Are they prospects or pretenders?

[scaffolds]

Matt Goodson, Chris Jones and Gary Galvez have similar stuff, a fastball in the 89-91 range and while their breaking stuff or off speed is some what different in general are consider to be no more than average at best ML pitchers. Goodson and Jones are projected to be starters but like with fellow Sox prospect David Pauley their ceiling isn't more than end of rotation type. Goodson and Jones in college had health issues and while they have been healthy as a pro in general that's always a question mark. Goodson at Wilmington in 2006 saw his ERA jump to 3.92 from 2.76 at Greenville in 2005 and while more than likely he will pitch in Portland in 2007 it needs to see how he handles the jump. Jones on the other hand while he held his own at Greenville in 2006 its going to pitch not only in a hitters park, but in a hitters league like the California's league. Galvez whom the Sox signed out of Cuba back in 2003 really hasn't pitched like many expected and in 2006 at Wilmington really struggle in his first year in high A to the point that he went from the high 20's Red Sox prospect list to not be found in the top 50, however he may be the type of pitcher that needs to repeat a level to have sucess like he did in 2005. Galvez projects as a middle reliever one who could pitch back to back days. Galvez like Jones needs to see how they handle the California lleague in 2007.

[CrespoBlows]

Moss had one hell of a playoff series, which seems to be carrying over in the DWL. He's at a .327/.383/.582/.983 line, with 3 HR's in 55 AB's.

 

I don't think he'll ever be a regular with the Red Sox, but I think he's ready to break out.

[scaffolds]

With Drew, Manny and Pena as the Sox corner ofs Moss won't be a regular for the next two years, but i expect to see Moss in Boston in 2008.

[Mr Crunchy]

Team Player, Pos. 2005 Org

1996 John Garrett, rhp Out of baseball

1997 John Curtice, lhp Out of baseball

1998 Adam Everett, ss Astros

1999 Rick Asadoorian, of Reds

2000 Phil Dumatrait, lhp Reds

2001 Kelly Shoppach, c (2nd round) Red Sox

2002 Jon Lester, lhp (2nd round) Red Sox

2003 David Murphy, of Red Sox

2004 Dustin Pedroia, ss (2nd round) Red Sox

2005 Jacoby Ellsbury, of Red Sox

 

these are the sox last 10 top draft picks

 

rick asadorian played locally in northbridge and was a cant miss #1 draft pick

anyone know where he is in the reds org??

[jacksonianmarch]

Team Player, Pos. 2005 Org

1996 John Garrett, rhp Out of baseball

1997 John Curtice, lhp Out of baseball

1998 Adam Everett, ss Astros

1999 Rick Asadoorian, of Reds

2000 Phil Dumatrait, lhp Reds

2001 Kelly Shoppach, c (2nd round) Red Sox

2002 Jon Lester, lhp (2nd round) Red Sox

2003 David Murphy, of Red Sox

2004 Dustin Pedroia, ss (2nd round) Red Sox

2005 Jacoby Ellsbury, of Red Sox

 

these are the sox last 10 top draft picks

 

rick asadorian played locally in northbridge and was a cant miss #1 draft pick

anyone know where he is in the reds org??

 

 

he is pitching. He couldnt hit for s***, but he had a stellar arm. I got to see him play a few times in all star games in high school.

[Mr Crunchy]

jackson

he was a centerfielder

and

he had the highest signing bonus in sox history at 1.75M when he signed

[jacksonianmarch]

jackson

he was a centerfielder

and

he had the highest signing bonus in sox history at 1.75M when he signed

 

i know he was a CFer. He sucked in the minors and when he was dealt to the reds for Hermansen, they converted him to a pitcher last I checked.

 

Edit: Just checked baseball cube. Looks like he sucked as a pitcher and they kept him in the OF. AA seems to be as high as he can perform. He is running out of time.

[Mr Crunchy]

a pitcher??

no s***

 

we traded him to the cardinals at 1st

they must have traded him to cinci

 

i saw him play over at fino field in milford several times

he appeared to be the real deal at the time he was drafted but again,duquette played f*** f*** with mark texeira and lost him,then he paid this guy 1.75M and mark my words

after 7 years of baseball he evidently cant hit big time pitching

 

i assume he has his money still

hes an armenian,a race of people that you never see starving

 

as my old friend gary hagopian used to say when we worked together

SEAN

IT TAKES 2 JEWS TO OUTSMART AN ARMENIAN

WHY ARE YOU,A 1/2 BRED MICK GUNIEAU

ARGUING WITH ME??

 

now that was a boy who could shut me the f*** up

[scaffolds]

Again getting back to the thread;

 

After being traded to the Red Sox from the Mets organization in 2005 Ian Bladergroen wasn't all the way back from wrist surgery and because of that and the fact that he played in one of hardest park for a left handed power hitter to play in (Wilmington) his numbers where down. In 2006 Spring training Bladergroen and the Sox organization claimed that he was fully healthy, but again he put up very similar numbers that he did in 2005 with the exception that he double his HR out put from 4 to 9, however those numbers where not what the organization was expecting from the big first baseman. Which leads of the question was the park the reason for his numbers? Was Bladergroen fully healthy in 2006? or was it because of hitting ability? In 2007 must likely in Portland the Sox organization expect Bladergroen to answer that question.

[jacksonianmarch]

If Bladergroen's power is so adversely affected by the right field seats, how will he be in fenway, with one of the least favorable fence arrangements for a powerful lefty in the majors.

 

I think they got him for Monkeybitch, right? I was surprised at the time, but it looks like this kid is sunk.

[scaffolds]

First of all, i haven't been to Wilmington's park, but from different sources that are familiar with the park that i have talk to claim that when the ball its hit in the air to right field in that park the ball dies. Again just going by what i was told.

[jacksonianmarch]

balls die in RF of fenway too.

[a700hitter]

Team Player, Pos. 2005 Org

1996 John Garrett, rhp Out of baseball

1997 John Curtice, lhp Out of baseball

1998 Adam Everett, ss Astros

1999 Rick Asadoorian, of Reds

2000 Phil Dumatrait, lhp Reds

2001 Kelly Shoppach, c (2nd round) Red Sox

2002 Jon Lester, lhp (2nd round) Red Sox

2003 David Murphy, of Red Sox

2004 Dustin Pedroia, ss (2nd round) Red Sox

2005 Jacoby Ellsbury, of Red Sox

 

these are the sox last 10 top draft picks

 

rick asadorian played locally in northbridge and was a cant miss #1 draft pick

anyone know where he is in the reds org??

It's list like this that cause me to favor trades like Bucholz and Bowden for Cordero. This is a list of first round picks. The guys picked after these guys usually pump gas two or three years after they are drafted.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's list like this that cause me to favor trades like Bucholz and Bowden for Cordero. This is a list of first round picks. The guys picked after these guys usually pump gas two or three years after they are drafted.

 

they certainly dont have a great track record.

[Mr Crunchy]

agreed

this is why i could give a f*** less about ""prospects"" who havent hit pawtucket yet

another reason why im not whippin my skippy over dustin pedroia either

 

i love to be proven wrong when it comes to these things.

[VA Sox Fan]

agreed

this is why i could give a f*** less about ""prospects"" who havent hit pawtucket yet

another reason why im not whippin my skippy over dustin pedroia either

 

i love to be proven wrong when it comes to these things.

 

Hey Seano.

 

I'm heading to Spring Training to see 3 games the last week in March (Pirates, Twins, D-Rays)....I'll be sure to report back on the likes of Pedroia etc I still wish they had re-signed Loretta. But who knows maybe Dustan will turn into another Hanley Ramirez but at 2nd, of course.

[a700hitter]

Hey Seano.

 

I'm heading to Spring Training to see 3 games the last week in March (Pirates, Twins, D-Rays)....I'll be sure to report back on the likes of Pedroia etc I still wish they had re-signed Loretta. But who knows maybe Dustan will turn into another Hanley Ramirez but at 2nd, of course.

It seems like quite a few of you will be going to Ft. Myers the last week of March. Is anyone going down the first week when a lot of prospects are on display?

[Mr Crunchy]

i'll be in orlando during washingtons b'day week.

pitchers and catchers arent there yet i dont think??

ft meyers in march??

courageous people

now a days youre even money to get wiped out by an old person who cant see over the steering wheel

 

Gods waiting room as they say

luckily we have the real deal 25 miles east of here in april

[VA Sox Fan]

i'll be in orlando during washingtons b'day week.

pitchers and catchers arent there yet i dont think??

ft meyers in march??

courageous people

now a days youre even money to get wiped out by an old person who cant see over the steering wheel

 

Gods waiting room as they say

luckily we have the real deal 25 miles east of here in april

 

I think pitchers/catchers report 2/15. Orlando is about 3 hours from Ft. Myers.

 

The blue hairs live in Orlando too, be careful.

[AZBlue]

Andy Yount was the Texas pitching prospect with a maturity and alcohol problem that led to a severed tendon in his pitching hand.

[a700hitter]

Andy Yount was the Texas pitching prospect with a maturity and alcohol problem that led to a severed tendon in his pitching hand.

He was the best pitching prospect the organization had ever seen when he was drafted.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think pitchers/catchers report 2/15. Orlando is about 3 hours from Ft. Myers.

 

The blue hairs live in Orlando too, be careful.

 

hey there kind sir, welcome to talksox. Those daggone blue hairs do suck. From the sounds of it, Mr C. wants to, how do you say it, ass-rape them with a thorncocked dildo. I think those were his words.

[VA Sox Fan]

hey there kind sir' date=' welcome to talksox. Those daggone blue hairs do suck. From the sounds of it, Mr C. wants to, how do you say it, ass-rape them with a thorncocked dildo. I think those were his words.[/quote']

 

Thanks jackson, I've kinda re-surfaced and for the record it's "kind ma'am (or girl, lady or bi-atch...LOL). Yep, that's our Crunch, he does have a unique and hilarious way w/ words!!

[jacksonianmarch]

Sorry for the confusion. We don't have many women on this board. Nice to have ya back I guess as I see you joined a yr ago. Why the vacation?

[VA Sox Fan]

Sorry for the confusion. We don't have many women on this board. Nice to have ya back I guess as I see you joined a yr ago. Why the vacation?

 

No problem w/ the confusion.

 

I was posting on a smaller forum that has pretty much died. Noticed my bro Crunch was having success over here and thought I'd jump back in. Plus, I'm so damn excited about Spring Training and the season beginning, and it's a relief to read good/knowlegeable discussions/posts and good banter w/ Yank fans (which is rare especially at the Boston Globe forum, what a nightmare that place can be).

[jacksonianmarch]

No problem w/ the confusion.

 

I was posting on a smaller forum that has pretty much died. Noticed my bro Crunch was having success over here and thought I'd jump back in. Plus, I'm so damn excited about Spring Training and the season beginning, and it's a relief to read good/knowlegeable discussions/posts and good banter w/ Yank fans (which is rare especially at the Boston Globe forum, what a nightmare that place can be).

 

I perused the boston globe forum and let me personally apologize for those twitty, bandwagon, pubescent yankee fanbase over there. Punks, all of em. I wanted to sign up and tell em to knock it off, but alas, I decided to watch the football game instead and drink beer.

[Mr Crunchy]

jack

this ones older than me and

she has the ability to have the mouth of an unflushed bronx toilet in july after the church bean supper over on 159th street

 

god i love her

and she wears her sox allegiance on her sleeve shall we say

 

ya

i can make here to jaxonville in 18 hours if my wife takes a sedative

but i dont have family in jaxonville

i have family in miami which is a mere 406 miles from the southern tip of jaxonville

this is where the fun always begins with road blocks set up by inventive sherrif dpts,road construction and these fuking french canadiens and their mobile homes who pollute the white sands of floridas east coast till april

 

dont eat where these people eat folks....believe me

awful things go on in the kitchens when the franco canadiens dine with their non tipping tendencies

[jacksonianmarch]

a mouth of an unflushed bronx toilet? WOWZAH. I assume this is without the crack, smack, heroine, or seminal/vaginal fluids on the cover? Just kidding.

[Ray10]

Outside of Moss, Lowrie and Spann the rest of those guys really are pretenders. They have yet to prove us otherwise. Just haven't seem anything in them that shows they are major league calibre like Lowrie, Spann and Moss.

[Mr Crunchy]

shes a good lady despite her loyalty to the pat robertson contingent of the GOP that thinks that scientific advancement is a satanic plot and flouride threatens our way of life

 

moss??

id like a bit more pop although ive never seen him actually play

great hitters that make it will get better the farther up the ladder they go

power will come with age as well