I Love the Celtics

[YanksHater213]

I saw the title and decided not to read it earlier today. People put too much stock into early season games. Beating someone by two is not showing that you're clearly the better team.

[TheKilo]

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[YanksHater213]

He's an animal.

 

He went back to the locker room with like 4 minutes to go in the 2nd, got stitches, came back to the scorers table with 2 minutes to go in the 2nd.

 

If I see Lamar Odom in the streets I might slit his throat, he better get a fine or suspension.

 

Everyone was dropping bombs last night, we really s*** on them pretty badly.

 

Even Tony Allen was taking it to the rack STRONG. I was loving it.

 

This team is clicking real well. 4 game west coast swing in 5 days, got all 4 of them.

 

2 more games, then another huge showdown with the Pistons.

 

I

[redsoxrules]

We'll see what they're made of coming up here soon. You can't deny that they haven't played anybody... there's some teams coming up that'll be the true test.

 

there for real , even before the win last night , there 26-3 and could be 29-0 , the 3 games they lost were 2 points to orlando, overtime loss to cleveland, and the 2 point loss to the pistons , their scoring an average of 100 points a game , 86.6 on defense ( number one in the league) 3rd in FG percentage , 1st in opp FG percentage

[See Red]

there for real ' date=' even before the win last night , there 26-3 and could be 29-0 , the 3 games they lost were 2 points to orlando, overtime loss to cleveland, and the 2 point loss to the pistons , their scoring an average of 100 points a game , 86.6 on defense ( number one in the league) 3rd in FG percentage , 1st in opp FG percentage[/quote']

 

Those are nice statistics but really, who have they played? They're not better than San Antonio, Phoenix, or Dallas.

[stocker323]

Spurs are the best team in the NBA, to have the best record in the West while playing without members of their own "big 3" says a lot about their team. Plus they have proven they know how to get it done when it counts.

[YanksHater213]

Those are nice statistics but really' date=' who have they played? They're not better than San Antonio, Phoenix, or Dallas.[/quote']

 

I saw validation in four West Coast wins in five days. I still refuse to judge our position overall in the NBA until after the Pistons game on Saturday. We'll either be 2 or 3 at that point, Spurs are the obvious 1.

 

Bottom line is they're beating the people they should beat, and badly too, it's that simple. It's not really fair to discredit the Celtics for that though, it's not like college where you can make your own schedule. You can't be like, well the Knicks blow so lets not play them and play the Spurs 9 times instead.

[See Red]

I think it's more than fair to say that until you beat one of the elite teams, which in the NBA, is the same teams every year, you're not "one of them".

 

Who'd they play on that West Coast swing? Sacramento, Seattle, Utah, and the Lakers.

 

Sacramento and Seattle are terrible, Utah's a .500 basketball team and the Lakers aren't an elite team, though 19-11 is a pretty good mark. That road trip proved very little.

 

I will say this, however, I do love that NBA on ESPN commercial featuring the big three and Jeff Van Gundy.

[YanksHater213]

Still though, four games in five days is tough, even if it's all at home. The way I look at it, we beat two teams we should have, Utah is better than their record shows, and really played us tough, and we demolished a hot Lakers team on our 4th game in 5 days. That's gotta count for something.

 

A nice tidbit of info here.

Team      Strength of Schedule
Suns        .473
Nuggets    .476
Hornets    .478
Pistons     .482
Spurs       .482
Magic       .492
Warriors   .501
Celtics      .501
Mavs        .512
Blazers     .516
Jazz          .522
Lakers      .537

 

I'm assuming everyone on that list above the Celtics needs to be discredited too now, right?

[See Red]

No.

 

The Suns have beat San Antonio in San Antonio, almost beat Dallas in Dallas, they've beaten Orlando twice, and everybody knows what they bring to the table and have brought to the table for a few years now. And didn't they play without Amare for a little bit?

 

Pistons destroyed Orlando and at least beat the Celtics. :dunno:

 

Best team the Celtics have beat is either Denver or Orlando. I don't think either team is particularly great, though both could potentially make some noise.

 

And we know the Spurs are great. We know Dallas is great. We know Phoenix is great. We also know that they are playoff tested and know that the regular season isn't all important.

 

I'm not saying they're not one of the five or so best teams in the League... but earlier this year this team was being compared to Jordan's Bull's teams and the words "best ever" were being thrown around by ESPN. They're not that. They're not the best in the League and until they prove, against SA, DAL, or PHO that they are on that level... they're not.

[YanksHater213]

Kevin Garnett tonight?

 

Sexual.

[MANNYHOF24]

No.

 

The Suns have beat San Antonio in San Antonio, almost beat Dallas in Dallas, they've beaten Orlando twice, and everybody knows what they bring to the table and have brought to the table for a few years now. And didn't they play without Amare for a little bit?

 

Pistons destroyed Orlando and at least beat the Celtics. :dunno:

 

Best team the Celtics have beat is either Denver or Orlando. I don't think either team is particularly great, though both could potentially make some noise.

 

And we know the Spurs are great. We know Dallas is great. We know Phoenix is great. We also know that they are playoff tested and know that the regular season isn't all important.

 

I'm not saying they're not one of the five or so best teams in the League... but earlier this year this team was being compared to Jordan's Bull's teams and the words "best ever" were being thrown around by ESPN. They're not that. They're not the best in the League and until they prove, against SA, DAL, or PHO that they are on that level... they're not.

 

Winning tonight in Detroit helps their case immensely. That was a good basketball game tonight, and who would have thouhgt that Big Baby would end up being the hero. The celtics are 29-3 now, and are clearly an elite regular season team.

[YanksHater213]

Start giving us some credit, See Red.

[26 to 6]

I feel mixed about the Celtics, as a New Yorker I'm supposed to not like them, and I dont, as a rival ot my Knicks, but even since their late season playoff run two seasons ago I can't help but watch and follow them from a distance. They've been playing GREAT basketball and and everyone should be willing to accept that.

[schillingouttheks]

The Celtics are going to have to learn to play without KG...

 

They're really sucking without him.

[YanksHater213]

UH f*** YOU

 

they lost on a 30 foot bomb by some turkish goon named hedo at the last second AND we didn't have KG with scalafaggot logging big minutes.

 

dont get me wrong i love scal, i think he can contribute, but in a much smaller role (5-10 min a game)

[schillingouttheks]

UH f*** YOU

 

they lost on a 30 foot bomb by some turkish goon named hedo at the last second AND we didn't have KG with scalafaggot logging big minutes.

 

dont get me wrong i love scal, i think he can contribute, but in a much smaller role (5-10 min a game)

 

lol, I said that when they were losing by like 20.

 

Then they went out of their minds. And besides, I'm not the one last night who said "I hate the Celtics so much!!!!"

 

[YanksHater213]

lol, I said that when they were losing by like 20.

 

Then they went out of their minds. And besides, I'm not the one last night who said "I hate the Celtics so much!!!!"

 

 

your not the one who drank a lot of beer last nite either

[Cityofchampions33]

Solid win tnoight judging by the score, though I was more focused on other games tonight. Yankshater, as a true Celtics fan you seem to know this team inside out. While I do consider them my "east coast" team, I am loyal to the Suns. However, how would you say the season is going for this impressive team? what are the team's strengths/weaknesses, or what could be their downfall, besides the coaching of Doc Rivers. Do you think they will represent the east in the Finals? and even if they do advance, do you believe they stand a chance aganst the truely elite western teams.

[Mr Crunchy]

the truly elite western teams consisted of san antonio

the others havent done it and i dare say they wont.

phoenix plays defense with contempt,dallas has.....dallas doesnt have it

i like that denver team but they dont come to play every night,utah is decent if not inconsistant and the real surprise seems to be the new orleans team who just keeps winning.

the celts got out of the chute fast but are now being exposed as very thin

the point guard has played well but is untested in battle

i'd love sam cassell here

that boy is a winner

[YanksHater213]

Solid win tnoight judging by the score' date=' though I was more focused on other games tonight. Yankshater, as a true Celtics fan you seem to know this team inside out. While I do consider them my "east coast" team, I am loyal to the Suns. However, how would you say the season is going for this impressive team? what are the team's strengths/weaknesses, or what could be their downfall, besides the coaching of Doc Rivers. Do you think they will represent the east in the Finals? and even if they do advance, do you believe they stand a chance aganst the truely elite western teams.[/quote']

 

It's obviously going great, impressive start out of the gate was expected by few. A few nicks and bruises right now but nothing major, Allen is sick, KG has a minor abdominal strain. I'm worried about Rondo, he's been getting the s*** beat out of him, especially by that douche Dwight Howard the other day. This slow down was expected, but I can assertain that a few of the losses wouldn't have happenened under normal circumstances. One night J-Rich was hitting everything he threw up and the Raptors shot 71% from three another night, not happening again in the near future for either team, so I'm not in the least worried about those losses.

 

Strengths is obviously our starting lineup. Perkins has been playing great, KG has been IMO the single most impactful player down low in the NBA (spare me Duncan and prime Shaq) in a long time. From his defense to his offensive versatility, he really has it all and he's a treat to watch. Allen and Pierce have both been very good but somewhat inconsistent, but they're still meshing together. I love Rondo a lot too, he's the perfect PG for our system, penetrates well off the dribble, knows the offense, very good playmaker, and can take it to the tin and knows how to take a hit.

 

I really LOVE our bench though. House and Posey have been AMAZING, Powe is so underrated and he's been great since getting minutes, Davis has played pretty well in limited action, and the few minutes Pruitt has gotten, he's looked nice. I'm most impressed with how quickly Tony Allen got back though, he's been playing well. Everyone thought the bench would be a glaring weakness, but so far it's been absolutely money.

 

Our only real weakness is PG depth. Cassell could become available and who knows whats gonna happen with Stoudamire, so we'll see but I'm sure it'll be fixed come playoff time. Doc sucks as well, but thats a story thats been beaten to death, so I'll spare the details.

 

As far as the playoffs are concerned, I don't see us beating Detroit in a 7 game series, but a run for their money will be in store. Next year will be different though, I think we will be even better next season. In terms of stacking up against the Westen Contenders, we match up against most of them pretty well. The Spurs aren't looking good at all, they're looking old and tired, the Mavs have looked alright on the whole, but are playing well as of late. Denver and Phoenix don't play a lick of defense. New Orleans is a great team though, very solid all around, Chandler might be one of the most underrated players in the league. Paul is the best PG I've seen since Stockton and Payton in his prime. We match up well with them, but the only way we can beat them is if Doc implements some system to defend their pick and roll, because they do it better than anyone in the NBA.

 

IMO whoever wins the East (assuming it's Boston and Detroit in the ECF), that's whos winning the Championship.

[Cityofchampions33]

Perkins has been playing great

 

Our only real weakness is PG depth. Cassell could become available and who knows whats gonna happen with Stoudamire, so we'll see but I'm sure it'll be fixed come playoff time.

 

I don't see us beating Detroit in a 7 game series, but a run for their money will be in store. Next year will be different though, I think we will be even better next season.

 

Hasn't the beef with Perkins been hs offense inadequacies? Not disagreeing but I swear I haven't heard such satisfacion with him before.

As for PG depth, who woudl yu rather have? Aassell or Staudamire? And are eitehr enough to satisfy that depth.

Any specific reasons the Ceklts don't stack up well with the Pistons?

[Cityofchampions33]

the truly elite western teams consisted of san antonio

the others havent done it and i dare say they wont.

phoenix plays defense with contempt,dallas has.....dallas doesnt have it

i like that denver team but they dont come to play every night,utah is decent if not inconsistant and the real surprise seems to be the new orleans team who just keeps winning.

the celts got out of the chute fast but are now being exposed as very thin

the point guard has played well but is untested in battle

i'd love sam cassell here

that boy is a winner

 

Couldn't you point the other Western teams "not having done it" to San Antonio's success? I still feel SA/PHX/DAL would give us trouble in a 7 game series, no matetr their weaknesses that are showing now (while playing in the better conference)

[YanksHater213]

Hasn't the beef with Perkins been hs offense inadequacies? Not disagreeing but I swear I haven't heard such satisfacion with him before.

As for PG depth, who woudl yu rather have? Aassell or Staudamire? And are eitehr enough to satisfy that depth.

Any specific reasons the Ceklts don't stack up well with the Pistons?

 

Yeah, he's a pretty horrible offensive player, but his jump hook has been falling recently. He puts the ball on the floor way too much when he gets it at the shoulders, instead of just going up with it. It's really keeping him from becoming a dependable center. Extremely inconsistent, and still pretty foul prone. He's been playing extremely well of late, so people think it's over with and this is the Perk we're gonna live with, but he's been playing out of his mind recently, it won't continue, but I think he'll be half decent for us.

 

As for the PGs you put up there, I'd probably take Cassell. Even though he's real old and s***, he's a proven winner, decent playmaker, and knows KG real well, so that's a plus. How much he could contribue? Not really sure, but I will say he'd be a good addition. But either or would suffice, both fit the roles well, and if we were to get either one I think we would be alright.

 

It's not that they don't stack up with the Pistons, I just think the Pistons have the chemistry, continuity, and experience that we don't have. I really love the Pistons bench as well as ours. I think it'd be a close series, but with Doc as the coach, I really have limited confidence in this team going far. He's just not good enough a coach to lead them to wins in the close late game situations.

[Mr Crunchy]

detroit has their own issues

stick someone in billups face all day long and let the other guys beat you

the celtics havent played together yet as a team

theyve had injuries all season with allen being the main man on the pine

if and i mean if glen davis can bring some energy down the stretch and powe can give 12 minutes a nite then their front court is solid

rondo has played fairly well but theyre going to need to spell him a bit more

sam cassell would go a long way towards their goal

[schillingouttheks]

So, the Celts are playing very well against the Mavs without KG.

 

Tied at 90 with 58 seconds to go...Celts' ball.

[schillingouttheks]

And the Boston Celtics have defeated the Dallas Mavericks 96-90 WITHOUT Kevin Garnett.

 

...smack me, I must be dreaming.

 

I almost broke my hand through the ceiling when Rondo took the ball out of Nowitzki's hands and scored the game winner.

[Mr Crunchy]

nowitzki is a ****

an open festering gash of a basketball player

how does the smallest man on the floor take the ball out of your hands in a tie game with less than a minute to go??

 

then he sachezed over to fetch the inbounds pass that posey stole??

posey brings a little bit of swagger to the table,something dallas could use some of.

[mtbykr]

I got to see the game being on TNT last night.....Pretty impressive win without KG. Down the stretch I would like to see the ball move more, and end of in Allen's hands sometimes instead of the 'give it to Pierce and get out of the way' routine. Maybe things are different when KG is playing, I haven't been able to see many games this year. The look on Dirks face was priceless when Rondo grabbed it and threw in the game winner! (still stunning to me that he makes that and blows easier layups in the game)

[Paradisecity]

I got my dad tickets for that game (he's seen a couple already this year) and before he left he sounded disappointed that KG wasn't playing. He got to see a well played game.

 

How about Powe?!? WTF?