Red Sox pitching coach.

[RWTP24]

So, I was watching the Cardinals today and Smoltz was on the hill. His set up on the rubber has changed, with him moving to the right side and it seems to be helping with throwing across his body a little bit more; therefore his curve ball looks ten times better. With all of this said, is John Farrell not seeing the small things that might help get a pitcher out of a slump or just make him a better pitcher?

[BSN07]

Duncan is famous for turning guys around. He also said Smoltz was tipping his pitches and Duncan had caught on to it and told him about it. This could be a helping factor as well.

 

I believe Smoltz was just not cut out for the AL. The AL ground Smoltz into submission. I saw his start the other night and he was at 69 pitches in the 7th. When he was in Boston that might have got him through 4IP.

 

I don't know whether it's definitive, but the AL just seems to make SP work harder.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Because the lineups are better, and the NL's pitcher spot (and the usually very weak 8 batter) are both replaced by quality hitters in the AL.

[Keeper]

Duncan is famous for turning guys around.

 

This. I have the utmost respect for what Dave Duncan does to "lost causes." One of the best in the biz. I've heard he's upset with how the Cardinals handled his son, though. Might be leaving after this season. If that's the case, I would imagine La Russa will also be leaving.

[msubulldogs21]

I've heard he's upset with how the Cardinals handled his son' date=' though. Might be leaving after this season. If that's the case, I would imagine La Russa will also be leaving.[/quote']

 

Where did you hear that? Man, I hope Duncan leaves so bad. Pretty much every Cardinals fan I know (and I know a lot) nutts in their pants every time the words "Dave Duncan" are spoken.

 

I mean, clearly Duncan is a great pitching coach, but they act like he just cured AIDS.

[Paradisecity]

I mean, clearly Duncan is a great pitching coach, but they act like he just cured AIDS.

 

 

Did you SEE John Smoltz pitch for the Red Sox?

[msubulldogs21]

Did you SEE John Smoltz pitch for the Red Sox?

 

I was trying to block his entire stint with the Red Sox out of my memory. Thanks.

 

He's dominated the 2 of the 3 worst teams in baseball in the Padres and Nationals. All he needs are the Pirates now.

[SoxSport]

Duncan turned it around for Pineiro and Smoltz. Who's the guy turning it around for Penny in SF?

The Red Sox have a great FO, but their coaching may be overrated.

 

Pedro pitched great tonite for the Phillies. 7 in, 1 ER, 9K. And nobody wanted him. Buchholz should watch Pedro pitch, with that great changeup.

[msubulldogs21]

Duncan turned it around for Pineiro and Smoltz. Who's the guy turning it around for Penny in SF?

The Red Sox have a great FO, but their coaching may be overrated.

 

Pedro pitched great tonite for the Phillies. 7 in, 1 ER, 9K. And nobody wanted him. Buchholz should watch Pedro pitch, with that great changeup.

 

Dave Righetti is San Fran's pitching coach.

 

Obviously we can expect Penny to do quite a bit better in AAAA, but just because he made one good start doesn't mean he's going to continue to mow everyone down.

[Christian Snyder]

Who's the guy turning it around for Penny in SF?

I think the Giants Pitching coach is Dave Righetti?

[Dipre]

I think the Giants Pitching coach is Dave Righetti?

 

Sarcasm, young'un.

[Paradisecity]

Yeah I watched Pedro blowing hitters away with 91 on the gun (so probably 88-89).

 

His s*** would get eaten up in the AL.

[Keeper]

Yeah I watched Pedro blowing hitters away with 91 on the gun (so probably 88-89).

 

His s*** would get eaten up in the AL.

 

You don't have to throw gas to be effective in either league.

[Dipre]

You don't have to throw gas to be effective in either league.

 

Yeah.

 

But you need good stuff to get 7ip, 1 ER, 9 K lines.

[CrespoBlows]

Pedro beat the Giants last night? That should speak for itself.

[Keeper]

Not necessarily. The Giants' offense isn't exactly world-beating.

[Dipre]

Pedro beat the Giants last night? That should speak for itself.

 

Pedro's line:

 

7 ip, 1 ER, 9K.

 

9K.

[Dipre]

Not necessarily. The Giants' offense isn't exactly world-beating.

 

That's the point.

 

That's why i keep saying the NL is a joke.

 

The Pads, Giants and Pirates make the Royals look like the Yankees.

[SoxSport]

I keep hearing about that "inferior" NL. Well, the Phillies are the World Champions, and they have a damned good chance to repeat--regardless of what the media says about the Dodgers and the Yankees.Last year, they beat the Dodgers and a pretty good TB club. And they are better this year.

 

No doubt there is an adjustment necessary changing leagues. And there are a lot of guys who seem to hit or pitch better moving from the AL to the NL. More so than the reverse. And the AL seems to win the All Star games. How do you figure Pineiro winning 12-13 games this year? I don't know. Is there enough data to conclude anything? Certainly not for Smoltz and Penny.

 

If there is an imbalance, the Yankees didn't help matters this year hogging all the top FAs. LOL.

[Paradisecity]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleague_play#Wins_by_league

 

9% more wins is more than enough data for me.

 

who wins a 4 of 7....isn't.

[Dipre]

I keep hearing about that "inferior" NL. Well' date=' the[b'] Phillies are the World Champions,[/b] and they have a damned good chance to repeat--regardless of what the media says about the Dodgers and the Yankees.Last year, they beat the Dodgers and a pretty good TB club. And they are better this year.

 

No doubt there is an adjustment necessary changing leagues. And there are a lot of guys who seem to hit or pitch better moving from the AL to the NL. More so than the reverse. And the AL seems to win the All Star games. How do you figure Pineiro winning 12-13 games this year? I don't know. Is there enough data to conclude anything? Certainly not for Smoltz and Penny.

 

If there is an imbalance, the Yankees didn't help matters this year hogging all the top FAs. LOL.

 

The.Post-Season.Is.A.Crapshoot.

 

The Cards won it all in 2006 with a team that was a disrespect to playoff baseball.

[Keeper]

That's the point.

 

That's why i keep saying the NL is a joke.

 

The Pads, Giants and Pirates make the Royals look like the Yankees.

 

But the Giants have pitching. In spite of their offense, they could be dangerous in the postseason.

[Dipre]

But the Giants have pitching. In spite of their offense' date=' they could be dangerous in the postseason.[/quote']

 

We can agree about that.

 

As the '01 D'Backs proved, dual aces can make you win in the postseason, that said, however, there's no denying the Giants are a flawed team and are a 3rd place team in any AL division even with Tim and Matt, that offense wouldn't be enough in the AL.

[msubulldogs21]

The Cards won it all in 2006 with a team that was a disrespect to playoff baseball.

 

Just thinking about that '06 WS infuriates me to no end.

 

That was hands down the worst team to ever even make it to the World Series.

[ORS]

I don't care how much of a joke anyone thinks the NL is, I'm laughing at you if you think Penny's good start was because of change in leagues. The Phillies have an excellent lineup that has scored more runs than these offenses that ripped Penny to s*** in the AL (Texas, Toronto, Baltimore, Detroit).

 

If you want to ridicule the league, have at it, but at least look like you've thought about it for longer than 5 seconds when you do.

[Dipre]

I don't care how much of a joke anyone thinks the NL is, I'm laughing at you if you think Penny's good start was because of change in leagues. The Phillies have an excellent lineup that has scored more runs than these offenses that ripped Penny to s*** in the AL (Texas, Toronto, Baltimore, Detroit).

 

If you want to ridicule the league, have at it, but at least look like you've thought about it for longer than 5 seconds when you do.

 

Except for the fact that he wasn't pitching at Fenway or Yanks stadium.

 

He was pitching in the savannah that is the Giant's ballpark.

 

Penny is a flyball pitcher, so he went to the perfect stadium to get away with that.

[Dojji]

The Phillies are good enough for third place in the AL East. Even without adjusting for having to face us and the Yankees 19 times a year instead of the Mets and Nats, record and run differential would dictate that they wouldn't make the playoffs if they were an American League team.

 

The pitching performance they've put together is remarkable and Any other division they'd probably run away with, but the AL East would daunt them.

[Dipre]

The Phillies are good enough for third place in the AL East. Even without adjusting for having to face us and the Yankees 19 times a year instead of the Mets and Nats, record and run differential would dictate that they wouldn't make the playoffs if they were an American League team.

 

The pitching performance they've put together is remarkable and Any other division they'd probably run away with, but the AL East would daunt them.

 

But still, the Phillies are a pretty good team, but Penny's performance against them was definitely stadium-helped.

[Dojji]

It's worth remembering though that the standard for Penny is lowered not just by the park but by the quality of competition, and it's a real difference. Especially because the Phillies, good enough for third place in the AL East, are among the toughest teams he'll face.

[ORS]

Except for the fact that he wasn't pitching at Fenway or Yanks stadium.

 

He was pitching in the savannah that is the Giant's ballpark.

 

Penny is a flyball pitcher, so he went to the perfect stadium to get away with that.

You could, you know, look that up, right?

 

Park Factors

[table]Park|R|HR|H|2B|3B

Fenway|1.073|0.902|1.004|1.362

AT&T|1.049|0.926|1.009|1.025

[/table]

 

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