Red Sox Spring Training thread

[riverside sluggers]

No problem. And when you see spring training stats on redsox.com, it doesnt include the college games. Its still spring training regardless IMO

 

Nice to see that Ortiz's avg is all sudden at .281. He's hit 2 HRs in the past week

[Spudboy]

I don't mean to brown nose here but I think it's very nice if you to take the time to post the cumulative SP stats on Talksox.

 

While SP is what it is, it helps to see who's tanking it and who is doing OK. Especially when there is limited TV coverage.

 

Ortiz will be just fine, in my opinion. As Dipre has pointed out, Papi was able to resume his off season work-out regiment. He will probably start the regular season slowly, as he has in seasons past, but I see no reason to expect the worst. When the warm weather hits Boston, I think he'll be productive.

[jacksonianmarch]

Its 70 degrees here today. The warm weather has arrived!

 

Spud, I don't think Ortiz gets a lot of rope in the early going. If Lowell is still in house, he'll supplant Ortiz if he starts to suck again.

[riverside sluggers]

Updated stats (includes college games)

 

Batting

 

Mike Cameron- 11 for 26 (.423 avg) 4 Doubles, HR, 5 RBIs, 2 Runs, 6 Walks, 5 Ks

Jeremy Hermida- 13 for 31 (.419 avg) 2 Doubles, HR, 6 RBIs, 6 Runs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Dustin Pedroia- 14 for 38 (.368 avg) 5 Doubles, HR, 8 RBIs, 8 Runs, 2 Walks, 6 Ks

Jason Varitek- 5 for 14 (.357 avg) 3 Doubles, Run, 2 Walks, 2 Ks

Tug Hulett- 9 for 27 (.333 avg) 4 Doubles, HR, 8 RBIs, 4 Runs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Kevin Youkilis- 10 for 32 (.313 avg) 3 Doubles, HR, 6 RBIs, 3 Runs, 2 Walks, 3 Ks

Jacoby Ellsbury- 8 for 30 (.267 avg) 2 HRs, 5 RBIs, 4 Runs, 4 Walks, 8 Ks, SB

Victor Martinez, 8 for 33 (.242 avg) 3 Doubles, RBI, 4 Runs, 2 Walks

David Ortiz- 10 for 42 (.238 avg) Double, 3 HRs, 6 RBIs, 4 Runs, 5 Walks, 9 Ks

Adrian Beltre- 6 for 28 (.214 avg) RBI, Run, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

Marco Scutaro- 6 for 31 (.194 avg) Double, HR, RBI, 3 Runs, 5 Walks, 4 Ks

Bill Hall- 6 for 34 (.176 avg) 2 Doubles, 3 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 8 Ks

J.D. Drew- 4 for 26 (.154 avg) Triple, RBI, Run, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Mike Lowell, 1 for 7 (.143 avg) K

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Ray Chang- 2 for 2 (1.000 avg) HR, 3 RBIs, 2 Runs

Ryan Dent- 1 for 1 (1.000 avg) Run, Walk

Gustavo Molina- 5 for 6 (.833 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, Run, Walk

Peter Hissey- 4 for 6 (.667 avg) 2 RBIs, 2 Runs, K

Derrick Gibson- 1 for 2 (.500 avg) 2 RBIs, Run

Christopher McGuiness- 1 for 2 (.500 avg) RBI, Run, K

Matt Sheely- 2 for 4 (.500 avg) 2 Doubles, RBI, 2 Runs, Walk

Nate Spears- 3 for 6 (.500 avg) 2 Runs, Walk, K

Darnell McDonald- 7 for 15 (.467 avg) 4 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 8 Runs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks, SB

Mark Wagner- 7 for 15 (.467 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 Triples, HR, 3 RBIs, 5 Runs, Walk, K

Brett Harper- 2 for 5 (.400 avg) Double, RBI, Run, K

Ryan Khoury- 2 for 5 (.400 avg) 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, Walk, K

Josh Reddick- 15 for 39 (.385 avg) 6 Doubles, Triple, HR, 7 RBIs, 9 Runs, 2 Walks, 8 Ks

Gil Velazquez- 8 for 21 (.381 avg) 2 Doubles, 9 RBIs, 2 Runs, 3 Ks

Dusty Brown- 6 for 18 (.333 avg) Double, 4 RBIs, Run, 2 Walks, 2 Ks

Jose Iglesias- 4 for 12 (.333 avg) Double, HR, 6 RBIs, 3 Runs, K

Oscar Tejeda- 1 for 3 (.333 avg) Double, RBI, 2 Runs, K

Yamaico Navarro, 7 for 23 (.304 avg) 3 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, Walk, 4 Ks

Luis Expositio- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) 2 Doubles, 4 RBIs, 3 Runs

Jeremy Hazelbaker- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) 3 Runs, 2 Walks, K

Jed Lowrie- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) Double, RBI, Run, 2 Walks, K

Bubba Bell- 2 for 7 (.286 avg) Double, 3 Runs, 4 Walks, 2 Ks

Ryan Kalish- 4 for 15 (.267 avg) 2 RBIs, 4 Runs, 5 Walks, 5 Ks

Che Hsuan Lin- 5 for 20 (.250 avg) Double, 4 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Daniel Nava- 1 for 4 (.250 avg) RBI, 2 Runs, K

Angel Sanchez- 7 for 32 (.219 avg) Triple, 5 RBIs, 3 Runs, 5 Walks, 4 Ks

Jorge Jimenez, 4 for 21 (.190 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

Aaron Bates- 5 for 29 (.172 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, 2 Runs, 2 Walks, 10 Ks

Jason Place- 1 for 6 (.167 avg) Double, RBI, 3 Ks

Anthony Rizzo- 1 for 7 (.143 avg) 2 Ks

Lars Anderson- 1 for 22 (.045 avg) RBI, 5 Runs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks

Ronald Bermudez, 0 for 2, K

Mitch Dening, 0 for 1

Drew Dominguez, 0 for 1

Reid Engel, 0 for 1

Ino Guerrero- 0 for 2

Alex Hassan- 0 for 3, K

William Holmes, Run

David Mailman, 0 for 3, K

Jeff Natale, 0 for 1

 

Pitching

 

John Lackey (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Ks

Manny Delcarmen (1-0, 1.29 ERA)- 7 innings, 3 Hits, Run, 3 Walks, K

Daniel Bard (1.48 ERA)- 6.1 innings, 2 Hits, Run, 7 Ks

Hideki Okajima (2.54 ERA)- 7.1 innings, 6 Hits, 2 Runs, Walk, 7 Ks

Tim Wakefield (2-1, 3.41 ERA)- 13.2 innings, 14 Hits, 5 Runs, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Jon Lester (0-2, 5.54 ERA)- 13 innings, 13 Hits, 9 Runs (8 ER), 5 Walks, 14 Ks

Josh Beckett (5.56 ERA)- 8.1 innings, 8 Hits, 5 Runs, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Jonathan Papelbon (6.34 ERA)- 7.1 innings, 7 Hits, 6 Runs (5 ER), 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Clay Buchholz (0-1, 7.06 ERA)- 10.2 innings, 11 Hits, 9 Runs (8 ER), 6 Walks, 9 Ks

Boof Bonser (1-1, 10.13 ERA)- 8 innings, 11 Hits, 9 Runs, 4 Walks, 8 Ks

Ramon Ramirez (10.50 ERA)- 6 innings, 7 Hits, 7 Runs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks

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Felix Doubront (0.00 ERA)- 8 innings, 3 Hits, 2 Walks, 6 Ks

Tommy Hottovy (0.00 ERA)- 1 inning, Hit

Casey Kelly (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 3 innings, Walk, 3 Ks

Robert Manuel (1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 3.1 innings, 2 Hits, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Chad Paronto (0.00 ERA)- 1.2 innings, Walk, K

Scott Patterson (1-0, 1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 2 innings, Walk, K

Kyle Weiland (0.00 ERA)- 3 innings, Hit, Walk, 3 Ks

Brian Shouse (1-0, 1.11 ERA)- 8.1 innings, 7 Hits, 2 Runs (1 ER), Walk, 5 Ks

Scott Atchison (1-0, 2.22 ERA)- 8.1 innings, 7 Hits, 3 Runs (2 ER), Walk, 5 Ks

Fabio Castro (2.57 ERA)- 7 innings, 6 Hits, 2 Runs, Walk, 6 Ks

Joe Nelson (1 save, 1-0, 3.38 ERA)- 8 innings, 6 Hits, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 10 Ks

Michael Bowden (1 save, 4.50 ERA)- 10 innings, 10 Hits, 6 Runs (5 ER), 3 Walks, 6 Ks

Jorge Sosa (0-1, 5.40 ERA)- 5 innings, 8 Hits, 3 Runs, 5 Ks

Fernando Cabrera (6.43 ERA)- 4.2 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs, 2 Walks, 4 Ks

Ramon A. Ramirez (1-1, 7.26 ERA)- 6.2 innings, 9 Hits, 5 Runs, 7 Walks, 3 Ks

Randor Bierd (8.57 ERA)- 2.1 innings, 4 Hits, 3 Runs (2 ER), 3 Ks

Junichi Tazawa (1 save, 9.00 ERA)- 8 innings, 10 Hits, 8 Runs, Walk, 7 Ks

Dustin Richardson (12.27 ERA)- 2.2 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs, Walk, K

Adam Mills (0-1, 20.25 ERA)- 4 innings, 12 Hits, 10 Runs (9 ER), Walk, 3 Ks

T.J. Large (22.50 ERA)- 1.2 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs

Kris Johnson (0-1, 27.00 ERA)- 1 inning, 4 Hits, 3 Runs

Ryne Miller (27.00 ERA)- 1 inning, 2 Hits, 3 Runs, 2 Walks

[TheMino007]

When could we see Dice-K in some ST games? Last I heard he was pitched two inninngs in a minor league game

[bsox0407]

When could we see Dice-K in some ST games? Last I heard he was pitched two inninngs in a minor league game

 

it is supposed to be sometime this week.

[Dipre]

Did you see that play Adrian Beltre made the other day? Beyond spectacular, wasn't it? Now, you do you realize that we're going to be repeating that phrase time and again through the summer, provided he stays healthy and remembers to wear a cup? I'm telling you, gang, this pitching and defense thing is going to be as aesthetically pleasing in its own way as watching the Red Sox Home Run Derby of 2003-04, and the lineup, deep, versatile, and without the Dueling Black Holes at the bottom of the order form a season ago, is far better than conventional wisdom suggests. Man, can Opening Day hurry up and get here already?

 

From Chad Finn's column in the Boston Globe.

 

Good things. Thank the Lord.

[Palodios]

Wait, does he wear a cup now? I heard he doesn't use it because it limits him defensively. Defense is more important!

[Dipre]

Wait' date=' does he wear a cup now? I heard he doesn't use it because it limits him defensively. Defense is more important![/quote']

 

I heard he actually had one custom-made. Being a ballplayer has its perks.

[BoSox21]

I heard he actually had one custom-made. Being a ballplayer has its perks.

 

I can just imagine them making a paper mache shell of his twig & berries to form the cup.

[Dipre]

I can just imagine them making a paper mache shell of his twig & berries to form the cup.

 

LMAO.

[riverside sluggers]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/03/clay_gets_his_g.html

 

Buchholz and Swisher star in an ESPN ad together haha

[TheMino007]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1241968&format=comments#Com

 

Pedrioa sprained his wrist. He's getting X-Rays today.... thats great

[Lester82]

hey - this guy has " sources " that say Youk is on the trading block. Another reason why I hate Bleacher Report...

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368060-mlb-trade-rumors-kevin-youkilis-apparently-on-the-block

[riverside sluggers]

Dustin Pedroia will undergo an X-ray on his left wrist on Wednesday.

 

Red Sox manager Terry Francona said that Pedroia had limited swelling on the back of his wrist, though he added that he doesn't think "there's a problem." It's likely just a precautionary measure.

[Dipre]

hey - this guy has " sources " that say Youk is on the trading block. Another reason why I hate Bleacher Report...

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368060-mlb-trade-rumors-kevin-youkilis-apparently-on-the-block

 

Quite possibly one of the dumbest rumors i have read in a long, long time.

 

And kudos on the avatar. Lol George.

[Lester82]

Quite possibly one of the dumbest rumors i have read in a long, long time.

 

And kudos on the avatar. Lol George.

 

:thumbsup:

 

I was a kid in the 90's and started watching Seinfeld in re-runs... Constanza's the man.

[Dipre]

:thumbsup:

 

I was a kid in the 90's and started watching Seinfeld in re-runs... Constanza's the man.

 

The "Crying to convince my fiancee" episode was golden.

[Lester82]

Not sure i saw the episode you're referring to, i'll admit.

 

But, they just had the episode the other night on where he drives his former/almost in-laws all the way out to the end of Long Island ...as part of an attempt to pretend he was taking them to his "home" in the Hamptons. His almost in-laws hated him and knew he had no home in the Hamptons and just wanted to watch him sweat. hahaha

[BoSox21]

Not sure i saw the episode you're referring to, i'll admit.

 

It's the episode where he approaches Susan with the idea of moving back the wedding date so she starts crying uncontrollably, forcing George to do whatever it takes to put out the fire and agree to keep the date as is.

 

But then George himself starts crying in an effort to push the date back, which works, thus completely sacrificing his self-respect.

[Lester82]

It's the episode where he approaches Susan with the idea of moving back the wedding date so she starts crying uncontrollably, forcing George to do whatever it takes to put out the fire and agree to keep the date as is.

 

But then George himself starts crying in an effort to push the date back, which works, thus completely sacrificing his self-respect.

 

hahaha

 

Sounds good. i'll check it out on the DVD collection.

[BoSox21]

BTW, sources from the Globe and WEEI are saying Pedroia is fine, X-rays negative and he should play Friday.

[Dipre]

BTW' date=' sources from the Globe and WEEI are saying Pedroia is fine, X-rays negative and he should play Friday.[/quote']

 

Minor swelling in the area. We must thank the baseball Gods.

[Spudboy]

Francona say he will not play Friday. The usual precautionary stuff.

[WhiskeyBreath]

hey - this guy has " sources " that say Youk is on the trading block. Another reason why I hate Bleacher Report...

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368060-mlb-trade-rumors-kevin-youkilis-apparently-on-the-block

 

What a joke that is.

[Spudboy]

What a joke that is.

 

It does seem laughable. But what if there is something to it?

 

The author of the article made a case against it. Who knows what his motivation was when writing the article. Maybe he had to write something to earn his pay?

[Dipre]

In before Doiji:

 

A Three-Team trade in which you give up Youk plus other talent to get A-Gon is a marginal upgrade unless they get significant talent in return besides Gonzales, and it doesn't seem plausible.

[Palodios]

It doesn't exactly seem like a good idea to get rid of one of the team's top players unless they know something about an injury risk, or he's being a problem in the clubhouse. I really don't think its going to happen, although its spring training and there isn't a ton else to talk about.

 

However, what if the plan is to trade him for Cabrera, and get something else? The tigers unload a big contract without completely pissing off their fanbase, Sox get a solid first baseman and who knows what else.

[Dipre]

It doesn't exactly seem like a good idea to get rid of one of the team's top players unless they know something about an injury risk, or he's being a problem in the clubhouse. I really don't think its going to happen, although its spring training and there isn't a ton else to talk about.

 

However, what if the plan is to trade him for Cabrera, and get something else? The tigers unload a big contract without completely pissing off their fanbase, Sox get a solid first baseman and who knows what else.

 

The "What else?" would be the hold up IMO. Because money-wise, it wouldn't make a ton of sense.

[BoSox21]

In before Doiji:

 

A Three-Team trade in which you give up Youk plus other talent to get A-Gon is a marginal upgrade unless they get significant talent in return besides Gonzales, and it doesn't seem plausible.

 

I would actually take Youk over Gonzo when factoring in Youk's positional versatility