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Wait...professional athletes smoke marijuana?!?!?

 

Where else would the money go?!?!

 

Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.

 

Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.

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Where else would the money go?!?!

 

Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.

 

Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.

 

do you know what kevin faulk gives to charity every year or what he donated to the city of new orleans and other gulf coast cities ravaged by katrina?

what does the possession of 4 f***ing blunts have to do with charity anyways?

he can get more dangerous s*** legally from the pats trainers if he wanted to.

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Where else would the money go?!?!

 

Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.

 

Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.

 

What???? Faulk is actually one of the biggest charity guys out there. Nice job comparing him to Latrell:rolleyes:

 

This obviously isn't good, but I'm also not surprised.

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Who cares? A professional football player occasionally smoking a J isn't the end of the world. We should just legalize (or decriminalize) the stuff and be done with it.

 

Alcohol is a much bigger social problem than potheads IMHO.

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Bigger problem? How so?

 

More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.

 

I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.

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More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.

 

I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.

 

 

So can prescription drugs, ect... the problem isn't the alcohol, it's the people that abuse it.

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More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.

 

I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.

Wow, you've just completely whitewashed a couple of things. Most smokers smoke filtered cigarettes. Due to smoking without filters and the nature of how it is smoked (holding it in), grass smokers generally expose themselves to 3-5 times the tar and CO absorbtion. Smoking does far more harm to the body than drinking. Are high drivers any different than drunk drivers? Dope doesn't lead to as many stupid decisions? I'd certainly disagree, from personal experience, there.

 

I'm not taking this up because I'm anti-drug. I think the war on drugs is stupid. Simple possession, of anything, should be at least decriminalized, but I'm for complete legalization. Of all of them. The drugs aren't going away. The busts just result in new dealers. Why let organized crime make money - while we waste money enforcing it - when we could reassign every law enforcement officer, funded through taxes on drugs, to the investigate real crime. Person on person crime. None of this NIMBY crap. I mean, as a society we allow women to kill an unborn child, and it's legal because we supposedly wanted to make the practice safer (which hasn't been delivered, IMO). How hypocritical is it if we'll allow babies to be killed for safety, but not the usage of drugs?

 

Anyway, I don't see the "alcohol is more damaging" line of thinking. It's what I told myself when I started smoking grass, but now I see them as equal in stature in terms of the negatives.

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I'm not taking this up because I'm anti-drug. I think the war on drugs is stupid. Simple possession' date=' of anything, should be at least decriminalized, but I'm for complete legalization. Of all of them. The drugs aren't going away. The busts just result in new dealers. Why let organized crime make money - while we waste money enforcing it - when we could reassign every law enforcement officer, funded through taxes on drugs, to the investigate real crime. Person on person crime. None of this NIMBY crap. I mean, as a society we allow women to kill an unborn child, and it's legal because we supposedly wanted to make the practice safer (which hasn't been delivered, IMO). How hypocritical is it if we'll allow babies to be killed for safety, but not the usage of drugs? [/quote']

 

You need to read some of retired cop Jeff Kaufman's essays.

 

http://groups.google.com/group/valleyfreeradio/browse_thread/thread/00d8cc03ebcbfe49

 

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php?name=Speakers&bio=235

 

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/law04.htm

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I've heard of LEAP, and that, to me, says a lot. When law enforcement officers are telling us the current war on drugs isn't doing anything, we ought to listen. I do, however, take some exception to the notion that illegality doesn't dissuade people from using. I'm subject to random drug testing at work. The fact that I could lose my job, and the potential for social services to get involved with my kids if I'm caught in possession, are significant deterents to me. Therefore, I don't partake, and I would (occaissionally) if there was no potential for penalty. I'm sure there are many who act the same. That said, I don't, nor will I, believe that more people smoking an occassional J is all that bad compared to the current failed effort.
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I smoke blunts all day.

 

People just need to let us chill. If it is detrimental to one's job, career, family, etc. that's one thing. They should be smart enough not to use. Professional athletes fall into this category due to their league's drug policies. That said, while it's wrong and against league rules, I can't get too mad at guys like Randy Moss, Faulk, Javy Vazquez, etc. smoking in the offseason. Not that I'm condoning it, but it won't seriously bother me unless they're burning in-season and it's having an effect on their performance, preventing them from getting to practices (on time or even at all), work ethic, etc. But like I said, if it really has no personal consequences, people should just let us be. f***ing police state we live in is just ignoring all of our rights. I've had some experiences where police resorted to unnecessary actions when it comes to weed. Like if I'm trafficing weight, or hard drugs that's one thing. But otherwise LEAVE ME ALONE DAMNIT!

:lol:

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More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.

 

I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.

Absolutely agree 100%

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http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/02/report_faulk_pa.html

 

According to a report in The Daily Advertiser newspaper in Louisiana, Patriots running back Kevin Faulk, who was cited for marijuana possession last Friday, passed a drug test and will not have to enter the NFL's substance abuse program.

 

Faulk told the paper he talked to coach Bill Belichick and immediately submitted to a drug test, which was taken on Monday. He said the results of the test were negative.

 

Faulk has been charged with simple possession of marijuana, a misdemeanor, after he was found with four hand-rolled cigars filled with the illegal substance while attending a Lil Wayne concert at the Cajundome in Lafayette, La., last Friday.

 

The passing of a drug test would not affect those charges

 

 

and the reason:

 

http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080228/SPORTS/80228023/1002

 

Faulk told The Daily Advertiser today that the marijuana wasn't his and neither was the jacket he was wearing that contained the illegal substance.

 

Faulk said he was upfront with Patriots' coach Bill Belichick and the organization from the beginning and immediately submitted to a drug test that he took on Monday.

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weed stays essentially forever in your blood stream

something like 30days if you smoke a J,chronics are worse off

 

if he got bagged on saturday and tested clean on monday he wasnt smoking dope

Posted
weed stays essentially forever in your blood stream

something like 30days if you smoke a J,chronics are worse off

 

if he got bagged on saturday and tested clean on monday he wasnt smoking dope

 

 

Let this be a lesson to you that the next time one of your kids is caught holding and they say they were just holding on to it for a friend, they may be telling the truth. I can see it now, kids will be pleading the Faulk with their parents. :D

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i tend to believe that possession is 9/10ths of the law bb

based on the above %s and my tendencies to believe in math over everything i will address that issue accordingly.

 

there are no time outs

there is no sit down and listen to me

there is no screaming

there is justice and swift and severe justice at that.

 

i had a cop catch me behind the library burning with a couple kids when i was in 8th grade.

 

he took me home rather than bust me.

""err andy i found your kid smokin weed behind the library with julio and the vaz brothers""......

i cursed that ********** for the rest of my life because he knew the difference between a juvenile court and the court of king daddy-0....

oooof

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