Yankees 25 man roster for 2010

[Emmz]

Binky!

[Imperial59]

He'll be good for about 100-110 games just like last year' date=' unless some freak injury happens.[/quote']

 

Hence why I asked...

 

Do you really want Francisco Cervelli starting 50+ games next year?

 

I never said anything about Posada starting less than 100 games next year. Why don't you address the point of Cervelli playing 50+ games next year rather than attacking me for something I didn't say?

[diony]

I never said anything about Posada starting less than 100 games next year. Why don't you address the point of Cervelli playing 50+ games next year rather than attacking me for something I didn't say?

 

What's so bad about it? Cervelli is not a good hitter, but it's not like he's mediocre and his defense makes up for his lack of offense. I like him.

 

Examine the lineup once again and tell me they can't afford having a light hitting catcher for 50 games (especially if they resign Damon). Above average offensive catchers like Posada are a commodity in baseball.

 

It happened last season when Cervelli/Molina combined for 67 GS and the team won 103 games.

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What's so bad about it? Cervelli is not a good hitter, but it's not like he's mediocre and his defense makes up for his lack of offense. I like him.

 

Examine the lineup once again and tell me they can't afford having a light hitting catcher for 50 games (especially if they resign Damon). Above average offensive catchers like Posada are a commodity in baseball.

 

It happened last season when Cervelli/Molina combined for 67 GS and the team won 103 games.

Not to mention Cervelli is an offense upgrade over Molina.

[Imperial59]

What's so bad about it? Cervelli is not a good hitter, but it's not like he's mediocre and his defense makes up for his lack of offense. I like him.

 

Examine the lineup once again and tell me they can't afford having a light hitting catcher for 50 games (especially if they resign Damon). Above average offensive catchers like Posada are a commodity in baseball.

 

It happened last season when Cervelli/Molina combined for 67 GS and the team won 103 games.

 

Having Cervelli and Gardner at the bottom of your lineup for 50+ games probably means you'll see a decent amount of offensive regression. I don't see the Yankees as being nearly as good offensively next year. Nick Swisher's career average is -14 points from his OPS+ last year. You're losting another 9 points of OPS+ going from Matsui to Johnson at DH (IF Johnson stays healthy). And you're losing another 13-26 OPS+ going from Damon to Granderson.

[Imperial59]

Not to mention Cervelli is an offense upgrade over Molina.

 

Cervelli has less than 100 career AB's in the majors over which he has a .648 OPS. I don't know how you could claim he'll be an improvement based on a poor offensive performance and such a small sample size.

[Imperial59]

Let's face it, the Yankees bench sucks. Not a single bench player has 70 games major league experience.

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Cervelli has less than 100 career AB's in the majors over which he has a .648 OPS. I don't know how you could claim he'll be an improvement based on a poor offensive performance and such a small sample size.

I would be an offensive improvement over Jose Molina. I'm not saying Cervelli is a great hitter, he's obviously no Joe Mauer or anything, but given a few opportunities he'll prove to be able to provide adequate offense for a backup catcher. Besides, anything he contributes with the bat is gravy.

[Imperial59]

I would be an offensive improvement over Jose Molina. I'm not saying Cervelli is a great hitter' date=' he's obviously no Joe Mauer or anything, but given a few opportunities he'll prove to be able to provide adequate offense for a backup catcher. Besides, anything he contributes with the bat is gravy.[/quote']

 

So you think he'll prove to be an adequate offensive major league player based on what, his 45 major league games?

[bsox0407]

So you think he'll prove to be an adequate offensive major league player based on what' date=' his 45 major league games?[/quote']

 

Cervelli will be a better hitter. Working with the MLB club more and becoming more comfortable with the team will help.

[Imperial59]

Cervelli will be a better hitter. Working with the MLB club more and becoming more comfortable with the team will help.

 

And this is all speculation? Or do you think his 45 MLB games is a reliable sample size?

[bsox0407]

And this is all speculation? Or do you think his 45 MLB games is a reliable sample size?

 

What do you think. Is a player in his sophomore year gonna be better than his limited role as a rookie year. 45 is to small to tell. but think about this the more action the better he will do.

[Imperial59]

What do you think. Is a player in his sophomore year gonna be better than his limited role as a rookie year. 45 is to small to tell. but think about this the more action the better he will do.

 

Sounds like more speculation to me. Not every player does better with more MLB action. He's very young and very inexperienced, he could probably use some more time in the minors.

[bsox0407]

Sounds like more speculation to me. Not every player does better with more MLB action. He's very young and very inexperienced' date=' he could probably use some more time in the minors.[/quote']

 

NO s*** its speculation. But he will get his time on the big league club and with the mentors of Posada and the big league clubs hitting coaches he will become a better player.

 

But we will see.

[Imperial59]

NO s*** its speculation. But he will get his time on the big league club and with the mentors of Posada and the big league clubs hitting coaches he will become a better player.

 

But we will see.

 

So which one is it? "He will become a better player" or "we will see"?

[bsox0407]

So which one is it? "He will become a better player" or "we will see"?

 

I think he will become a better player with the better coaching and becoming comfortable with the league.

 

Do I have to draw you a map?

[Plumpamania]

If you think Cervelli will be much more than a Josh Bard you're fooling yourself.

[Imperial59]

I think he will become a better player with the better coaching and becoming comfortable with the league.

 

Do I have to draw you a map?

 

Yes, please do.

[Dipre]

Cervelli is what he is. A solid defensive backstop with little offensive upside.

 

He'll hit a bit better than Molina, but that's like choosing between diarrhea and constipation.

[bsox0407]

Yes' date=' please do.[/quote']

 

He is not gonna be a super star but he is gonna be better than last year and that is what i am saying. With more time experience he will better.

[Imperial59]

He is not gonna be a super star but he is gonna be better than last year and that is what i am saying. With more time experience he will better.

 

Or he'll be exposed by major league pitching. He has 45 games major league experience. Just because he's getting more next year doesn't mean he's going to get better. Prospects don't progress on a neat, steady upward curve and many of them don't progress at all.

 

Cervelli's 24 and he has less than half a season under his belt above the AA level. He should probably be in AAA working on his development, not in the majors at this point.

[bsox0407]

Or he'll be exposed by major league pitching. He has 45 games major league experience. Just because he's getting more next year doesn't mean he's going to get better. Prospects don't progress on a neat, steady upward curve and many of them don't progress at all.

 

Cervelli's 24 and he has less than half a season under his belt above the AA level. He should probably be in AAA working on his development, not in the majors at this point.

 

If he was at his peak already would the Yankees have kept him the roster.

[diony]

Or he'll be exposed by major league pitching. He has 45 games major league experience. Just because he's getting more next year doesn't mean he's going to get better. Prospects don't progress on a neat, steady upward curve and many of them don't progress at all.

 

Cervelli's 24 and he has less than half a season under his belt above the AA level. He should probably be in AAA working on his development, not in the majors at this point.

 

Ok, fine. Our backup catcher sucks, the season is over.

 

If that's all you got...

[Imperial59]

Ok' date=' fine. Our [b']backup[/b] catcher sucks, the season is over.

 

If that's all you got...

 

Your entire bench sucks. And so does Brett Gardner :harhar:

[Imperial59]

If he was at his peak already would the Yankees have kept him the roster.

 

If they thought he'd develop much more, do you think they'd stunt his growth by making him the backup catcher instead of letting him play more than 20 games at AAA?

[diony]

Your entire bench sucks. And so does Brett Gardner :harhar:

 

Ouch, we got above average offensive players in 8 of 9 positions, with most of them being all-stars. But as of January 6th, the bench sucks.

 

Bashing the bench and wishing for injuries, that's when we know we got you.

[yankees228]

Your entire bench sucks. And so does Brett Gardner :harhar:

 

While playing part time when healthy, and missing time during the season, Brett Gardner produced a 2.1 WAR in 2009.

[Imperial59]

Ouch' date=' we got above average offensive players in 8 of 9 positions, with most of them being all-stars. But as of [b']January 6th[/b], the bench sucks.

 

Bashing the bench and wishing for injuries, that's when we know we got you.

 

Where did I wish for injuries?

 

Making straw man arguments. That how I know I got you. I never said that's the bench they'd go into the season with, I'm saying they have a lot of work to do. Nothing to get all worked up over, it's OK.

[bsox0407]

If they thought he'd develop much more' date=' do you think they'd stunt his growth by making him the backup catcher instead of letting him play more than 20 games at AAA?[/quote']

 

Maybe by being a backup catcher and learning from one of the smartest catchers in baseball might be better for him then sitting in the minors..

[Imperial59]

Maybe by being a backup catcher and learning from one of the smartest catchers in baseball might be better for him then sitting in the minors..

 

You think Posada is one of the smartest catchers in baseball?

 

Are you a closet Yankees fan? Jacko, is that you?