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Simply by looking at the players' date=' I have to say that Arod is probably the better athlete. I realize it isn't all that scientific, but I would agree. They are relatively the same age, but Arod is faster, stronger [based on his # of homeruns and the distance they go'].

 

You do recall A-Rod was on steroids for at least three years right?

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You do recall A-Rod was on steroids for at least three years right?

 

I was going to mention this, but I figured it would be like talking to a brick wall.:lol:

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You do realize Lowell is like 17 months older than ARod right?

 

Indeed, he only looks like Old Man Methuselah.

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I heard this is the same type of injury that Albert Belle and Bo Jackson had. Any truth to this?
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Lowell is not in anywhere near the shape that ARod is

 

Jeez, is it genetics? Or could there be some other factor that makes ARod so superior in terms of being in shape?

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I heard this is the same type of injury that Albert Belle and Bo Jackson had. Any truth to this?

 

Even if so, medical science is more advanced now so I doubt it's a sign of anything.

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Even if so' date=' medical science is more advanced now so I doubt it's a sign of anything.[/quote']

 

A Hip replacement is still a hip replacement. There quality of life would probably be better with the medical advancements, but a career as an elite physical athlete would be over.

 

That's why I was wondering if its the same injury. This could be a very critical point of Arods career.

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It's the same injury Mike Lowell had. But I still question the decision to have a band-aid surgery right now considering they're still gonna be paying him for 9 more years
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It's the same injury Mike Lowell had. But I still question the decision to have a band-aid surgery right now considering they're still gonna be paying him for 9 more years

 

Typical Win now and at all costs Yankee mantra.

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Typical Win now and at all costs Yankee mantra.

 

After the season the Yanks just had, is definitely win now.

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Since he was hurt with this last year, and thought it was just stiffness, the possibility exists that he outperforms last year's numbers.

 

The possibility exists that he turns into Mike Lowell as well.

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A Hip replacement is still a hip replacement. There quality of life would probably be better with the medical advancements, but a career as an elite physical athlete would be over.

 

That's why I was wondering if its the same injury. This could be a very critical point of Arods career.

 

 

"Following surgery and rehabilitation on his injured hip, it was discovered that Jackson had avascular necrosis, as a result of decreased blood supply to the head of his left femur. This caused deterioration of the femoral head, ultimately requiring that the hip be replaced. Jackson missed the entire 1992 baseball season. When he announced soon after his surgery that he would play baseball again, many thought that goal to be unrealistic, especially at the Major League level."

 

Belle's White Sox contract had an unusual clause allowing him to demand that he would remain one of the three highest paid players in baseball. In October 1998, Belle invoked the clause, and when the White Sox declined to give him a raise, Belle immediately became a free agent. Belle again became the game's highest paid player, signing a five-year, $65 million deal with the Baltimore Orioles. However, Belle ended his career just two seasons later, retiring at age 34 as a result of degenerative osteoarthritis in his hip. However, he was kept on Baltimore's active 40-man roster for the next three years, as a condition of the insurance policy which largely reimbursed the Orioles for the remainder of Belle's contract.

 

Source: WikiPedia

 

Both Belle and Jackson had bone conditions. Unless his hip bone itself gets infected (the cyst, perhaps?) it's not nearly the same thing.

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You guys are comparing two different things. Arod's injury and Belle/Jackson injury are two things. This is like comparing Tommy John surgery and rotator cuff damage for pitchers.
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In other words: exactly what I said, only I used sources.

 

C'mon, Gom, when I'm makin' ya look bad it's time to give it up.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3962115&name=bell_stephania

 

Let's face it: Rodriguez is an amazing athlete who will no doubt work diligently to get back as quickly as possible, but it is still a challenging rehab schedule that presumes zero setbacks. It is worth bearing in mind that Rodriguez has sacrificed the majority of his spring training while dealing with his hip problem. It is a fact of baseball life that most players need a month or so to shake off the rust of the offseason. So is it reasonable to expect Rodriguez to hit the ground in midseason stride?

 

In the article she also said typical recovery time is about 10 to 16 weeks.

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According to Dr. Marc Philippon, A-Rod came through the surgery fine. He is actually supposed to ride an exercise bike before the end of today. Dr. Philippon also said that there was "no doubt" they made the right choice.

 

Seems like we have conflicting views on this...I say he's back May 1st, give or take a week either way.

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In other words: exactly what I said, only I used sources.

 

C'mon, Gom, when I'm makin' ya look bad it's time to give it up.

 

I re-read it, and you're right, I just said what you said. My bad.

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"Following surgery and rehabilitation on his injured hip' date=' i[b']t was discovered that Jackson had avascular necrosis, as a result of decreased blood supply to the head of his left femur.[/b] This caused deterioration of the femoral head, ultimately requiring that the hip be replaced. Jackson missed the entire 1992 baseball season. When he announced soon after his surgery that he would play baseball again, many thought that goal to be unrealistic, especially at the Major League level."

 

Belle's White Sox contract had an unusual clause allowing him to demand that he would remain one of the three highest paid players in baseball. In October 1998, Belle invoked the clause, and when the White Sox declined to give him a raise, Belle immediately became a free agent. Belle again became the game's highest paid player, signing a five-year, $65 million deal with the Baltimore Orioles. However, Belle ended his career just two seasons later, retiring at age 34 as a result of degenerative osteoarthritis in his hip. However, he was kept on Baltimore's active 40-man roster for the next three years, as a condition of the insurance policy which largely reimbursed the Orioles for the remainder of Belle's contract.

 

Source: WikiPedia

 

Both Belle and Jackson had bone conditions. Unless his hip bone itself gets infected (the cyst, perhaps?) it's not nearly the same thing.

 

This is dumb. Jackson had a hip dislocation which is known to cause avascular necrosis. The Yankees are trying to keep ARod from developing arthritis like Belle had.

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According to Dr. Marc Philippon, A-Rod came through the surgery fine. He is actually supposed to ride an exercise bike before the end of today. Dr. Philippon also said that there was "no doubt" they made the right choice.

 

Seems like we have conflicting views on this...I say he's back May 1st, give or take a week either way.

 

Bingo. I was about to post something very similar to this until I saw that you already had. We're sitting here debating his health, pretending like we know what we're talking about. A man who is more educated on the topic, and has more authority to speak on the topic than any of us, has offered his opinion. I trust him a little more than I trust any of our opinions. He is taking a chance by making the statements that he did, meaning he truly believes them, because if they turn out to be wrong he is going to look like a bit of a fraud (because of his supreme amount of confidence following the procedure).

 

Could Phillippon be wrong? Absolutely. But he is qualified to speak on the topic than any of us, or the ESPN reporter that TheKilo quoted for that matter.

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85-90% from one of the best surgeons in the world at this particular surgery [from what I've read] is good enough for me.
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Well' date=' he did cover his own ass when he said there's an 85% chance he can play through the season[/quote']

 

That will mean very little if A-Rod has a setback, especially considering how confident he apparently sounded on the conference call again.

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85-90% from one of the best surgeons in the world at this particular surgery [from what I've read] is good enough for me.

Funny, when I quoted the head of the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopedic Institute, one of the preeminent orthopedic rehab institutions, on the Papelbon starting vs. relieving issue, all you had to say was that I was guilty of "believing everything your read! LOL!". It's interesting how often you will commit yourself to talking out of both sides of your mouth.

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Funny' date=' when I quoted the head of the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopedic Institute, one of the preeminent orthopedic rehab institutions, on the Papelbon starting vs. relieving issue, all you had to say was that I was guilty of "believing everything your read! LOL!". It's interesting how often you will commit yourself to talking out of both sides of your mouth.[/quote']

 

Here we go again. Yes...relieving and throwing 60 innings a season causes more stress than 200 innings as a starter. Can't see how I missed that one.

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The issue isn't to bring the topic up again, dummy. It's the hypocrisy of ridiculing a person for believing the words a doctor and then some time later, putting faith in the words of a doctor.
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Every doctor strongly believes in the diagnosis he gives patients so the most optimistic a doctor will ever be about a prognosis is immediately after a procedure. But the terms "complications" and "setbacks in recovery" are pretty common in rehab so anything the doctor says about a surgery, especially a surgery that needs another, more major surgery after the season.

 

How confident can Phillippon be about the effects A-Rod charging a bunt, planting his leg and making an off-balance throw will have on his hip?

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