J.D. DREW NOT WORTH IT

[p3arljam]

Am i the only one who thinks Drew is a waste of time. This guy is the highest paid position player per year and he knocks in 65 runs a year i dont get why they picked up his option this year. I would rather see Hermida get a shot i cant stand anymore of Drew.

[Dojji]

A knee-jerk Drew bashing thread. Never seen one of those before.

[ORS]

He is a waste of time. I saw him spinning the minute hand of a clock the other day with his finger. He must have forwarded that clock about 2 hours in 2 minutes. What a waste of time.

 

Oh, and, option?

[p3arljam]

Dojji you think Drew has been worth 14 million over the last 3 years. 2007 11HR 64RBI 2008 19HR 64RBI and 2009 24HR and 68RBI and not to mention missing 98 games.

[VA Sox Fan]

Am i the only one who thinks Drew is a waste of time. This guy is the highest paid position player per year and he knocks in 65 runs a year i dont get why they picked up his option this year. I would rather see Hermida get a shot i cant stand anymore of Drew.

 

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[Dipre]

Excellent thread.

 

Drew sucks!!111!!!!111.

[VA Sox Fan]

Dojji you think Drew has been worth 14 million over the last 3 years. 2007 11HR 64RBI 2008 19HR 64RBI and 2009 24HR and 68RBI and not to mention missing 98 games.

 

Eddie Vedder sucks BTW:lol:

[yeszir]

You guys want popcorn? I brought popcorn.

[p3arljam]

Eddie Vedder rocks you must be a republican

[WhiskeyBreath]

You guys want popcorn? I brought popcorn.

 

You have booze? This thread makes me want liquor.

[Dojji]

Dojji you think Drew has been worth 14 million over the last 3 years. 2007 11HR 64RBI 2008 19HR 64RBI and 2009 24HR and 68RBI and not to mention missing 98 games.

 

I'm past caring about the drew hate. He's worth his roster spot, the money isn't a big deal. The pious pretension to parsimony is absolutely hilarious from any fan of the freaking Red Sox.

[Jasonbay44]

JD Drew is a disgrace to baseball, him and his career .391 OBP fail. The job isn't to get on base, its to hit homers and get RBI! Trade him for a guy who gets homers and RBI like Jose Guillen, now he is a beast.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

JD Drew is overrated. Good, but overrated. But not as overrated as that hack of a band Pearl Jam. They are the Nickelback of the early 90's. Except instead of singing about getting drunk and f***ing, like nickelback does, they basically wrote emo s***.

[Emmz]

Put down the robitussin.

[Emmz]

JD Drew is overrated. Good' date=' but overrated. But not as overrated as that hack of a band Pearl Jam. They are the Nickelback of the early 90's. Except instead of singing about getting drunk and f***ing, like nickelback does, they basically wrote emo s***.[/quote']

 

 

NO PEARL JAM FOR YOU!!!!!

[jacksonianmarch]

I was just wondering if we could evaluate the merits of JD Drew just one more time. I don't think we went over this enough

[VA Sox Fan]

I was just wondering if we could evaluate the merits of JD Drew just one more time. I don't think we went over this enough

 

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Dojji you think Drew has been worth 14 million over the last 3 years. 2007 11HR 64RBI 2008 19HR 64RBI and 2009 24HR and 68RBI and not to mention missing 98 games.

You're f***ing stupid. Leave the site.

[YeAuldBroade]

I don't think Drew is overrated, I just think he's overpaid. I like the guy... not as much as some of you do obviously, I mean no tattoos or anything. The fans need to just forget about his contract and then JD won't chap their ass so much.

[Gom]

I don't think Drew is overrated' date=' I just think he's overpaid. I like the guy... not as much as some of you do obviously, I mean no tattoos or anything. The fans need to just forget about his contract and then JD won't chap their ass so much.[/quote']

 

This post pretty much sums it all up.

 

On a side note, I love Aussie chicks. My first puppy love was an Aussie.

[callandor1000]

I agree that J.D. Drew is not worth the money. I'm the type of person who is always thinking about whether or not something is worth the money. It doesn't even have to be something that I'm purchasing or am interested in purchasing. Someone else could be buying it. Dollar value is something I uncontrollably rate.

 

That being said, J.D. Drews monetary value to the Sox is not what bothers me the most about him. I dislike the way he plays the game, honestly. He goes to do a job and that is really it. You rarely see a personality other than coldness from him. And its not even that coldness that some guys are famous for. The deep, intense coldness. I like a guy who brings personality to a team. I just don't see him helping the chemistry of the team. I also don't see him hurting the chemistry, either. I just like something more from the players on the teams I cheer for (selfish of me, I know).

 

Back to his value. I think all the time what we might have had a chance at getting instead of J.D. Drew. Maybe we would have gotten Texeira if we didn't have money tied up in Drew. Maybe this year they might have gone and gotten Granderson. But when it all comes down to it, going into the 2007 season, despite the front office situation being a mess, we got a bunch of guys (Drew included) and changed our offensive and defensive (not pitching) outlook completely in a way that won us a World Series.

 

Drew isn't the type of hitter that strikes fear into pitchers. He doesn't light up your clubhouse or fans. He plays solid defense. He doesn't sweat mistakes or missed opportunities. He just goes out and plays (well when he doesn't have a sore back or pulled hamstring). Something more could be desired in his conditioning, thats for certain. But for the most part, and this is what shines for him, he's consistent over the course of a season.

 

It's no use gripping about Drew. We have him. It's doubtful we could move his contract. We have decent depth in the outfield now but long term outlook is uncertain so picking up his option isn't bad.

 

 

 

Side note. Did anyone hear about A-Rod? He got arrested last night for sucking off Justin Bieber.

[Dipre]

I agree that J.D. Drew is not worth the money. I'm the type of person who is always thinking about whether or not something is worth the money. It doesn't even have to be something that I'm purchasing or am interested in purchasing. Someone else could be buying it. Dollar value is something I uncontrollably rate.

 

Under what grounds you make this claim?

 

That being said, J.D. Drews monetary value to the Sox is not what bothers me the most about him. I dislike the way he plays the game, honestly. He goes to do a job and that is really it. You rarely see a personality other than coldness from him. And its not even that coldness that some guys are famous for. The deep, intense coldness. I like a guy who brings personality to a team. I just don't see him helping the chemistry of the team. I also don't see him hurting the chemistry, either. I just like something more from the players on the teams I cheer for (selfish of me, I know).

 

You don't like "The way he plays?" that has absolutely no bearing on what determines whether or not he's worth his contract: Production.

 

Chemistry? How exactly do you measure the "chemistry" of the team, and how does Drew "not help it"? Shoving traveling secretaries and getting into fights with teammates f***s up chemistry. Putting their head down, shutting their mouths and playing the game is what players are supposed to do, and it helps team chemistry, or at least so it would logically seem.

 

Back to his value. I think all the time what we might have had a chance at getting instead of J.D. Drew. Maybe we would have gotten Texeira if we didn't have money tied up in Drew. Maybe this year they might have gone and gotten Granderson. But when it all comes down to it, going into the 2007 season, despite the front office situation being a mess, we got a bunch of guys (Drew included) and changed our offensive and defensive (not pitching) outlook completely in a way that won us a World Series.

 

Drew isn't the type of hitter that strikes fear into pitchers. He doesn't light up your clubhouse or fans. He plays solid defense. He doesn't sweat mistakes or missed opportunities. He just goes out and plays (well when he doesn't have a sore back or pulled hamstring). Something more could be desired in his conditioning, thats for certain. But for the most part, and this is what shines for him, he's consistent over the course of a season.

 

And all of this is just baseless conjecture.

 

Sorry, not buying it.

 

It's no use gripping about Drew. We have him. It's doubtful we could move his contract. We have decent depth in the outfield now but long term outlook is uncertain so picking up his option isn't bad.

 

 

 

There is no option. How can you so confidently talk about a player's value if you don't know the details of his contract?

[rhet]

Please, please don't undersell Drew.

He's the best 8-hole hitter in baseball, hands down.

Seriously.

[Dipre]

Please, please don't undersell Drew.

He's the best 8-hole hitter in baseball, hands down.

Seriously.

 

He's not the best, hands down. Some other eight hitters might get more RBI's. And you know RBI's are the stuff of legend.

[rhet]

He's not the best' date=' hands down. Some other eight hitters might get more RBI's. And you know RBI's are the stuff of legend.[/quote']

 

I doubt any have higher run production than Drew from the 8-hole.

[Dipre]

I doubt any have higher run production than Drew from the 8-hole.

 

But Drew sucks.

[rhet]

But Drew sucks.

 

Please, please don't undersell Drew.

He's the best 8-hole hitter in baseball, hands down.

Seriously.

[Dipre]

Please, please don't undersell Drew.

He's the best 8-hole hitter in baseball, hands down.

Seriously.

 

You really think so? :thumbsup:

[callandor1000]

Under what grounds you make this claim?[/Quote]

 

Umm... I do this in my head. When I'm out with someone, even if I don't like them, I'm always thinking about what they buy and if I think they're getting a good value. I don't judge people on it. Its something I can't help but doing and I don't share this. As a matter of fact, you all are the only ones who know this.

 

You don't like "The way he plays?" that has absolutely no bearing on what determines whether or not he's worth his contract: Production. [/Quote]

 

Yes, it does. Major League Teams are basically trying to sell their brand to fans. That is the oversimplified reason for their existence. If I don't like how I see a player on a team play the game, that negatively impacts my view of the Sox and how I value their brand. I still love the Sox, but I just don't like J. D. Drew. Its not just the way he plays, or the fact that he gets paid above league average for his peer group (though he's kind of between peer groups in terms of talent and production), but I look at his face and want to punch it. I can't help it. I think he's an *******, just looking at him. Maybe I'm an *******, but hey, I'm being honest about it.

 

Chemistry? How exactly do you measure the "chemistry" of the team, and how does Drew "not help it"? Shoving traveling secretaries and getting into fights with teammates f***s up chemistry. Putting their head down, shutting their mouths and playing the game is what players are supposed to do, and it helps team chemistry, or at least so it would logically seem.

 

And all of this is just baseless conjecture.

 

Sorry, not buying it.[/Quote]

 

Team chemistry can't tangibly be measured, I know. And I'm willing to admit, I could be wrong. All I can go on is what I hear in articles and see in games. And what I see and read, as I definitely stated is that J.D. Drew does not hurt team chemistry. I don't think he helps it. I mean, he's just kind of there, to play mostly when he feels like it. He's not the type to really play when hurt, to tough anything out, or appear to give more than what he feels he has to. I like a player who shows clearly that he goes the extra mile. I want a guy who is capable of respecting his job, knowing that its a job but also of loving his job and loving baseball. I personally don't get that feel from J.D. Drew.

 

This is all my opinion, and without a doubt, conjecture. I didn't think I needed to state that. I guess I actually have to state when I'm just giving my opinion. I mean, we've had this talk before, you and I. But, I didn't think I actually had to pull out my stamp (it says "callandor's opinion") each time I clearly, without a shadow of a doubt, offered solely my opinion. I mean... can you like... read between the lines of anything? Not that you have to read between the lines of my reply to this main thread. It's apparent.

 

There is no option. How can you so confidently talk about a player's value if you don't know the details of his contract?

 

That was my bad. I almost didn't even reply to that aspect. Then I decided "what the hell, I'll put down a little something". Only when you mentioned something, did I think "Hey, now that you mention it, I don't recall anything about an option". Then I looked it up, and sure enough, you are right. My bad. I was consumed by my dislike for J.D. Drew. He could have mentioned something about J.D. Drew killing teletubies on live TV and I would have condemned him for that, too. Sorry.

 

I understand that J.D. Drew gets paid $14 million a year to give solid effort, put up slightly above average numbers and do whats asked of him and seldom (to be seen by me) more. I might not have the intricacies of his contract ingrained in my mind, my bad, but I do understand the effect and value of his contract.

[Dipre]

Umm... I do this in my head. When I'm out with someone' date=' even if I don't like them, I'm always thinking about what they buy and if I think they're getting a good value. I don't judge people on it. Its something I can't help but doing and I don't share this. As a matter of fact, you all are the only ones who know this. [/quote']

 

Interesting but fair enough.

 

 

Yes, it does. Major League Teams are basically trying to sell their brand to fans. That is the oversimplified reason for their existence. If I don't like how I see a player on a team play the game, that negatively impacts my view of the Sox and how I value their brand. I still love the Sox, but I just don't like J. D. Drew. Its not just the way he plays, or the fact that he gets paid above league average for his peer group (though he's kind of between peer groups in terms of talent and production), but I look at his face and want to punch it. I can't help it. I think he's an *******, just looking at him. Maybe I'm an *******, but hey, I'm being honest about it.

 

In all honesty, this makes no sense. The best way to help sell your brand is to win games, which Drew helps the Sox do, stay out of controversy, which Drew helps the Sox do. How much a player makes really has no impact on how people see the brand as a whole. I think you're alone in this one.

 

 

Team chemistry can't tangibly be measured, I know. And I'm willing to admit, I could be wrong. All I can go on is what I hear in articles and see in games. And what I see and read, as I definitely stated is that J.D. Drew does not hurt team chemistry. I don't think he helps it. I mean, he's just kind of there, to play mostly when he feels like it. He's not the type to really play when hurt, to tough anything out, or appear to give more than what he feels he has to. I like a player who shows clearly that he goes the extra mile. I want a guy who is capable of respecting his job, knowing that its a job but also of loving his job and loving baseball. I personally don't get that feel from J.D. Drew.

 

Do you know Drew personally? You're making an assesment based on what you see on t.v. You can't judge his "passion" for the game because he doesn't show "emotion", that's stretching to the point of breaking.

 

This is all my opinion, and without a doubt, conjecture. I didn't think I needed to state that. I guess I actually have to state when I'm just giving my opinion. I mean, we've had this talk before, you and I. But, I didn't think I actually had to pull out my stamp (it says "callandor's opinion") each time I clearly, without a shadow of a doubt, offered solely my opinion. I mean... can you like... read between the lines of anything? Not that you have to read between the lines of my reply to this main thread. It's apparent.

 

Ok, you don't like Drew. Moving on. Who would you rather have in RF?

 

That was my bad. I almost didn't even reply to that aspect. Then I decided "what the hell, I'll put down a little something". Only when you mentioned something, did I think "Hey, now that you mention it, I don't recall anything about an option". Then I looked it up, and sure enough, you are right. My bad. I was consumed by my dislike for J.D. Drew. He could have mentioned something about J.D. Drew killing teletubies on live TV and I would have condemned him for that, too. Sorry.

 

Don't doubt it.

 

I understand that J.D. Drew gets paid $14 million a year to give solid effort, put up slightly above average numbers and do whats asked of him and seldom (to be seen by me) more. I might not have the intricacies of his contract ingrained in my mind, my bad, but I do understand the effect and value of his contract.

 

He's one of the best defensive RF's in the game, and was one of the most productive offensive OF's in the game in both 2008 and 2009. The stats back that statement up. The only knock on Drew is his inability to stay on the field consistently, but when he's playing, he's upper-tier talent. Don't know how you can contend against that.