Midseason Draft Round 1: #4 whiskeybreath vs #5 jasonbay44

[yrtb]

Peoria Distillers

 

C - Yadier Molina

1B - Mark Teixeira (S)

2B - Dustin Pedroia

3B - Scott Rolen

SS - Troy Tulowitzki

RF - Justin Upton

CF - Colby Rasmus (L)

LF - Ryan Braun

DH - Kendry Morales (S)

 

Bench

 

UTIL - Chone Figgins (S)

3B - Mark Reynolds

CF - Jacoby Ellsbury

C - Buster Posey

CF - Franklin Gutierrez

 

Lineup

 

1. Dustin Pedroia

2. Troy Tulowitzki

3. Ryan Braun

4. Mark Teixeira (S)

5. Justin Upton

6. Kendry Morales (S)

7. Scott Rolen

8. Colby Rasmus (L)

9. Yadier Molina

 

Rotation

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Dan Haren

3. Francisco Liriano (L)

4. Tommy Hanson

5. Cole Hamels (L)

 

Bullpen

 

LR - Wandy Rodriguez

MR - Jonny Venters (L)

MR - Leo Nunez

SU - Rafael Soriano

SU - Luke Gregerson

CL - Mariano Rivera

 

Jbay44

 

C: Miguel Olivo

1B: Albert Pujols

2B: Ian Kinsler

3B: Placido Polanco

SS: Marco Scutaro

RF: Jayson Werth

CF: Andrew McCutchen

LF Nick Markakis

DH Nick Swisher

 

Bench:

3B/1B: Pedro Alvarez

C: Jose Molina

OF: Andres Torres

Erick Aybar

Omar Infante

 

Lineup

 

1. Andrew McCutchen

2. Nick Swisher

3. Ian Kinsler

4. Albert Pujols

5. Jayson Werth

6. Nick Markakis

7. Miguel Olivo

8. Placido Polanco

9. Marco Scutaro

 

Rotation

 

1. Felix Hernandez

2. Johan Santana

3. Clayton Kershaw

4. Shaun Marcum

5. Anibal Sanchez

 

Bullpen

 

LR: CJ Wilson

MR: Kyle McClellan

MR: Darren O'Day

SU: Matt Thornton

SU Daniel Bard

CL Jonathan Broxton

 

Message from whiskeybreath, who will not be on until Monday and votes himself:

 

I feel like my team can beat jasonbay44 for many reasons.

 

First of all I think my starting pitching is better. Starters 1-3 are pretty even, although I give the edge to my #3 man Liriano. Kershaw is young and walks a lot of hitters. #4-5 startes is a clear advantage for my squad.

 

I also think I have a better pen. I have the best closer in the game with very strong setup men.

 

He has a pretty good offense but lacks a ton of pop after Pujols and Werth. My offense 1-8 does it all with a very solid catcher in Yadier Molina hitting 9th. I also think his lineup could be ordered better.

 

To end it, I think I have the superior defense and bench. His defense is very good, I'm a fan of it but where I think I win out is in the infield.

 

The End, lol sorry if that was long. I've had a few drinks and im out to log off. Be back monday nite.

[yrtb]

C - Yadier Molina push Miguel Olivo

1B - Mark Teixeira (S)

2B - Dustin Pedroia > Ian Kinsler

3B - Scott Rolen > Placido Polanco

SS - Troy Tulowitzki > Marco Scutaro

RF - Justin Upton

CF - Colby Rasmus (L)

LF - Ryan Braun > Nick Markakis

DH - Kendry Morales (S) > Nick Swisher 5-3

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Dan Haren

3. Francisco Liriano (L)

4. Tommy Hanson push Shaun Marcum

5. Cole Hamels (L) > Anibal 6-7

 

LR - Wandy Rodriguez

MR - Jonny Venters (L) > Kyle McClellan

MR - Leo Nunez

SU - Rafael Soriano push Matt Thornton

SU - Luke Gregerson

CL - Mariano Rivera > Jon Broxton 8-10

 

Winner of bench takes 2 points

 

UTIL - Chone Figgins (S) > Pedro Alvarez

3B - Mark Reynolds > Erick Aybar

CF - Jacoby Ellsbury > Andres Torres

C - Buster Posey > Jose Molina

CF - Franklin Gutierrez > Omar Infante

 

Making the matchup 10-10...hmm...what to do here...I'll compare lineups I suppose

[yrtb]

1. Dustin Pedroia > McCutchen

2. Troy Tulowitzki > Swisher

3. Ryan Braun > Kinsler

4. Mark Teixeira

5. Justin Upton

6. Kendry Morales push Markakis

7. Scott Rolen > Olivo

8. Colby Rasmus push Polanco

9. Yadier Molina

 

Another tie...great

 

well, from my last breakdown, I honestly think Olivo is better than Molina, I'll give the advantage to jbay44, the hitting is extremely close and I like his rotation much better

[italstallianion]

Offense

 

Yadier Molina

Mark Teixeira

Dustin Pedroia > Ian Kinsler

Scott Rolen > Placido Polanco

Troy Tulowitzki > Marco Scutaro

Justin Upton

Colby Rasmus = Andrew McCutchen

Ryan Braun > Nick Markakis

Kendry Morales

 

Total Lineups: WhiskeyBreath 4, Jbay 4

 

 

Rotations:

 

Tim Lincecum = Felix Hernandez (difference this year balanced by difference over past 2 years)

Dan Haren

Francisco Liriano

Tommy Hanson > Shaun Marcum

Cole Hamels > Anibal Sanchez

 

Rotation: WhiskeyBreath 2, Jbay 2

 

 

Bullpen:

 

Wandy Rodriguez

Jonny Venters > Kyle McClellan

Leo Nunez

Rafael Soriano = Matt Thornton

Luke Gregerson

Mariano Rivera > Jon Broxton

 

Bullpen: WhiskeyBreath 2, Jbay 3

 

Bench:

 

Chone Figgins > Pedro Alvarez

Mark Reynolds > Erik Aybar

Jacoby Ellsbury = Andres Torres

Buster Posey > Jose Molina

Franklin Gutierrez

 

Bench: WhiskeyBreath 3, Jbay 1

 

 

Final Score: WhiskeyBreath 11, Jbay 10

[Divinity]

I don't think bench players should hold much value, let alone come to down the winner and loser of a matchup. Someone could've stacked there bench with all DH's and have the best bench statisticly yet make little sense from a team standpoint.

[italstallianion]

In all fairness, the bench can also play in a lot of games. They can also help if players get injured, and can help in righty vs. lefty matchups. I agree that in THIS scoring system, equating the bench as equal to the other parts is flawed, but in another scoring system, it may be right.

[Divinity]

In the playoffs they don't see much playing time unless its out of necessity. Anyways I suppose yrtb's approach of giving the team with a better bench 2 points total is fair enough.

[italstallianion]

I don't think bench players should hold much value' date=' let alone come to down the winner and loser of a matchup. Someone could've stacked there bench with all DH's and have the best bench statisticly yet make little sense from a team standpoint.[/quote']

 

 

And to your point, I would have taken off if the bench didn't closely cover most of the positions. That's why I tried to match up the benches based on position, ie, Whiskey's 1B vs. Jbay's 1B, Whiskey's Middle IF vs. Jbay's Middle IF etc.

 

I would have taken off if someone had all 1B/DH's on their bench.

[yrtb]

well, one of them needs one more vote to advance to the semis (whiskeybreath votes himself and jasonbay44 votes himself)

[Jasonbay44]

Do I have to compare every position like everybody else is doing or can I just give reasoning as to why I've made my vote?

[Jasonbay44]

Oh and honestly how does bench matter that much at all, especially if this is being treated like a playoff serious? The only guys on my bench who would see any time unless there was an injury would be Jose Molina for his defense and MAYBE someone like Aybar who would be pinch running, bench should matter some but it shouldn't be the deciding factor in voting.

[yrtb]

You can do either position by position or just as a whole

[Youker20]

I think bay44, i think having Pujols makes his team better. Pujols alone almost automatically makes your team good, he is best 3B in MLB.

[yrtb]

I think you meant to say best 1B in MLB, or best player in MLB

 

3-2 jbay44, next vote for him wins it for him

[Divinity]

I vote jbay44, better team overall

[yrtb]

jasonbay44 advances