Right handed hitters better than Manny:

[rhet]

List them, one at a time...

 

1. Albert Pujols

2.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

2005 Manny

[Dojji]

Bonds.

 

I hate him, you hate him, we all hate him, but he's one heck of a hitter.

 

#3 all time in career OPS+

[Cocos Disciples]

2. Clone Manny who took extra steroids.

 

/list

[rhet]

1. Albert Pujols

2. Jimmy Foxx

3.

[jacksonianmarch]

ARod>/=Manny

[rhet]

1. Albert Pujols

2. Jimmy Foxx

3. Arod

4. Rogers Hornsby

5.

[Dojji]

ARod>/=Manny

 

Not as a hitter. When you throw in A-Rod's D and the position the two of them play you can get away with saying that.

 

And whoops, the criterion was RHH's, that leaves Bonds out.

[rhet]

1. Albert Pujols

2. Jimmy Foxx

3. Arod

4. Rogers Hornsby

5 Joe Dimaggio

6.

[Cocos Disciples]

Why don't you just do this in one post?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

A-Rod's not better than Manny...

[Dojji]

Jim Rice in his prime.

[rhet]

1. Albert Pujols

2. Jimmy Foxx

3. Arod

4. Rogers Hornsby

5. Joe Dimaggio

6. Hank Greenberg

7. Willie Mays

8. Hank Aaron

[rhet]

A-Rod's not better than Manny...

 

I think he is.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I think he is.

I think is he isn't.

[rhet]

How about Frank Robinson?

[TheKilo]

Bonds.

 

I hate him, you hate him, we all hate him, but he's one heck of a hitter.

 

#3 all time in career OPS+

 

Didn't know he was right handed.

[Dojji]

It sort of depends on whether you take position into consideration. A RF/LF isn't as valuable as a SS/3B. Comparison of raw offensibe numbers (since we're talking "hitter" here) favor Manny.

[TheKilo]

A-Rod's not better than Manny...

 

Don't be biased - he clearly is, especially when position is taken into account.

[Dojji]

Didn't know he was right handed.

 

Yeah, I caught that a bit later on.

 

On that note, though, Slammin' Sammy Sosa is righthanded.

[TheKilo]

I'll also throw Josh Gibson into the nominations.

 

How about Frank Thomas?

[rhet]

Position shouldn't matter. Was he or is he a better hitter?

 

Juan Gonzalez in his prime was possibly better....

[Dojji]

No way Juangone, no way Thomas. THey had good peaks but they didn't last that long in them.

[rhet]

I'll also throw Josh Gibson into the nominations.

 

How about Frank Thomas?

 

Before his fall off, definitely.

[TheKilo]

Mike Schmidt

[Dojji]

Can we inject some semblance of sanity into this discussion? And use some kind of standard to answer the question? Career OPS+ perhaps?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Don't be biased - he clearly is' date=' especially when position is taken into account.[/quote']

In the field, advantage A-Rod.

 

We're talking strictly at the plate. Manny has him beat in career doubles, OPB, OPS, slugging %, and average for what its worth.

[rhet]

There is no clear standard. If one guy has more HR's and the other a much higher average, a judgment needs to be made. OPS is a guide, but certainly flawed as a standard.

[rhet]

RP/G might be a good indicator. Over a career or maybe over a 10-year period within the career. MVP award votes are an indicator of where he might stand within his era.

[rhet]

Mike Schmidt

 

Not even close.