2008 World Series Thread

[TheKilo]

Interesting, Rule 4.12:

 

(5) Weather, if the game is called while an inning is in progress and before it is completed, and one of the following situations prevails:

 

(i) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to tie the score, and the home team has not scored.

(ii) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not tied the score or retaken the lead.

 

( Such games shall be known as suspended games. No game called because of a curfew, weather, or a time limit shall be a suspended game unless it has progressed far enough to have been a regulation game under the provisions of Rule 4.10. A game called under the provisions of 4.12(a), (3) or (4) shall be a suspended game at any time after it starts.

 

NOTE: Weather and similar conditions_4.12 (a) (1 through 5)_shall take precedence in determining whether a called game shall be a suspended game. A game can only be considered a suspended game if stopped for any of the five (5) reasons specified in Section (a). Any regulation game called due to weather with the score tied (unless situation outlined in 4.12 (a) (5) (i) prevails) is a tie game and must be replayed in its entirety.

 

(d) A suspended game shall be resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game. The completion of a suspended game is a continuation of the original game. The lineup and batting order of both teams shall be exactly the same as the lineup and batting order at the moment of suspension, subject to the rules governing substitution. Any player may be replaced by a player who had not been in the game prior to the suspension. No player removed before the suspension may be returned to the lineup. A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended. If immediately prior to the call of a suspended game, a substitute pitcher has been announced but has not retired the side or pitched until the batter becomes a baserunner, such pitcher, when the suspended game is later resumed may, but is not required to start the resumed portion of the game. However, if he does not start he will be considered as having been substituted for and may not be used in that game.

 

It seems Buck and McCarver had their rules mixed up.

[See Red]

nevermind.

[See Red]

MLB dropped the ball. According to Selig the game would've been resumed even if the Rays hadn't tied the game.

 

If he had the intentions of resuming the game no matter what, that last inning should never have been played.

[Cocos Disciples]

There were puddles on the field, they should have called it even earlier.

[riverside sluggers]

Ugh just get this over with so the offseason can start

 

When I was on break, watching some of bud selig talking to the reporters. One reporter actually asked him if there was a chance that the remainder of game 5 would take place in Tampa Bay instead

[BoSox21]

Selig must be performing sexual favors for Upton and Pena this morning

[TheKilo]

Selig must be performing sexual favors for Upton and Pena this morning

 

Wouldn't it be the other way around?

[BoSox21]

Perhaps, yes cause it gets Hamels out of the game

 

But it also avoids a massive PR nightmare for Selig cause now, regardless of everything else, a 9 inning baseball game will decide the winner of game 5

[BoSox21]

upon further reflection, its the best solution.

 

if Selig called the game when it became official after 5 innings, the Phillies are champs and everyone outside Philly goes apeshit.

 

if Selig suspended the game when he did and the Rays hadn't scored in the top of the 6th, Philly fans riot to no end cause under the rules, they should have won.

 

they just really need to implement a rule that says a playoff game cannot be called, it can be suspended if the situation warrants until the full 9 innings are played

[TheKilo]

upon further reflection, its the best solution.

 

if Selig called the game when it became official after 5 innings, the Phillies are champs and everyone outside Philly goes apeshit.

 

if Selig suspended the game when he did and the Rays hadn't scored in the top of the 6th, Philly fans riot to no end cause under the rules, they should have won.

 

they just really need to implement a rule that says a playoff game cannot be called, it can be suspended if the situation warrants until the full 9 innings are played

 

Um, they have that rule.

 

Rule 4.11:

 

4.11 The score of a regulation game is the total number of runs scored by each team at the moment the game ends.

 

(a) The game ends when the visiting team completes its half of the ninth inning if the home team is ahead.

 

( The game ends when the ninth inning is completed, if the visiting team is ahead.

 

© If the home team scores the winning run in its half of the ninth inning (or its half of an extra inning after a tie), the game ends immediately when the winning run is scored.

 

EXCEPTION: If the last batter in a game hits a home run out of the playing field, the batter runner and all runners on base are permitted to score, in accordance with the base running rules, and the game ends when the batter runner touches home plate.

 

APPROVED RULING: The batter hits a home run out of the playing field to win the game in the last half of the ninth or an extra inning, but is called out for passing a preceding runner. The game ends immediately when the winning run is scored.

 

(d) A called game ends at the moment the umpire terminates play.

 

EXCEPTION: If the game is called while an inning is in progress and before it is completed, the game becomes a SUSPENDED game in each of the following situations:

 

(1) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to tie the score and the home team has not scored;

 

(2) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead and the home team has not tied the score or retaken the lead. National Association Leagues may also adopt the following rules for suspended games in addition to 4.11 (d) (1) & (2) above. (If adopted by a National Association League, Rule 4.10 © (d) & (e) would not apply to their games.):

 

(3) The game has not become a regulation game (4 1/2 innings with the home team ahead, or 5 innings with the visiting club ahead or tied).

 

(4) Any regulation game tied at the point play is stopped because of weather, curfew or other reason.

 

(5) If a game is suspended before it becomes a regulation game, and is continued prior to another regularly scheduled game, the regularly scheduled game will be limited to seven innings.

 

(6) If a game is suspended after it is a regulation game, and is continued prior to another regularly scheduled game, the regularly scheduled game will be a nine inning game.

 

EXCEPTION: The above sections (3), (4), (5) & (6) will not apply to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season, or League Playoffs. Any suspended game not completed prior to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season, will become a called game.

 

 

Rule 4.12, Suspended Games:

 

(5) Weather, if the game is called while an inning is in progress and before it is completed, and one of the following situations prevails:

 

(i) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to tie the score, and the home team has not scored.

 

(ii) The visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not tied the score or retaken the lead.

 

( Such games shall be known as suspended games. No game called because of a curfew, weather, or a time limit shall be a suspended game unless it has progressed far enough to have been a regulation game under the provisions of Rule 4.10. A game called under the provisions of 4.12(a), (3) or (4) shall be a suspended game at any time after it starts.

 

NOTE: Weather and similar conditions_4.12 (a) (1 through 5)_shall take precedence in determining whether a called game shall be a suspended game. A game can only be considered a suspended game if stopped for any of the five (5) reasons specified in Section (a). Any regulation game called due to weather with the score tied (unless situation outlined in 4.12 (a) (5) (i) prevails) is a tie game and must be replayed in its entirety.

 

 

© A suspended game shall be resumed and completed as follows:

 

(1) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game between the two clubs on the same grounds

 

 

Selig is right, here.

[BoSox21]

they rest of the game is still off until tomorrow night at the earliest

[redsoxrules]

the way its going they could possibly be playing baseball in november

[TheKilo]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081028&content_id=3650918&vkey=ps2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[Cocos Disciples]

Huh, the forecast wasn't too bad. That sucks though, everything pushed back.

[See Red]

Selig is right' date=' here.[/quote']

 

But the situation was f***ed up quite a bit, in my opinion. If he knew all along he was going to suspend the remainder of the game regardless of whether or not the Rays had scored in that inning, then they shouldn't have played that half inning.

[Cocos Disciples]

Not only that, but they should have called it earlier, the field was terrible.

[TheKilo]

But the situation was f***ed up quite a bit' date=' in my opinion. If he knew all along he was going to suspend the remainder of the game regardless of whether or not the Rays had scored in that inning, then they shouldn't have played that half inning.[/quote']

 

I'm not sure a WS game had ever been suspended. I think they did all they could to get the game in, knowing that it would be the last in Philadelphia.

 

Should it have been called earlier? maybe. But I don't feel much sympathy for the Phillies because they had multiple chances to extend their lead and failed to do so.

[TheKilo]

Who does Maddon start with tonight? I think it has to be Price...he can't afford to give up a run and Price can give him multiple innings.

 

My second vote would be Howell.

 

In no way shape or form can he keep Balfour out there.

[redsoxrules]

With balfour having a day off I think Maddon will stick with him

[redsoxrules]

I wonder IF theres a game 7 if its played on friday or saturday

[Cocos Disciples]

I'd say Friday.

[Cocos Disciples]

Game's on. Jenkins at 3rd, 1 out in the 6th.

[TheKilo]

The decision to start Balfour will be second guessed for a while if the Rays lose.

 

Howell or Price was the choice.

[Cocos Disciples]

I would have gone Price for a few innings.

[Cocos Disciples]

Aaaaaand tie game. Good for Rocco.

[The Dustball]

3-3 now after the Baldelli homerun.

[TheKilo]

Baldelli dong

[TheKilo]

Why is Howell hitting here?

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah I can't say I agree with that either.

[Cocos Disciples]

Good heads up play by Utley to not throw to 1st and go home. Stretch, tied.