Wake on DL, Buchholz called up

[jacksonianmarch]

some resident's lives are like that, but I remain faithful to my wife. But what I know remains in my brain and goes nowhere else

[BSN07]

I can't believe no one used "Mate" or even "Bro" LOL

 

a700, to posters who are new to you, it does look like your contradicting yourself. You did call guys like Bowden and Masterson bottom of the barrel type guys for the rotation. Then said you wouldn't want to trade any of them with Buchholz for Hanley. Those guys are probably thinking to themselves, "trading 1 high potential SP and a couple bottom of the barrel guys looks like a steal for Hanley?"

 

But I've been around you a little more and if I had to make a guess at what you really think. I would say the fact you wouldn't trade them for Hanley proves you don't believe them to be "bottom of the barrel" type pitchers. You just have trust issues with guys who don't have proven track records in the Majors. Hence your preference of ML veteran players, over young more unproven skillful players.

 

But who knows, I could be missing the boat by a mile;)

[BoSox21]

FTR, I think its a phantom injury. I called for this move when Smoltz came back to keep Wakefield healthy for the stretch run. I doubt this would've been done had Buch been lit up on Friday.

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

I know I'm going to take a beating for this but I hope I'm right about the end result of this move.

 

We are such a weak hitting team right now. It's the second half of the season and it's wicked hot in Texas. These are the games where we needed Timmy the most over his career and he couldn't get out of the second inning. Don't get me wrong I think Wakefields the best 5th starter in the game. However in crunch time we've seen this guy melt down. Maybe a little young blood is just what this team needs right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

But what I know remains in my brain and goes nowhere else

I hope for your sake that's the case.

[The_Destroyah]

Wake goin on the DL could honestly point to the sox making a move of some sort, i dunno maybe Wake is really hurt but i see it as a way to rest Wake and at the same time show case Buscholtz.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wake had to have another cortisone injection and is suffering from sciatica. Essentially, he has inflammation around the sciatic nerve coming out of the sciatic notch. The inflammation is severe enough to where he has lost strength in his calf. This is something that could keep him out for some time and eventually may require a procedure.

[SoxSport]

What's disturbing is Wake has these type injuries mid-term every year now, and he is never any good the 2nd half when he comes back.

[jacksonianmarch]

and therein lies the issue. You have two legit starters who are rollin in Beckett and Lester. After that, you have 3 guys who either dont throw strikes (Buchholz) or throw too many in the wrong location (Smoltz and Penny). And right now, it doesnt look like the reinforcements are coming any time soon.

[Dojji]

Pretty much even though the knuckleball isn't as hard on his arm as it is on other pitchers, playing baseball is still just about as hard for him as anyone else, and he is getting older.

 

I wouldn't take it as a guarantee that we see Wakefield back next year.

[Dojji]

and therein lies the issue. You have two legit starters who are rollin in Beckett and Lester. After that' date=' you have 3 guys who either dont throw strikes (Buchholz) or throw too many in the wrong location (Smoltz and Penny). [b']And right now, it doesnt look like the reinforcements are coming any time soon[/b].

 

Bowden has been effective in AAA this year, and Tazawa was just promoted there. We have the ability to "go young" at any time.

[jacksonianmarch]

you can go young, but that by no means insinuates that you will improve your current production. Going young down a stretch run against teams like NY, Tampa and Texas is not a good way to go unless the players are so good that they just cannot miss (a la Chamberlain, Papelbon, or Price in yrs past).

[a700hitter]

you can go young' date=' but that by no means insinuates that you will improve your current production. Going young down a stretch run against teams like NY, Tampa and Texas is not a good way to go unless the players are so good that they just cannot miss (a la Chamberlain, Papelbon, or Price in yrs past).[/quote']It is a recipe for losing.

[THE ARS]

...I wouldn't take it as a guarantee that we see Wakefield back next year.

 

Or this year.

 

Didn't we have too much pitching a few weeks ago?

 

 

Tom

[jacksonianmarch]

Wake to have a rehab start on Friday and then might be back next week. If anyone watched the game today, they showed a clip of Tim covering first today. Not pretty

[Cocos Disciples]

^Yup. It made Mike Lowell look like Jesse Owens.

[BoSox21]

If anyone watched the game today' date=' they showed a clip of Tim covering first today. Not pretty[/quote']

 

Have you seen how he's walked from the mound to the dugout for the last five years?

[The_Destroyah]

Wake isnt really known for his agility Jacko lol.

[cobra24]

So, that is two really good starts from Buchholz in a row. i have heard that some people are not very hi on him. what do you guys think?

[BoSox21]

So' date=' that is two really good starts from Buchholz in a row. i have heard that some people are not very hi on him. what do you guys think?[/quote']

 

he could be figuring it out and I think he might be

[cobra24]

he could be figuring it out and I think he might be

 

 

i hope so.. he look pretty good yesterday. if i remember right be made one mistake.

[Dojji]

Wake isnt really known for his agility Jacko lol.

 

But he's usually known as a pretty decent fielder. even if he does walk like he's in his 40's now.

[BSN07]

He's looked good his last two outings. Hopefully he has turned a corner. This will all be valuable experience for him. It should really help his 2010.

[cobra24]

does anyone see Buchholz staying up if he is still pitching well when Dice K and Wake come back? i really do not trust Penny.

[Dojji]

I'm not convinced Daisuke is back before rosters expand.

[BSN07]

I'm not convinced Daisuke is back before rosters expand.

 

This^^

 

The only thing Buchholz has to worry about is making the post season roster.

[Dojji]

So, question: Daisuke doesn't return before September 1 but he is lights out when he does get back. Is he postseason eligible or not?

[ORS]

Yes. He was on the roster at some time during April-August.

[TheKilo]

I thought the rule was he had to be on the 25-man roster or on the DL come September 1.

 

Either way, he's eligible.

[ORS]

That is the rule. Since the discussion was about Matsuzaka needing to come off the DL before 9/1, I was referring to the fact that he'd been on the 25-man during the April-August timeframe, thus making him eligible if he comes back after 9/1.