The C's continue to slide

[Mr Crunchy]

here in boston if you hung a banner for 2007 CONFERENCE FINALIST PARTICIPANT you would look like a f***ing douchebag

 

in fact i think any franchise that hangs anything less than championship banners up are frauds and that goes for the bruins and the red sox patriots...

all of em

 

ever see meet the faulkers??

ever see deniros reaction when he saw all those participant ribbons gaylord faulker had?

 

it was red auerbach that said

show me a good loser and ill show you a loser.

 

remember kevin millarleading the 2003 AMERICAN LEAGUE WILD CARD WINNERS with the""cowboy up"" slogan??

he looked like a f***ing retard and a poser

i wanted to be far away after he put that tshirt on but the pink hat crew ran with it and all i heard for 3 more weeks was COWBOY UP

this is boston

the closest you'll get to see a cowboy is at the gay bar in brookline village

 

anyway for better or worse

the celtics bar has been set very very high

anything less than an NBA title isnt a good year

its been miserable here for 20 years

 

weve been drafting s*** since billups and mercer came instead of tim duncan

paul pierce is the exception

 

duncan wouldve given us a title by now

 

these 2 guys instantly make the celts a 50 win team in 2008

a scoring forward and a legit big man will turn this team around

will they be able to win it all with 1 of these guys??

probably not in 08 but at least you have a block to build to around

 

you cant get proffesionals to purposely tank a game and you dont want these young kids getting used to losing either

however

im hoping they get the best lottery position available and if that means losing out then i have no moral objections in doing so and i find it rather amusing to have anyone question my loyalty to the celtics

 

friday nite the starting 5 of the celts will be younger than most of the ivy league schools starting 5

 

we're young

we got some talent that needs to be developed but we need some instant help and we can get that via the draft for the 1st time in a while

[jacksonianmarch]

I hope the celtics get Oden. It would be fun to watch. The only boston team I like is the celtics.

[BoSox34]

I love how people keep saying we need a win to boost the team morale...like whatever morale that the team has left is really going to change after one win following a streak of 18 losses.

[Manny Goes Boom]

I love how people keep saying we need a win to boost the team morale...like whatever morale that the team has left is really going to change after one win following a streak of 18 losses.

 

Have you even played basketball? It's not fun getting your head kicked in for that long. A win would help morale and let them know that they can actually win every once in awhile.

[Manny Goes Boom]

these 2 guys instantly make the celts a 50 win team in 2008

a scoring forward and a legit big man will turn this team around

will they be able to win it all with 1 of these guys??

probably not in 08 but at least you have a block to build to around

 

 

That's a HUGE turnaround due to drafting ONE guy. I extremely highly doubt either one gives the Celtics (at the pace their on they might win 25 games) a 25 game turnaround.

[BoSox34]

Have you even played basketball? It's not fun getting your head kicked in for that long. A win would help morale and let them know that they can actually win every once in awhile.

 

Wow...you got me good, of course I've never played basketball, that's why I'm on the high school team...and the NBA is a business. They're paid millions of dollars, they'll get over it. The only people I'd feel bad for would be the fans because they're the ones paying to follow the team. The players are living a dream life with money, cars, and females everywhere they look. Why the f*** should I feel sorry for them? I just want them to win and unfortunately, one of the only ways to actually bring back championship basketball to Boston is to try to draft either Oden or Durant.

[jacksonianmarch]

the fans will get a very good reward if Oden comes to the garden/fleetcenter.

[See Red]

With Oden the Celtics are a 50 win team? ********. The Cavaliers missed the playoffs the year they drafted Lebron and the Nuggets wouldn't have seen the playoffs if they hadn't signed Andre Miller, and traded for Marcus Camby the season before. And I doubt Oden will be better than Lebron or Carmelo were in their rookie campaigns.

 

And Bosox, do us all a favor and stop trying to pass yourself off as a Celtics fan.

[TheKilo]

With Oden the Celtics are a 50 win team? ********. The Cavaliers missed the playoffs the year they drafted Lebron and the Nuggets wouldn't have seen the playoffs if they hadn't signed Andre Miller, and traded for Marcus Camby the season before. And I doubt Oden will be better than Lebron or Carmelo were in their rookie campaigns.

 

And Bosox, do us all a favor and stop trying to pass yourself off as a Celtics fan.

 

 

Dude...you don't even know. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.

 

He's been Celtics fan his whole life omgzzzzzzzz

[BoSox34]

With Oden the Celtics are a 50 win team? ********. The Cavaliers missed the playoffs the year they drafted Lebron and the Nuggets wouldn't have seen the playoffs if they hadn't signed Andre Miller, and traded for Marcus Camby the season before. And I doubt Oden will be better than Lebron or Carmelo were in their rookie campaigns.

 

And Bosox, do us all a favor and stop trying to pass yourself off as a Celtics fan.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the Cavs have a legitimate future hall of fame candidate (Paul Pierce), A PF whose ready to breakout (Al Jefferson), and a player like Greg Oden or Kevin Durant?

[BoSox34]

And Bosox, do us all a favor and stop trying to pass yourself off as a Celtics fan.

 

What does that even mean? you're an idiot.

[See Red]

Correct me if I'm wrong' date=' but did the Cavs have a legitimate future hall of fame candidate (Paul Pierce), A PF whose ready to breakout (Al Jefferson), and a player like Greg Oden or Kevin Durant?[/quote']

 

They had an All-Star center (Zydrunas Ilgauskas), a PF who WAS breaking out (Carlos Boozer), and Lebron James -- who's better than both Oden and Durant.

[BoSox34]

I'd still take next year's Celtics (if they have Oden or Durant) over the 35-27 2004 Cavaliers.

[Manny Goes Boom]

Correct me if I'm wrong' date=' but did the Cavs have a legitimate future hall of fame candidate (Paul Pierce), A PF whose ready to breakout (Al Jefferson), and a player like Greg Oden or Kevin Durant?[/quote']

 

It's sure doing them a hell of a lot of good with the PF whose ready to break out and the future HOF'er this year isn't it?

[BoSox34]

It's sure doing them a hell of a lot of good with the PF whose ready to break out and the future HOF'er this year isn't it?

 

If you haven't noticed, Paul Pierce was out for over a month...

[Manny Goes Boom]

If you haven't noticed' date=' Paul Pierce was out for over a month...[/quote']

 

HOLY s***! That's breaking news to me. WOW...what the HELL was wrong with him? No s*** smartass. I really don't think it would have mattered THAT much.

[BoSox34]

HOLY s***! That's breaking news to me. WOW...what the HELL was wrong with him? No s*** smartass. I really don't think it would have mattered THAT much.

 

...are you sure about that? Their record was 2-22 during Pierce's absence....

[Manny Goes Boom]

...are you sure about that? Their record was 2-22 during Pierce's absence....

 

Well you can't get much worse than that. True story, but I'm saying how much better would they have been with him?

[BoSox34]

Well you can't get much worse than that. True story' date=' but I'm saying how much better would they have been with him?[/quote']

 

To be honest with you, I think that if they had stayed healthy for the most part throught the whole season, they'd still be in the race for the Atlantic. They lost their top shotblocker Theo Ratliff for the season (as old as he may be) only a few games into the season, and then lost Tony Allen for the season right as he started to turn the corner and regain his athleticism, then they lost Pierce for 24 games as you know. Also, their second best player, Al Jefferson, missed a decent chunk of the beginning of the season due to injury.

[Manny Goes Boom]

To be honest with you' date=' I think that if they had stayed healthy for the most part throught the whole season, they'd still be in the race for the Atlantic. They lost their top shotblocker Theo Ratliff for the season (as old as he may be) only a few games into the season, and then lost Tony Allen for the season right as he started to turn the corner and regain his athleticism, then they lost Pierce for 24 games as you know. Also, their second best player, Al Jefferson, missed a decent chunk of the beginning of the season due to injury.[/quote']

 

Well, the Atlantic leader is only 3 games over, and everyone else is below .500, so that opinion could be acceptable to me. Granted, you think Pierce, Allen and Jefferson make up for 14 wins? I'd agree (maybe not to the extreme of 14 games) if the Celtics start winning but if not, well then ythat shows they still woulda sucked while healthy. But isn't that what you want anyway? Lose out and draft mister 25 game turn-around?

[See Red]

As much as I hate being realistic...

 

Oden isn't dominating on the college level. Really good? Yeah. Dominant? Hardly.

 

He's averaging 15 and 9 with a little over 3 blocks. What makes you think those numbers will improve as a rookie in the NBA?

[BoSox34]

Well' date=' the Atlantic leader is only 3 games over, and everyone else is below .500, so that opinion could be acceptable to me. Granted, you think Pierce, Allen and Jefferson make up for 14 wins? I'd agree (maybe not to the extreme of 14 games) if the Celtics start winning but if not, well then ythat shows they still woulda sucked while healthy. But isn't that what you want anyway? Lose out and draft mister 25 game turn-around?[/quote']

 

I just think they never had the oppurtunity to click and develop any kind of chemistry which is important for such a young team. They never really had a long period of time where everyone was healthy.

[BoSox34]

As much as I hate being realistic...

 

Oden isn't dominating on the college level. Really good? Yeah. Dominant? Hardly.

 

He's averaging 15 and 9 with a little over 3 blocks. What makes you think those numbers will improve as a rookie in the NBA?

 

Give it time. He hasn't really had the chance to dominate yet and he's still recovering from his injury. I expect his play to really hit a new level come tournament time when he's healed and he really has a better understanding of how he can be most effective in their offensive. He's definitely already showing that he's a gamechanger on the defensive end as I've seen players completely avoid going near him in fear of being rejected. I think his offensive and defensive game, for that matter, will only progress with time.

[Manny Goes Boom]

Give it time. He hasn't really had the chance to dominate yet and he's still recovering from his injury. I expect his play to really hit a new level come tournament time when he's healed and he really has a better understanding of how he can be most effective in their offensive. He's definitely already showing that he's a gamechanger on the defensive end as I've seen players completely avoid going near him in fear of being rejected. I think his offensive and defensive game' date=' for that matter, will only progress with time.[/quote']

 

A better understanding? Thats a crock of s***. Dude you talk like he hasn't been out there. He's BEEN playing. He DAMN well better understand what his role in their offense is. Understanding doesn't have to do with his injury, that's something that comes between the ears.

[BoSox34]

A better understanding? Thats a crock of s***. Dude you talk like he hasn't been out there. He's BEEN playing. He DAMN well better understand what his role in their offense is. Understanding doesn't have to do with his injury' date=' that's something that comes between the ears.[/quote']

 

He's a freshman and he's still adjusting to playing at the college level. There's a big difference between playing high school ball and playing at one of the top basketball universities in the country, and the injury only holds him back from being the player that he can be. Like I said, come tournament time, I expect Oden to be receiving the same attention from the media as Durant is now for his domination.

[ARod2212]

As much as I hate being realistic...

 

Oden isn't dominating on the college level. Really good? Yeah. Dominant? Hardly.

 

He's averaging 15 and 9 with a little over 3 blocks. What makes you think those numbers will improve as a rookie in the NBA?

He's what, 18, 19 years old? Centers in the NBA are a scarce commodity. He'll probably be a good one.

[See Red]

He's a freshman and he's still adjusting to playing at the college level. There's a big difference between playing high school ball and playing at one of the top basketball universities in the country' date=' and the injury only holds him back from being the player that he can be. Like I said, come tournament time, I expect Oden to be receiving the same attention from the media as Durant is now for his domination.[/quote']

 

My god... you make little sense.

 

You don't think the transition from college to NBA is a bigger step than High School (at the level he was playing at for sure) to college? You guys are expecting a 50 win team next year on the back of a rookie who apparently needs 2/3 of a season to adjust.

[See Red]

He's what' date=' 18, 19 years old? Centers in the NBA are a scarce commodity. He'll probably be a good one.[/quote']

 

This is all in reference to someone predicting a 50 win season out of the Celtics next year based solely on drafting Oden.

[Manny Goes Boom]

He's a freshman and he's still adjusting to playing at the college level. There's a big difference between playing high school ball and playing at one of the top basketball universities in the country' date=' and the injury only holds him back from being the player that he can be. Like I said, come tournament time, I expect Oden to be receiving the same attention from the media as Durant is now for his domination.[/quote']

 

Weak excuse IMO. He came to OSU with HUGE expectations and he's got the body of a 30 year old (looks 30 too).

 

So you're saying OSU's going to win the National Championship?

[BoSox34]

This is all in reference to someone predicting a 50 win season out of the Celtics next year based solely on drafting Oden.

 

My god... you make little sense.

 

You don't think the transition from college to NBA is a bigger step than High School (at the level he was playing at for sure) to college? You guys are expecting a 50 win team next year on the back of a rookie who apparently needs 2/3 of a season to adjust.

 

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. I wasn't the one who predicted a 50 win season in 2008, that was Mr. Crunchy. Don't be putting words in my mouth. I don't think it's out of the question that they could win the division but I agree with you that it'd definitely take a little while for him to adjust to the NBA game just like he's adjusting to the college game.