Midseason Draft Round 1: #2 YRTB vs #7 Suns

[yrtb]

YRTB's Bronx Bombers

 

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto

2B Robinson Cano

3B Evan Longoria

SS Alexei Ramirez

RF Nelson Cruz

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez

DH Paul Konerko

 

Lineup

 

1. Carlos Gonzalez

2. Alex Rios

3. Evan Longoria

4. Joey Votto

5. Nelson Cruz

6. Paul Konerko

7. Robinson Cano

8. Carlos Santana

9. Alexei Ramirez

 

Rotation

 

1. Adam Wainwright

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks

5. Tim Hudson

 

Bullpen

 

LR Ervin Santana

MR Sergio Romo

MR Mike Adams

SU Evan Meek

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

Bench

 

Jason Bay OF

John Buck C

Casey McGahee Util

Luke Scott 1B, OF

Matt Guerrier RP

 

Suns

 

C Joe Mauer

1B Billy Butler.

2B Jose Lopez

3B Michael Young

SS Jose Reyes

RF Jose Tabata

CF Josh Hamilton

LF Adam Jones

DH Vladimir Guerrero

 

Lineup

 

1. Jose Reyes

2. Adam Jones

3. Josh Hamilton

4. Vladimir Guerrero

5. Michael Young

6. Billy Butler

7. Jose Lopez

8. Joe Mauer

9. Jose Tabata

 

BE: Matt Weiters

BE: Asdrubal Cabrera

BE: Alfonso Soriano

BE: Jhonny Peralta

BE: Austin Kearns

 

Rotation

 

1. Ubaldo Jimenez

2. Justin Verlander.

3. Jered Weaver

4. Ricky Nolasco

5. Carl Pavano

 

Bullpen

 

LR Carlos Zambrano

MR Chad Qualls

MR Frank Herrman

SU J.J. Putz

SU Chris Perez

CL Heath Bell

[yrtb]

C Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto >> Billy Butler

2B Robinson Cano >> Jose Lopez

3B Evan Longoria > Michael Young 5-2

SS Alexei Ramirez push Jose Reyes

RF Nelson Cruz >> Jose Tabata

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez >> Adam Jones

DH Paul Konerko push Vladimir Guerrero 9-3

 

1. Adam Wainwright > Ubaldo Jimenez

2. David Price > Justin Verlander

3. Mat Latos push Jered Weaver

4. John Danks >> Ricky Nolasco

5. Tim Hudson > Carl Pavano 14-3

 

LR Ervin Santana > Carlos Zambrano

MR Sergio Romo >> Chad Qualls

MR Mike Adams > Frank Herrman

SU Evan Meek > JJ Putz

SU Hong Chi Kuo > Chris Perez

CL Andrew Bailey push Heath Bell 20-3

 

I win in an absolute blowout, my pitching, starting and relief, absolutely dominates his, he doesn't beat me in a single matchup there, my hitting is better as well, he only beats me at catcher and CF there. His lineup has a speedy #1 and some solid power hitter 3-6, but mine has speed all over it, with a lot of 5 tool players like Evan Longoria, Carlos Gonzalez, Joey Votto, Nelson Cruz, and Alex Rios, and I have power 1-7 and a lot of speed scattered through the lineup

 

My defense also dominates, UZR is a sabermetric stat that values range of a player in comparison to other players of their position and the plays they make, a + UZR is the number of runs that player has saved with their defense. Over the last couple of years, Evan Longoria, Alexei Ramirez, Nelson Cruz, Alex Rios have had UZR's through the roof. Robinson Cano is having a gold glove caliber season, Carlos gonzalez is playing a good left field, joey votto is improving at first base, and Carlos Santana has thrown out a good percentage of runners from the plate

 

Overall, I think my team wins this matchup by a lot

[italstallianion]

Are we factoring benches into the equation?

[yrtb]

I factor in benches only if it's an extremely close matchup and I don't really factor it in much, maybe a couple points either way

[Jasonbay44]

I think this is really close due to Suns having a great rotation, but I'm going to go with YRTB due to his lineup and bullpen advantage.

[italstallianion]

I'd normally do a position by position analysis, but I'll save it for a closer battle. In this case, Ytrb has the better team.

[suns]

WAINWRIGHT BETTER THAN JIMENZ!?!

[suns]

Carlos Santana

1B Joey Votto >> Billy Butler

2B Robinson Cano >> Jose Lopez

3B Evan Longoria

SS Alexei Ramirez

RF Nelson Cruz >> Jose Tabata

CF Alex Rios

LF Carlos Gonzalez

DH Paul Konerko

 

1. Adam Wainwright

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks push Ricky Nolasco

5. Tim Hudson

 

LR Ervin Santana > Carlos Zambrano

MR Sergio Romo >> Chad Qualls

MR Mike Adams > Frank Herrman

SU Evan Meek > JJ Putz

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

I win because I have the speed in my lineup, the power, and pitching and the bullpen.

He has a catcher is batting in the .240 range and isn't that good defensively...Joe mauer is good at both defense and average. Adam Jones is good hitter so my 2-6 are all good power hitters with my leadoff guy a speedy one. Carl Pavano had back back back to back CGs earlier in the season...Heath Bell is one of the reasons the Padres are winning close games...Chris Perez has been good all year and part of last. I think I dominate this matchup. This is the past 2 years so Jered Weaver dominates Mat Latos.

[italstallianion]

Screw it, here we go.

 

 

Carlos Santana

Joey Votto > Billy Butler

Robinson Cano > Jose Lopez

Evan Longoria > Michael Young

Alexei Ramirez

Nelson Cruz > Jose Tabata

Alex Rios

Carlos Gonzalez > Adam Jones

Paul Konerko

 

Total Offense: Ytrb 5, Suns 4

 

Starting Pitching:

 

Adam Wainwright > Ubaldo Jimenez

David Price > Justin Verlander

Mat Latos = Jered Weaver

John Danks > Ricky Nolasco

Tim Hudson > Carl Pavano

 

Total Starting Pitching: Ytrb 4, Suns 0

 

 

Bullpen:

 

Ervin Santana

Sergio Romo > Chad Qualls

Mike Adams > Frank Hermann

Evan Meek > JJ Putz

Hong Chi Kuo > Chris Perez

Andrew Bailey

 

Total Bullpen: Ytrb 4, Suns 2

 

 

 

Total Ytrb 13, Suns 6 (Although technically, it's 14-5)

[yrtb]

Suns, have you been doing too much DOPE?

 

3B Evan Longoria

SS Alexei Ramirez

LF Carlos Gonzalez

DH Paul Konerko

 

1. Adam Wainwright

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

4. John Danks push Ricky Nolasco Nolasco sucks

5. Tim Hudson

SU Hong Chi Kuo

CL Andrew Bailey

 

So, based on all the clear mistakes Suns has made, one can conclude that he is both extremely biased, and has been lighting it up

[yrtb]

WAINWRIGHT BETTER THAN JIMENZ!?!

 

Look at some stats buddy

 

Wainwright

 

* W-L 17-6

* ERA 1.99

* K 158

* Walks 42

* WHIP 0.97

 

Jimenez

 

* W-L 17-3

* ERA 2.55

* K 143

* Walks 64

* WHIP 1.11

 

Wainwright owns everything other than losses, mainly because Jimenez gets a ton of run support

[suns]

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

 

Stop being a homer.

THE RULES SAY THE LAST 2 YEARS

I shouldn't have been this low, I got cheated out.

[italstallianion]

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

 

Stop being a homer.

THE RULES SAY THE LAST 2 YEARS

I shouldn't have been this low, I got cheated out.

 

 

 

Sorry Suns, your team just isn't that good. You started off well and surprised some people but you tanked towards the end. Granted, it looks worse since Youker isn't in the draft, and you're against one of the best teams, but no matter who you faced, you weren't going to win this thing. Your team is decent, it's just not good enough for a seemingly 8 team league.

[suns]

Sorry Suns' date=' your team just isn't that good. You started off well and surprised some people but you tanked towards the end. Granted, it looks worse since Youker isn't in the draft, and you're against one of the best teams, but no matter who you faced, you weren't going to win this thing. Your team is decent, it's just not good enough for a seemingly 8 team league.[/quote']

 

If my team played his team on Proggressive Field in real life, we would blow his team out.

[yrtb]

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

 

Stop being a homer.

THE RULES SAY THE LAST 2 YEARS

I shouldn't have been this low, I got cheated out.

 

Well, you could've been the 6 seed, but there were 5 teams clearly better than yours

 

And you only addressed 2 of the 10+ clear bias mistakes you made

 

And Verlander's ERA has never been below 3, Price's is, last year he was still developing, if you average last year and this he's still better than verlander, who is extremely inconsistent start to start

 

And last year Latos didn't even pitch a full season, everything I've seen about him on ESPN thinks he's the real deal, Weaver is good too, but Latos has been better

 

Anyways, these weren't the worst. The Carlos Gonzalez and Evan Longoria ones were extremely stupid

[yrtb]

If my team played his team on Proggressive Field in real life' date=' we would blow his team out.[/quote']

 

I have a better lineup, rotation, and bullpen...how would you blow me out

[Jasonbay44]

3B Evan Longoria

 

Is this serious?

[RobiForMVP]

2. David Price

3. Mat Latos

 

Stop being a homer.

THE RULES SAY THE LAST 2 YEARS

I shouldn't have been this low, I got cheated out.

Sorry I couldn't finish but can I still vote? Oh and you are retarded, if it's last 2 years how is Ubaldo > Waino and Young > Longo?

[RobiForMVP]

And how is Pavano > Hudson, and Danks = Nolasco? Hudson is like top 15 pitcher. YRTB's team is way better, IMO

[italstallianion]

Robi, if it makes you feel better, I still voted you ahead of Youker.

[yrtb]

haha I would put you above him too

[suns]

The only reason yrtb didn't add benches is because he knew my bench was way better than his.

[yrtb]

You're an idiot, I won by so much benches wouldn't matter, and fine, just to make you happy

 

Jason Bay OF > Soriano

John Buck C > Wieters

Casey McGahee Util > Cabrera

Luke Scott 1B, OF >> Peralta

Matt Guerrier RP can't compare with Austin Kearns

 

Soriano sucks now, Cabrera sucks, Peralta sucks, Wieters hasn't proved he can his MLB pitching well, and Kearns is on the bench

[suns]

You're an idiot, I won by so much benches wouldn't matter, and fine, just to make you happy

 

Jason Bay OF > Soriano

John Buck C > Wieters

Casey McGahee Util > Cabrera

Luke Scott 1B, OF >> Peralta

Matt Guerrier RP can't compare with Austin Kearns

 

Soriano sucks now, Cabrera sucks, Peralta sucks, Wieters hasn't proved he can his MLB pitching well, and Kearns is on the bench

 

That is mostly wrong..Mcgahee better than ZZ? No way

Soriano is better than Bay

[yrtb]

Soriano is a hazard on defense, and is completely one sided, Bay doesn't have a lot of HR, but hits a lot of doubles in roomy Citi Field and was much better than Soriano last year...I'll give you a push on that

 

And McGahee has 18 HR...Asdrubal has not hit this year at all...

[bsox0407]

Offense: 5-3 Suns

 

SP: 2-2

 

Bullpen: 4-2 Suns

 

11-7 Suns

[bsox0407]

Soriano is a hazard on defense, and is completely one sided, Bay doesn't have a lot of HR, but hits a lot of doubles in roomy Citi Field and was much better than Soriano last year...I'll give you a push on that

 

And McGahee has 18 HR...Asdrubal has not hit this year at all...

 

Bench goes to Suns too.

 

Soriano ten time over Bay. Bay has like what 5 HRS.

 

Wieters is a really good catcher better than Buck

 

I give you Ytrb Scott and McGahee

 

But Guerrier is a pitcher not a bench player so that goes to Suns with Kearns

 

3-2 Suns on the bench.

[yrtb]

Kearns doesn't even start on his team, he sucks, Wieters is batting .241 this year, But is batting .277 with double the amount of homers

[yrtb]

Offense: 5-3 Suns

 

SP: 2-2

 

Bullpen: 4-2 Suns

 

11-7 Suns

 

Where are these numbers coming from?

[italstallianion]

Kearns doesn't even start on his team' date=' he sucks, Wieters is batting .241 this year, But is batting .277 with double the amount of homers[/quote']

 

 

 

I think bsox means that Bench should actually mean Bench, not pitchers. In other words, if you wanted an extra pitcher, he should be in the bullpen.

 

To be honest, I agree there. I think that the bench means hitters. So in the case of a tiebreaker, I'd give it to the hitter.

 

(Not like this match needs a tiebreaker)