7/25 @ Mariners

[alphilip77]

Lineups

 

Boston

1. M. Scutaro, SS

2. J. Drew, RF

3. D. Ortiz, DH

4. K. Youkilis, 1B

5. A. Beltre, 3B

6. J. Hermida, LF

7. M. Cameron, CF

8. B. Hall, 2B

9. D. Brown, C

 

Seattle

1. I. Suzuki, RF

2. C. Figgins, 2B

3. F. Gutierrez, CF

4. J. Lopez, 3B

5. J. Smoak, DH

6. C. Kotchman, 1B

7. M. Saunders, LF

8. R. Johnson, C

9. J. Wilson, SS

 

Matsuzaka (7-3, 4.29 ERA) v Fister (3-6, 3.56 ERA)

[alphilip77]

Dopey fresh Dice-K mojo=WIN

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nzC-CcvFD0Q/S6wMvL8LXcI/AAAAAAAAAYE/bUZfPIAo9HI/s1600/dicek.jpg

[yeszir]

Go team

[Palodios]

Whenever Dice-k gets into a good pitching streak like he has been lately, people usually expect a meltdown is coming. And since he thoroughly enjoys defying all expectations at all times, and is completely surprising, he may actually end up pitching well tonite. But since I'm expecting him to do well... its circular logic. I have no clue.

[yeszir]

Whenever Dice-k gets into a good pitching streak like he has been lately' date=' people usually expect a meltdown is coming. And since he thoroughly enjoys defying all expectations at all times, and is completely surprising, he may actually end up pitching well tonite. But since I'm expecting him to do well... its circular logic. I have no clue.[/quote']

 

It's gonna be ugly.

 

Reverse lock? I dunno.

[Spudboy]

Whenever Dice-k gets into a good pitching streak like he has been lately' date=' people usually expect a meltdown is coming. And since he thoroughly enjoys defying all expectations at all times, and is completely surprising, he may actually end up pitching well tonite. But since I'm expecting him to do well... its circular logic. I have no clue.[/quote']

 

Well said. That's what makes him an enigma and so frustrating to watch. I'm not a fan of his.

I've given up on expecting him to make a significant contribution to the Sox.

 

However, I continue to hope that he will have a run of really good performances. I know he can be lights out, or close to it. Maybe the new pre-game routine will continue to assure that he is effective.

 

By the way, I read an article a few days ago that got me thinking. Over the last three years, Beckett and Dice have nearly identical stats and records. Weird. I'm conflicted.

[Palodios]

Spudboy, do you remember where that article is ? I read it last week, but would like to dig it up and can't find it.

[Yaz Sideburn]

hopefully daisuke continues to pitch well. he could be quite an asset down the stretch

[Spudboy]

Spudboy' date=' do you remember where that article is ? I read it last week, but would like to dig it up and can't find it.[/quote']

 

Most likely Boston.com. It may have been the Herald. But it was written by one of the better known Boston columnists. Sorry. I think I saw it Thursday or Friday.:dunno:

[Yaz Sideburn]

the last 3 years

 

beckett 49-23, 3.71 era

daisuke - 37-21, 4.00 era

[Spudboy]

I just spent 20 minutes searching for the article. "No-Dice". Hahahaha!

 

The gist of the article was that the stats for both were remarkably similar. W/L, ERA, WHIP, IP/Start were nearly identical.

[Palodios]

I just spent 20 minutes searching for the article. "No-Dice". Hahahaha!

 

The gist of the article was that the stats for both were remarkably similar. W/L, ERA, WHIP, IP/Start were nearly identical.

 

Thanks, I found it at Boston Herald. I feel like I'm constantly trying to defend Dice-k so maybe this one will help a little bit.

 

 

http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/20100725no_craps_in_daisuke_matsuzaka_rolls/

[Spudboy]

the last 3 years

 

beckett 49-23, 3.71 era

daisuke - 37-21, 4.00 era

 

Hmmm. Maybe I misquoted the years or the author cherry picked or posted incorrect stats.

 

I don't f***ing know!::dunno:

[Spudboy]

Maybe it was the last 4? Or 2007-2009?

[Palodios]

Yaz just quoted 2007-2009, ignoring 2010. That's probably why his numbers are different. Beckett and Dice-k both got here in 2007, so the article compares all their time here.

 

Edit, Beckett got here in 2006, my bad, but it still makes the most sense to compare their 2007-2010 numbers. I'm working on it now.

[Spudboy]

Thanks, I found it at Boston Herald. I feel like I'm constantly trying to defend Dice-k so maybe this one will help a little bit.

 

 

http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/20100725no_craps_in_daisuke_matsuzaka_rolls/

 

That's not it.

[Palodios]

I did some math, and this is what I came up with for 2007-2010. I think this is about right.

 

Dice-k 44-24, 509.1 IP, 4.05 ERA, 5.92 IP per start, 474 K, 8.5 K/9

Beckett 50-24, 638.2 IP, 3.95 ERA, 6.52 IP per start, 610 k, 8.6 K/9

 

Whip I didn't do the math for, but Dice-k is 1.33, and Beckett is around 1.2. The only significant difference is IP per start, and wins-- although Dice might have had more wins if he stayed later into games. I also ignored Beckett's mediocre 2006 numbers.

[Spudboy]

Ugh...

 

I'm sorry I brought it up! And I'm sorry that I can't provide the link.

[Palodios]

Don't worry about it, it took five minutes. I only had to do Beckett's, since Dice-k's career numbers and 2007-2010 are the same. But its interesting to consider.

[italstallianion]

It's nice to score 2 runs, but we had guys on the corners with nobody out, and Hermida lines out and Cameron strikes out.

[ORS]

Two IF lineouts in that inning is unfortunate, which right in line with the theme of this season.

[Spudboy]

It's nice to score 2 runs' date=' but we had guys on the corners with nobody out, and Hermida lines out and Cameron strikes out.[/quote']

 

At least they showed SOME life.

 

2-1 Sox.

 

Non-related, The NESN feed is showing some really spectacular shots of the Seattle area.

 

What a f***ing beautiful back drop. I love New England, but wow, that is dramatic.

[Dipre]

I did some math, and this is what I came up with for 2007-2010. I think this is about right.

 

Dice-k 44-24, 509.1 IP, 4.05 ERA, 5.92 IP per start, 474 K, 8.5 K/9

Beckett 50-24, 638.2 IP, 3.95 ERA, 6.52 IP per start, 610 k, 8.6 K/9

 

Whip I didn't do the math for, but Dice-k is 1.33, and Beckett is around 1.2. The only significant difference is IP per start, and wins-- although Dice might have had more wins if he stayed later into games. I also ignored Beckett's mediocre 2006 numbers.

 

Dice-K 07-10 WHIP: 1.38

 

Beckett 07-10 WHIP: 1.21

 

Dice-K's WHIP is horrible, but then again, he's Dice-K.

[Palodios]

Ortiz with an infield hit. That always gives me a chuckle.

[Palodios]

Dice-K 07-10 WHIP: 1.38

 

Beckett 07-10 WHIP: 1.21

 

Dice-K's WHIP is horrible, but then again, he's Dice-K.

 

WHIP has affected his IP, which may affect his wins. But besides that, he's very very similar to Beckett.

[Spudboy]

Hermida made a good play. Most excellent.

[Yaz Sideburn]

not the best start from daisuke, but he got away with it because it's seattle lol

[CoachC.]

wow okajima, not even getting an out onn that bunt

[Spudboy]

Bases juiced and no outs.

 

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

[Spudboy]

Game ovah.