Yankees and Mientkiewicz agree to terms

[jacksonianmarch]

Yes.

 

If Igawa gets Randy Johnson's run support numbers, and replicates his ERA, then absolutely.

 

That is what I am saying. Igawa doesnt have Randy's upside. He doesnt have the snarling, coming right at ya type of upside that Randy has. But at 43, slider flat, fastball slow, coming off injury we have to be honest here. His upside is something we wouldnt even see until May and maybe once per month would he be vintage. The other times, he would suck anus.

[CrespoBlows]

That is what I am saying. Igawa doesnt have Randy's upside. He doesnt have the snarling' date=' coming right at ya type of upside that Randy has. But at 43, slider flat, fastball slow, coming off injury we have to be honest here. His upside is something we wouldnt even see until May and maybe once per month would he be vintage. The other times, he would suck anus.[/quote']

 

His perphial numbers are still there. His K/9 is still pretty high, his WHIP was pretty low. He just was really bad with runners in scoring position. If he gets a little luck his way, then he could be a good pitcher.

[jacksonianmarch]

His perphial numbers are still there. His K/9 is still pretty high' date=' his WHIP was pretty low. He just was really bad with runners in scoring position. If he gets a little luck his way, then he could be a good pitcher.[/quote']

 

but what are the chances that he improves while recovering from back surgery and being a yr older. He never adjusted to age, his body just happened to hold out longer than most. You can only power 2 pitches by people for so long. He should have taken a page out of Mussina's book and slowed down the slider, and maybe worked on the splitter that was actually pretty nice last yr, but he never used it.

[TheKilo]

but what are the chances that he improves while recovering from back surgery and being a yr older. He never adjusted to age' date=' his body just happened to hold out longer than most. You can only power 2 pitches by people for so long. He should have taken a page out of Mussina's book and slowed down the slider, and maybe worked on the splitter that was actually pretty nice last yr, but he never used it.[/quote']

 

If the peripherals are still there and he's going to be healthy off surgery, he'll be better than Igawa easily.

[jacksonianmarch]

If the peripherals are still there and he's going to be healthy off surgery' date=' he'll be better than Igawa easily.[/quote']

 

There is no guarantee he'd be healthy. His peripherals were declining as well. He had his lowest K/9, BB/9, K/BB in 8 years. I am one of those who believes that his numbers were artifically deflated in 05 and inflated in 06. I picture him as giving us 120 innings or so of 5ERA ball if he can play. That back is no joke, and it took him a LONG time to get back from his last one.

[a700hitter]

If the peripherals are still there and he's going to be healthy off surgery' date=' he'll be better than Igawa easily.[/quote']He'll be better than Igawa after he's dead for 10 years. Igawa shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Randy Johnson.

[jacksonianmarch]

we'll see 700. I find your newfound RJ optimism refreshing.

[a700hitter]

we'll see 700. I find your newfound RJ optimism refreshing.

My gut reaction when Randy was obtained by the Yankees was that I was upset. My reaction when he left town for prospects was relief. These were my honest emotional reactions. Maybe one or more of these prospects will be good major leaguers in a couple of years... or maybe they'll just be 3 turkeys that will have been forgotten. Right now, I am glad that big ugly lefty is out of town.

 

BTW: Just because I revelled in his failures in pinstripes doesn't mean that I loved for that he was a Yankee. I also revel in ARod's failures, but I'd take him on the Sox for prospect (blue-chippers too) in a heart-beat.

[jacksonianmarch]

My gut reaction when Randy was obtained by the Yankees was that I was upset. My reaction when he left town for prospects was relief. These were my honest emotional reactions. Maybe one or more of these prospects will be good major leaguers in a couple of years... or maybe they'll just be 3 turkeys that will have been forgotten. Right now, I am glad that big ugly lefty is out of town.

 

BTW: Just because I revelled in his failures in pinstripes doesn't mean that I loved for that he was a Yankee. I also revel in ARod's failures, but I'd take him on the Sox for prospect (blue-chippers too) in a heart-beat.

 

I heard rumors of a Jered Weaver, Scott Shields, and Ervin Santana offer for ARod early in the yr, from the angels papers. Since then, though, nothing. I think it was more rumor and innuendo than actual offer.

[a700hitter]

I heard rumors of a Jered Weaver' date=' Scott Shields, and Ervin Santana offer for ARod early in the yr, from the angels papers. Since then, though, nothing. I think it was more rumor and innuendo than actual offer.[/quote']That's a lot of major league pitching to give up in one transaction. I could see Weaver or Santana and Shields and a prospect for ARod.

[CrespoBlows]

I don't get it, why would the Angels offer two established young pitchers, and an elite set-up man, for Rodriguez? There's no way in hell that deal was even discussed.

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't get it' date=' why would the Angels offer two established young pitchers, and an elite set-up man, for Rodriguez? There's no way in hell that deal was even discussed.[/quote']

 

like I said. It was the only rumor making the rounds about a month and a half ago. I didnt really think it was worth posting cause I couldnt see it happen.