Best Pitching Staff

[Thumper]

I got bored so I decided to see who you would think make the best pitching staff? Assume you have five starters, three reliefs, and two closers. They don't have to be in order of greatness, just list them.

 

This is mine.

 

Starting Pitchers

1. Sandy Koufax

2. Cy Young

3. Roger Clemens

4. Nolan Ryan

5. Bob Feller

 

Relief Pitchers

1. Mariano Rivera

2. Orel Hershiser

3. Jim Kaat

 

Closing Pitchers

1. Rollie Fingers

2. Dennis Eckersley

[example1]

I got bored so I decided to see who you would think make the best pitching staff? Assume you have five starters, three reliefs, and two closers. They don't have to be in order of greatness, just list them.

 

This is mine.

 

Starting Pitchers

1. Sandy Koufax

2. Cy Young

3. Roger Clemens

4. Nolan Ryan

5. Bob Feller

 

Relief Pitchers

1. Mariano Rivera

2. Orel Hershiser

3. Jim Kaat

 

Closing Pitchers

1. Rollie Fingers

2. Dennis Eckersley

 

Rotation: (all in their primes)

 

1. Pedro Martinez

2. Sandy Koufax

3. Roger Clemens

4. Randy Johnson

5. Satchel Paige

 

only one reliever needed (unless I just put in other starting pitchers for middle relief):

 

Mariano Rivera

[ksushi]

Pedro

Koufax

Gibson

Clemens

Maddux

 

Nolan Ryan is the most overrated pitcher ever. Most walks, the worst winning percentage of any 300 game winner, and never won a Cy Young. He was never considered to be the most dominant pitcher in baseball once. Maddux outclasses him, so does Clemens.

[ORS]

Starting Pitchers

1. Sandy Koufax

2. Cy Young

3. Roger Clemens

4. Nolan Ryan

5. Bob Feller

This list is rife with inconsistency. I can understand Young, Clemens, and Ryan for their staggering career numbers, but Koufax and Feller don't fit in if that is the criteria. Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Warren Spahn, and Greg Maddux would be better fits.

 

Now, if we are talking about the 5 best pitchers when they were at the top of their game in terms of dominance, then this is who I want:

 

1. Pedro, Pedro, Pedro, always Pedro

2. Greg Maddux - only one pitcher has two of the top-5 all-time ERA+ years, and surprisingly it's him

3. Walter Johnson

4. Roger Clemens

5. Sandy Koufax

 

Close but no cigar: Randy Johnson, Lefty Grove, Bob Gibson

[Cocos Disciples]

Thumper, no Beckett or Schilling?

[Thumper]

Thumper' date=' no Beckett or Schilling?[/quote']

 

 

Just because I think they are great doesn't mean they're the best. They aren't. They're good, but not the best.

[ORS]

My all around ideal pitcher would have to be a combination of Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling. Put Beckett's young speed with Schilling's experience' date=' BOOM. Perfect games are bound to come.[/quote']

They were your choice for the ideal pitcher. You don't think ideal means best? I do.

[Thumper]

They were your choice for the ideal pitcher. You don't think ideal means best? I do.

 

Not really. Ideal doesn't mean the best.

 

The definition of ideal is "principle or value that one actively pursues as a goal"

 

We were pursuing our view of a valued pitcher. Which means it didn't have to be the best. My ideal pitcher was that combination. Do I think it's the best? Of course not. But it was still my opinion on an ideal pitcher.

 

Now please let's stay on topic.

[ORS]

Get a new dicitonary.

 

i·de·al /aɪˈdiəl, aɪˈdil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ahy-dee-uhl, ahy-deel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

1. a conception of something in its perfection.

2. a standard of perfection or excellence.

3. a person or thing conceived as embodying such a conception or conforming to such a standard, and taken as a model for imitation: Thomas Jefferson was his ideal.

4. an ultimate object or aim of endeavor, esp. one of high or noble character: He refuses to compromise any of his ideals.

5. something that exists only in the imagination: To achieve the ideal is almost hopeless.

6. Mathematics. a subring of a ring, any element of which when multiplied by any element of the ring results in an element of the subring.

–adjective

7. conceived as constituting a standard of perfection or excellence: ideal beauty.

8. regarded as perfect of its kind: an ideal spot for a home.

9. existing only in the imagination; not real or actual: Nature is real; beauty is ideal.

10. advantageous; excellent; best: It would be ideal if she could accompany us as she knows the way.

11. based upon an ideal or ideals: the ideal theory of numbers.

12. Philosophy. a. pertaining to a possible state of affairs considered as highly desirable.

b. pertaining to or of the nature of idealism.

 

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We're absolutely on topic, Thump. You brought a topic up for some debate. It doesn't jive with your previous posts. Someone brought it up. Get over it.

[Cocos Disciples]

As for my IDEAL pitching staff:

 

Walter Johnson

Cy Young

Roger Clemens

Pedro Martinez (1998-2002)

Greg Maddux

 

Dennis Eckersley

Mariano Rivera

Rollie Fingers

[TheKilo]

Not really. Ideal doesn't mean the best.

 

The definition of ideal is "principle or value that one actively pursues as a goal"

 

We were pursuing our view of a valued pitcher. Which means it didn't have to be the best. My ideal pitcher was that combination. Do I think it's the best? Of course not. But it was still my opinion on an ideal pitcher.

 

Now please let's stay on topic.

 

Typically people learn parts of speech in like 3rd grade.

 

Yes, that may be the definition of ideal, when used as a noun.

 

You used it as an adjective.

 

Ergo, you're wrong.

[VaTechV-Tek]

learns? Also your use of of ergo reminds me of that scene in Get Shorty - hilarious.

[BSN07]

1. Pedro

2.Clemens

3.Koufax

4.Young

5.W. Johnson