

Bench:

 

Johnny Damon (LF)

BJ Upton (CF)

Ty Wigginton (1B,2B,3B )

AJ Burnett (SP)

Mike Napoli (1B, C)

 

My explanation for why I think you should vote for me:

 

The hitting is very close, though divinity's might be slightly better, but I have better starters from 1-5, and pitching wins championships. I think my bullpen is better than his as well

[yrtb]

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto

2B Robinson Cano > Ben Zobrist

3B Evan Longoria > A-Rod

SS Alexei Ramirez push Elvis Andrus

RF Nelson Cruz

CF Alex Rios push Matt Kemp

LF Carlos Gonzalez > Shane Victorino

DH Paul Konerko

 

1. Adam Wainwright > CC Sabathia

2. David Price > Stephen Strasburg

3. Mat Latos > Andy Pettitte

4. John Danks > Matt Garza

5. Tim Hudson > Javier Vasquez 8-4 yrtb

 

LR Ervin Santana

MR Sergio Romo > Dan Wheeler

MR Mike Adams > Ryan Franklin

MR Matt Guerrier (n/a)

SU Evan Meek > Brian Fuentes

SU Hong Chi Kuo push K-Rod

CL Andrew Bailey > Brian Wilson 12-5 yrtb

 

Bench

 

Jason Bay OF

John Buck C > Mike Napoli (backups catcher's primary job is to play good defense, and napoli didn't start at the beginning of this year because he is so bad defensively)

Casey McGahee Util > Ty Wigginton

Luke Scott 1B, OF

 

Anyways, I think divinity has a slightly better lineup but I have a better rotation and pen, and pitching wins championships

[bsox0407]

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto

2B Robinson Cano > Ben Zobrist

3B Evan Longoria = A-Rod

SS Alexei Ramirez

RF Nelson Cruz

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez > Shane Victorino

DH Paul Konerko

 

1. Adam Wainwright = CC Sabathia

2. David Price > Stephen Strasburg

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks

5. Tim Hudson > Javier Vasquez 8-4 Divinity

 

LR Ervin Santana

MR Sergio Romo > Dan Wheeler

MR Mike Adams

MR Matt Guerrier (n/a)

SU Evan Meek > Brian Fuentes

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

NO NEED for Bench Ytrb could sweep bench and still not win nor tie.

[Divinity]

How is Longoria better then A Rod?

 

Evan Longoria:

 

Last 3 years

HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

2008 27 85 46 122 7 0 .272 .343 .531 .874

2009 33 113 72 140 9 0 .281 .364 .526 .889

2010 15 72 59 96 15 3 0 .286 .371 .486 .858

 

Alex Rodriguez :

 

Last 3 years Team

 

HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

2008 35 103 65 117 18 3 .302 .392 .573 .965

2009 30 100 80 97 14 2 .286 .402 .532 .933

2010 21 97 45 76 4 3 .268 .338 .492 .829

 

Overall Alex beats Evan in everything.

More HR's, RBI's, SB's, higher AVG, OBP, SLG, and OPS

They're about equal on defense.

[yrtb]

In 2008 Longoria was just starting, he's improved year to year and now is playing better than A-Rod, who isn't what he was 2 years ago. And they're not near equal on defense, last year Longoria had the highest UZR of all position players and won a gold glove

 

But I'll change that to a push, I didn't know how much A-Rod was better in 2008

 

And bsox, how is Garza better than Danks?

[italstallianion]

I don't have the time to do a position by position analysis, as I'm on vacation in NH and have very limited computer access, but right now I'd have to go with Ytrb's team. (I'll do a position by position analysis when I get back next week if anyone is still interested)

 

In any event, the offense and bullpen are reasonably close, with Ytrb taking the bullpen and Divinity taking the offense. The difference is the rotation, where it seems like Divinity's Yankee bias led him to overdraft a lot of Yankee starters, which worked heavily towards his demise. Ytrb (in my opinion) has the best 1-5 rotation in the entire league, and sweeps Divinity's rotation 1-5, which would earn him my vote.

 

With that said, I think we should do a 3rd place match, just because a lot of these semifinal matchups are extremely close.

[suns]

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto

2B Robinson Cano > Ben Zobrist

3B Evan Longoria = A-Rod

SS Alexei Ramirez

RF Nelson Cruz

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez > Shane Victorino

DH Paul Konerko

 

1. Adam Wainwright = CC Sabathia

2. David Price > Stephen Strasburg

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks >Matt Garza

5. Tim Hudson > Javier Vasquez 8-5 Divinity

 

LR Ervin Santana

MR Sergio Romo > Dan Wheeler

MR Mike Adams

MR Matt Guerrier (n/a)

SU Evan Meek > Brian Fuentes

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

[yrtb]

2-2

[yrtb]

SS Alexei Ramirez

1. Adam Wainwright = CC Sabathia

3. Mat Latos

MR Mike Adams

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

These are the ones I disagree with

 

Andrus has sucked this year, Ramirez is a 5 tool player

 

Wainwright is favorite for NL Cy Young, CC isn't really even in Cy Young running this year, and Wainwright has had much better numbers this year and last

 

Pettitte wasn't good the last two years, he's been good this year but Latos has been better, Latos wasn't good last year because it was his rookie season

 

Mike Adams has had the better ERA/WHIP numbers this year and last, and Franklin isn't suited for middle relief, he's a closer

 

Hong Chi Kuo's ERA is below 1, he's had the better ERA/WHIP this year, last, and 2008

 

Bailey has had the better ERA/WHIP this year and last

[RobiForMVP]

Wow Brian Wilson isn't better then Bailey...

 

Anyways I like YRTB's team.

[RobiForMVP]

Oh and Waino > CC...why is everyone hating on Waino, IMO he's 3rd or 4th best pitcher in league.

[italstallianion]

Oh and Waino > CC...why is everyone hating on Waino' date=' IMO he's 3rd or 4th best pitcher in league.[/quote']

 

 

I'd put Wainwright even higher than that.

[yrtb]

I think Wainwright has a great shot at NL Cy Young this year

[Divinity]

SS Alexei Ramirez

1. Adam Wainwright = CC Sabathia

3. Mat Latos

MR Mike Adams

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

These are the ones I disagree with

 

Andrus has sucked this year, Ramirez is a 5 tool player

 

 

 

Wainwright is favorite for NL Cy Young, CC isn't really even in Cy Young running this year, and Wainwright has had much better numbers this year and last

 

 

 

Pettitte wasn't good the last two years, he's been good this year but Latos has been better, Latos wasn't good last year because it was his rookie season.

 

 

 

 

if andrus sucked why was he on the all star team?

 

Wainwright would certainly see a turn in numbers if he pitched in the AL East like Sabathia. not to mention CC was fantasic in the playoffs last year and the year before all while pitching on short rest.

 

Pettitte is the pitcher with the most post season wins in history. he still gets it done when it matters most.

[Divinity]

I vote my team should win this matchup, my offense is considerably stronger while theres not a huge difference between the pitching.

[yrtb]

One postseason is a rather small sample size and Pettitte is not the pitcher he used to be, his stats are due for a correction in that his BABIP has been ridiculously low (near .250) and his FIP as of late June(corrected ERA when BABIP is valued in) is 3.73

 

And is making the all star team a good measure of how good a player is? Yeah, Omar Infante is a hell of a lot better than Joey Votto and Carlos Gonzalez

 

Elvis Andrus is batting .273 with no homers, the only thing he's doing well is stealing bases

[Divinity]

Elvis is a push with Alexei, and a good fit for my team as 9th in the lineup, pretty good avg with alot of speed

[yrtb]

.273 isn't a pretty good average, and I put it as a push. Even if you consider CC and Wainwright even, Latos has been absolutely dominant, he's been the best pitcher in his entire division this year, the whole sneezing think was just an excuse for the team to limit his innings

 

And that doesn't explain how Franklin > Adams, K-Rod than Kuo, and Brian Wilson than Andrew Bailey. You have the better lineup, but I have the better rotation and bullpen, and pitching wins championships

[Divinity]

that doesn't explain how Franklin > Adams, K-Rod than Kuo, and Brian Wilson than Andrew Bailey. You have the better lineup, but I have the better rotation and bullpen, and pitching wins championships

 

 

Wilson is a push to Bailey in my opinon

 

in 2009 Bailey had 26 SV 1.84 ERA, Wilson had 38 SV 2.74 ERA

in 2010 Bailey has 20 SV 1.56 ERA, Wilson has 33 SV, 2.06 ERA

 

 

Overall you're pitching is slightly better and my offense is certainly better. Offense players are on the field everyday while specific pitchers have much less time on the field. Implying Offense isn't as important to pitching is false, otherwise people would just use there first 4 picks on Ace's. I don't expect you to see it my way since you want your own team to win. so we can agree to disagree

[Jasonbay44]

I am going to go with YRTB here, this is an extremely close match up, but I got with YRTB due to pitching advantage. I prefer Divinitys lineup but I think the difference in YRTBs pitching in my opinion would give him the win.

[yrtb]

I advance