2008 Yankee News & Notes Thread

[a700hitter]

2001 was one of the best World Series ever. It was close' date=' so I wouldn't throw it in that category.[/quote']The Yankees were up 3 games to 2, and they lost the lead and the Series in the bottom of the 9th with Mo on the mound. That my friend started the whole choke pattern of the Yankees 21st century.

[jacksonianmarch]

When your team goes to the playoffs SO MANY TIMES, you are going to set records for both futility and prosperity. Also, you cannot win them all.

[YAZMAN]

When your team goes to the playoffs SO MANY TIMES' date=' you are going to set records for both futility and prosperity. Also, you cannot win them all.[/quote']

 

Plus,

 

FIRE JOE, FIRE JOE!!!

[Mr Crunchy]

i dunno

jim kelley and marv levy seem to have a lock on futility along with the box heads from minnesota who loved fran tarkenton and the vikings.

terrel davis and the denver defense saved john elway and the granola eaters in colorado from a similar plight....the pats were 0-2 in superbowls and a 14 pt underdog against the rams before they changed things forever here....the sox??lets just say the sox changed shoes with the yankees that night in 2004 when kevin brown and derek lowe squared off in game 7...ny has lost all the swagger,some of it was lost that sunday night in arizona,most of it was lost that saturday when becks shut out petitte in 03 and what was left was ripped out of their hands by the sox in 04...

they havent been out of the 1st round since

based on what we see this year with the saviors being torched and or injured it doesnt look like 08 is the year they get back to the top...

its a long season and they do have bottom less resources but i just dont see this combo of old and new meshing into what was....

[jacksonianmarch]

It may not have meshed well to start, but we still have 4.5 months left of the season, and this team has proven to be a second half club over the last 8 seasons.

 

Consider this....

ARod and Posada have missed significant time this season, our two best hitters from 07

Robby Cano is on the interstate STILL

Giambi is still on the interstate as well, even though the power and OBP are solid

Shelley Duncan, Wilson Betemit, and Morgan Ensberg have seen significant playing time, yet have 2 homers between them and a near .200BA

Phil Hughes pitched like s*** to start and is now out 2 months

Kennedy couldnt find the strike zone and is in the minors

Igawa has started a game, bleh

We have lost one of our rookies likely for the yr who finally proved himself in a relief role (Alby)

 

and we are still 3 games out of first.

 

For you guys, Buchholz and Lester have been pretty good. Beckett has been solid. DiceK aside from his shortened outings has been lights out. Wake has been a better version of Wake, and OkiPap have put together a solid 45 days or so. Your offense has the most runs scored in the AL and the highest BA and OPS in all of MLB, by far.

 

and you lead us by three games.

 

Think about that. I for one think that this yankee team has a ton of untapped potential with more players coming down the pipe. The big question is whether it is realized this yr or next. If we continue to play inconsistent ball, then you will separate yourselves from us. If we get our guys back and get it rolling, you'll be in trouble.

[Jayhawk Bill]

If we get our guys back and get it rolling' date=' you'll be in trouble.[/quote']

 

If we get career-average hitting from JD Drew and Big Papi, career-average pitching from Curt Schilling and Bartolo Colon, career-average fielding from Julio Lugo, and middle-inning relief with an ERA below 5.00, along with what we've seen thus far, you'll be in trouble. And that's without considering Lowrie, Moss and Masterson.

 

JM, I find the BP Postseason Projections using ELO to be the best at this point of the season. They show the Red Sox as 59.7% likely to take the AL East this morning, with the Yankees 22.5% likely to win the division. The Rays have a 9.5% chance; the other two teams combine for the remainder. That suggests that the Yankees are very much alive; I'd agree with that.

 

The Yankees aren't, however, looking like favorites as we post here today.

[ORS]

and you lead us by three games.

This year's installment of the loss-column debate:

 

It's 4. Supposing the Yankees are a .600 team (a 97 win team) here's the probability breakdown....

 

[table]Game 1|Game 2|Prob

Win|Win|0.36

Lose|Win|0.24

Win|Lose|0.24

Lose|Lose|0.16[/table]

 

36% of the time you will be 3 back, 48% of the time you will be 4 back, 16% of the time you will be 5 back after catching up in games played.

 

Yes, I know this is not written in stone, the games have to be played, pitching matchup matter, blah, blah, blah.

 

Point is, it is folly to count them as wins, which is what you do when you ignore the win column as well.

 

Think about that.

[ORS]

Speaking of which, one of those makeup games occur on Thursday (assuming no rainouts for either team Mon-Wed).

 

Kazmir vs Rasner, in St Pete.

 

We'll see what happens.

[TheKilo]

It may not have meshed well to start, but we still have 4.5 months left of the season, and this team has proven to be a second half club over the last 8 seasons.

 

Consider this....

ARod and Posada have missed significant time this season, our two best hitters from 07

Robby Cano is on the interstate STILL

Giambi is still on the interstate as well, even though the power and OBP are solid

Shelley Duncan, Wilson Betemit, and Morgan Ensberg have seen significant playing time, yet have 2 homers between them and a near .200BA

Phil Hughes pitched like s*** to start and is now out 2 months

Kennedy couldnt find the strike zone and is in the minors

Igawa has started a game, bleh

We have lost one of our rookies likely for the yr who finally proved himself in a relief role (Alby)

 

and we are still 3 games out of first.

 

For you guys, Buchholz and Lester have been pretty good. Beckett has been solid. DiceK aside from his shortened outings has been lights out. Wake has been a better version of Wake, and OkiPap have put together a solid 45 days or so. Your offense has the most runs scored in the AL and the highest BA and OPS in all of MLB, by far.

 

and you lead us by three games.

 

Think about that. I for one think that this yankee team has a ton of untapped potential with more players coming down the pipe. The big question is whether it is realized this yr or next. If we continue to play inconsistent ball, then you will separate yourselves from us. If we get our guys back and get it rolling, you'll be in trouble.

 

Flu? Japan? SOS?

 

April was FAR AND AWAY the Sox's most difficult month, yet the Sox lead by four games on the Yankees.

 

Untapped potential? Who is this you speak of?

[jacksonianmarch]

Our two best hitters havent even taken the field in a half month.

[ORS]

Posada is the 2nd best hitter on the team? One career year a trend makes, huh? Funny, that courtesy didn't extend to Lowell in your estimations of the Sox coming into this year.

[Mr Crunchy]

i think the sox have played the harder schedule so far this campaign and add onto that the auspicious world tour to start the season so a 3 game lead is fine with me.

we lost our mvp for the 1st month in lowell

becks missed a couple starts

the youngsters have had growing pains

ortiz didnt break .200 till last week

and the last time ny saw 1st place gas was under 235 a gallon and hillary clinton was gearing up to face rudolpho guiliani in a run for president...

its been a while since ny concerned us

[YAZMAN]

Plus the nasty flu episode, Crunch.

[The Dustball]

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080512&content_id=2687588&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

 

Kennedy is going to be called back up from AAA to make the start on Thursday and Igawa is going to be sent to the bullpen

[Jayhawk Bill]

Kennedy is going to be called back up from AAA to make the start on Thursday

 

And with umpires like Gerry Davis and Derryl Cousins, he might thrive upon his return to MLB.

 

Ian Kennedy can only succeed in MLB if he gets an extra two to four inches on the outside of the plate. Watch and see.

[Mr Crunchy]

ian kennedy?

they seem determined to make sure this guy is an emotional wreck by the 1st of june.

[BoSox21]

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080512&content_id=2687588&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

 

Kennedy is going to be called back up from AAA to make the start on Thursday and Igawa is going to be sent to the bullpen

 

*giggle*

[26 to 6]

I think it's too soon. Defeats the purpose of sending him down there.

 

Where's Boomer at? hahah

 

Not that he would be any better, but I really think IPK should stay in SWB for a little bit. What about Giese or White or something. I hope it works out, but I think it's a mistake. I guess we'll know soon enough.

[BoSox21]

most of the Yankees' moves this year really reek of a lot of management tug-of-war going on

[26 to 6]

I dont think so. Not compared to how it wa pre-'05 when the Tampa faction would always conflict with what the NY faction wanted to do. I think it's pretty much ettled down. I think Hank is letting Ca$h take care of most of the decision-making. Sure, he probably has some input but I think it's on Cashman. The Yankees say 2000/2001-2005 were a nightmare. Tug of war wouldn't begin to describe it.

[BoSox21]

Between the whole Joba drama a few weeks ago and the jerking around of Kennedy, it just seems to me like the Yankees are really struggling to find that balance between rebuilding, which Cashman is advocating, and trying to win now, which the Steinbrenners, namely Hank, are advocating

[26 to 6]

Yeah I see your point. But I think daddy has Hank in check. Despite what Hank said, nobody budged on Joba. And Hank later went on to make nice with hi comments. Also, Kennedy was a Girardi/Ca$h move. But I can certainly see how things seem to be in imbo right now in Yankee-land.

[BoSox21]

Yeah I see your point. But I think daddy has Hank in check. Despite what Hank said' date=' nobody budged on Joba. And Hank later went on to make nice with hi comments.[/quote']

 

exactly, it seems that everytime Hank's brain doesn't quite keep up with his mouth, his dad sets him straight. I guess it's a learning process for Hank but its still fun to see the occasional manager/GM/owner come along and talk to the media the way he would talk to someone in a bar after having a half-dozen whiskey sours

[ORS]

Daddy has Hank in check?

 

Doubtful. What is rumored to have hit Big Stein doesn't get better with time. Keeping the tapioca in his mouth and off his chin is probably higher on his list of priorities than anything else right now. This isn't coming from mean spirited thoughts. I've witnessed this first hand with my grandmother. In less than a year she went from being able to hold a conversation, albeit addled with directions to people long past, to needing full-time care and soft food. Thems the facts.

[26 to 6]

I don't think George is incoherent and incapacitated. I'm sure he's able to communicate and whatnot. His condition may make it so that he prefers to be out of the spotlight and just stay at home and away from business. I can't say for sure, as none of us can. Fact is that none of us are there witnessing it, but the very few time throughout the season where George has been mentioned it' to say he's doing well resting down in Tampa. Who knows though. I'm sure it'll progress eventually, but a for his current state we just don't know. But if he is at all coherent and communicable he's following his team, and likely in touch with Hank and co. I guess we'll have a better idea come July and the All Star Break. I would suspect if healthy enough he would certainly make an appearance here in NY. We'll see though. But I know for sure Hank isn't calling the shots all by himself. Either daddy, Hal, or the front office have some grasp on him.

[The Dustball]

:lol: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/05/16/2008-05-16_jason_giambi_wears_thong_when_in_slump_s.html

 

From the NYDAILYNEWS:

 

Yankee slugger Jason Giambi wears a gold lam?, tiger-stripe thong under his uniform when he wants to break out of a slump - and he shares it with hitless teammates who want to get back on track.

 

"I only put it on when I'm desperate to get out of a big slump," he tells Portfolio.com.

 

Over the years, the 37-year-old All-Star has left the "golden thong" in the lockers of slumping teammates Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Johnny Damon, Robin Ventura and Robinson Cano.

 

"All of them wore it and got hits," he reports. "The thong works every time."

 

HAHA WTF?

[redsoxrules]

BWAHAHAHAHA

[BoSox21]

so not only do several Yankees wear a gold thong....BUT THEY SHARE THE SAME ONE?!?!?!?

[The Dustball]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3401958

 

A-rod expects to return to the Yankee lineup on Tuesday. They desperately need an offensive spark and he could be the one to provide that.

[Jayhawk Bill]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3401958

 

A-rod expects to return to the Yankee lineup on Tuesday. They desperately need an offensive spark and he could be the one to provide that.

 

Excellent point, Dustball. Few MLB players are more offensive than A-Rod.