Yankees Sign Jason Johnson

[pinstripezac]

I'm a little surprised that theo didn't go for the pavano tweak

 

as a counter to the yanks picking up Jason Johnson

 

 

OMG did that really happen or was I just really enjoying mary jane

 

wtf is up with that?

 

this guy must have something

 

I have no idea what it is

 

but you don't get enough chances to become 50 games under 500

 

unless you have something

 

he's 35, his best yr was 10 -10 and he is still getting chances

 

and he's not even left handed

 

 

 

wtf is up with that?

[BSN07]

I don't see him breaking camp with the team. Maybe as a long reliever.

[pinstripezac]

I don't see him breaking camp with the team. Maybe as a long reliever.

 

me neither 07

 

but regardless he is taking someones spot / innings to impress

 

I just don't see why

[BoSox21]

me neither 07

 

but regardless he is taking someones spot / innings to impress

 

I just don't see why

 

Cause clearly they don't like their options in-house. Hell, they were willing to pay $10 million for a 5th starter until he rejected the offer.

[pinstripezac]

Cause clearly they don't like their options in-house.

 

 

we understand the part about never having to much pitching

 

we also understand that finding a nugget in the scrap yard can make a huge difference

 

I just don't understand why this guy after so many chances

 

there are plenty of others pitchers that are in the same position that could have been signed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hell, they were willing to pay $10 million for a 5th starter until he rejected the offer

 

 

 

not sure what the $$ in that case has to do with anything

 

but I understand RSN can't talk much BB without going there

 

but if you mean andy that would be the 4th spot

[BoSox21]

I see the Yanks top 4 being Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Joba therefore making Pettitte the 5th and there aren't many teams that pay or are willing to pay $10 million for their 5th starter

 

The fact that they signed Johnson the day Pettitte announced he was rejecting their offer tells me the Yanks are very worried about the 5th guy

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

I see the Yanks top 4 being Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Joba therefore making Pettitte the 5th and there aren't many teams that pay or are willing to pay $10 million for their 5th starter

 

Joba will be the 5th because of his innings cap

 

The fact that they signed Johnson the day Pettitte announced he was rejecting their offer tells me the Yanks are very worried about the 5th guy

 

The Johnson signing has nothing to do with Pettitte. They Yankees would be looking to add pitching depth regardless of whether or not Pettitte signs. And there are still plenty of good pitching options out there for the #4 spot if Andy doesn't sign, so I don't think the Yankees are worried yet.

[pinstripezac]

I see the Yanks top 4 being Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Joba therefore making Pettitte the 5th

 

maybe in sept but not in april, joba still has innings issues

 

 

and there aren't many teams that pay or are willing to pay $10 million for their 5th starter

 

 

no news there

 

The fact that they signed Johnson the day Pettitte announced he was rejecting their offer tells me the Yanks are very worried about the 5th guy

 

 

I guess that's somewhat reasonable

 

but I don't see any connection

 

It's been pretty obvious for a while andy wasn't taking the 10 mill

 

I'm sure they are concern about the 5th spot we all are

 

but there are way to many options in between andy and johnson

[BoSox21]

but there are way to many options in between andy and johnson

 

Which is why I'm baffled as to why they signed Johnson. I don't want to hear about pitching depth cause if you have to throw out Johnson for a start, it's cause you don't have any depth.

[pinstripezac]

Which is why I'm baffled as to why they signed Johnson. .

 

now you are baffled ?

 

that's what I 've been asking about the whole time

 

why this guy

 

I wasn't questioning we needed more pitching

 

cause you can never have enough

 

 

I don't want to hear about pitching depth cause if you have to throw out Johnson for a start, it's cause you don't have any depth

 

 

yes we all understand why the sox traded for him a couple of yrs ago

 

but what does that have to do with what I'm asking

[BoSox21]

if what you're asking is why didn't they any of the several better alternatives to Johnson, then I really don't know, I'd ask that as well if I didn't root for the Yankees to fail so badly

[pinstripezac]

if what you're asking is why didn't they any of the several better alternatives to Johnson' date=' then I really don't know, I'd ask that as well [/quote']

 

 

that, but the dodgers too

 

what does this guy have that got him enough chances to become 50 games under 500

 

that's a lot of chances without ever showing an upside

[BoSox21]

You're right, I see absolutely no reason why teams keep giving him chances, even after he was jettisoned to Japan

[26 to 6]

What' date=' you didn't know that the Yankees acquired Aaron Small specifically for those two months in late 2005? They knew that would happen. Same thing with Giese last year, they saw what he was capable of from the time he was in low-A ball. f*** emergencies, the Yankees are just [i']smart[/i]. Smart enough to know that a career f***up like Aaron Small was always hiding a superior talent that only the magic pinstripes could release. They're a step ahead of you and me, and five steps ahead of the rest of baseball. Maybe Selig should sanction their crystal balls.

Are you kidding? I'm pretty sure you are. You are aware that Small was a spring training invite who struggled at Columbus most of the season until about June or July, when he seriously contemplated retirement. I believe his wife talked him out of it, he improved at AAA and came up and made a spot start. Just so hapens he went 10-1.

[26 to 6]

I see the Yanks top 4 being Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Joba therefore making Pettitte the 5th and there aren't many teams that pay or are willing to pay $10 million for their 5th starter

It wasn't discussed much, it was just assumed that Andy would be the #5, but when you take into account Joba's innings limit (which is why he should be in the bullpen) and the fact that the #1 (C.C.) is a lefty, as is Andy you don't really want to stack your 2 lefties up one after the other in the rotation.

[Cocos Disciples]

Are you kidding? I'm pretty sure you are. You are aware that Small was a spring training invite who struggled at Columbus most of the season until about June or July' date=' when he seriously contemplated retirement. I believe his wife talked him out of it, he improved at AAA and came up and made a spot start. Just so hapens he went 10-1.[/quote']

 

I would bet he's kidding.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Are you kidding? I'm pretty sure you are. You are aware that Small was a spring training invite who struggled at Columbus most of the season until about June or July' date=' when he seriously contemplated retirement. I believe his wife talked him out of it, he improved at AAA and came up and made a spot start. Just so hapens he went 10-1.[/quote']

I've never been more serious about anything in my life.

 

/sarcasm

[jacksonianmarch]

We do have some concerns about our #5 starter. Thats obvious. And last yr we thought we had depth oing about 8 or 9 deep in the rotation when you consider the hot shot rookies. Well, the two most durable AAA guys went down with injuries, then our most durable starter went down after the two kids who started the yr in the rotation went down. It was amazing the amount of pitching injuries we had so adding depth isnt too bad. I just dont think adding useless depth helps.

 

One thing that concerns me is the innings caps. Joba threw 100IP last yr (and his career max is 120IP), Hughes threw somewhere in the 110-120 range (while his career max is 146IP). That means that both will be on innings caps, both likely in the range of 150IP. They said they would get creative to reach those caps. By creative, I think they'll be skipping a few starts. If you assume that they average 6IP per start, thats 25 starts to get to the cap. That leaves 7 starts per turn up for grabs. If you assume the trio of Sabathia/Burnett/Wang miss 6 starts all yr (which is conservative to say the least) that menas our 6th starter will start 20 games in 09. This is why we need PEttitte

[Optimist]

Every team has concerns about the back end of their rotation. I don't know why that's so shocking for some people here.

[pinstripezac]

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come on try to tell me

 

this guy doesn't look like john smoltz

 

[Cocos Disciples]

Great contribution there.

[BoSox21]

so we're waving the white flag on 2009 cause we signed John Smoltz and Rocco Baldelli?

[Cocos Disciples]

YA DUH

[BoSox21]

k, just checking

[BoSox21]

dude's got eye cancer

 

According to the New York Post, Jason Johnson has been diagnosed with cancer of the retina in his right eye.

 

"I went to the eye doctor to get a new pair of contacts and they found it,'' said Johnson, who is in Yankees camp on a minor league deal. "They sent me to the Wills Eye Institute in Philly. It's supposed to be the best in the world. Only 2,000 people a year get it. They put a radiation plaque on my eye for four days. They told me it has a 98 percent success rate. I can't pitch outside for two weeks. I can see but not real well.'' The 35-year-old right-hander also has diabetes.

[jacksonianmarch]

once we resigned Pettitte, this story became moot

[BoSox21]

it's not moot, the guy has cancer

 

a little work on the bedside manner, doctor

[rician blast]

BS21, thank you, my thoughts exactly.

[Cocos Disciples]

Jacko probably just didn't read the post, instead he saw the thread was bumped.

 

That really sucks, good luck to him.

[jacksonianmarch]

ooh, missed that part. Here's to hoping for a full recovery