Opening of a market?

[jacksonianmarch]

I find it interesting that so many people talk about this opening up a Japanese market for red sox baseball. For one, TV revenues are shared with the revenue sharing plan. 100% of all merchandise is shared. And, Fenway is packed to capacity at every single seat for years to come. Where will the extra revenue be coming from? If it is for future prospects down the line, that is another dumb idea, because the posting process makes it a blind bid rather than a FA's choice. This doesnt do much on the business end. On the field, who knows.

[Cityofchampions33]

advertizing, red sox merchandise, tv in japan, tourism in boston, etc. I'm no marketing whiz, but it's not like there won't be money made.

[jacksonianmarch]

advertizing' date=' red sox merchandise, tv in japan, tourism in boston, etc. I'm no marketing whiz, but it's not like there won't be money made.[/quote']

 

Money will be made, no doubt, but all the money that they will make will be subject to revenue sharing. It is hard to believe that they will recoup more than the 45 mil they are spending just to talk to him.

[ORS]

Signage at Fenway - probably not that significant

Advertising on NESN - probably somewhat significant

Broadcast fees for all non-game programming on NESN - when you consider that a part-owner of the Sox is a very successful TV exec, this is probably the most significant

Japanese fans at Fenway - this won't increase revenues from tickets because they are already selling out games, but I'll bet there's a little spike in Fenway tours if they come to see him

 

The potential to make money outside of general revenues certainly exists. This guy is like Lebron James in Japan. No, it probably won't be enough to recover the entire posting fee. That said, it will certainly be more than what they get from the Japanese market now, which is nothing.

[SuperManny]

Money will be made' date=' no doubt, but all the money that they will make will be subject to revenue sharing. It is hard to believe that they will recoup more than the 45 mil they are spending just to talk to him.[/quote']

 

No one says they have to recoup the $40M+ though because that would be assuming that he was worth bidding $0 on. The Sox need to recoup what they bid over the actual value of him as a pitcher which is hard to quantify. If Santana was put to a bidding the Sox would bid on him even though he's not opening any markets because of his value to the team and to winning. This is something I think people lose track of. Clearly the $40M+ bid is more money than he's probably worth but he's still worth a good portion of it on his own without opening up any markets.

[Beckett95]

This should help the Sox bring in some more Japanese ball players.

 

http://japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=ksaito he looks like he could be a solid #2 or #3 pitcher in the MLB.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Yeop_Lee I wouldnt mind taking this guy away from the Yankees. Hes a HR machine in Japan

 

and theres other like Kouji Uehara and Hirotoshi Ishii

[jacksonianmarch]

again, how the hell will it help with negotiations when all of these guys will be subject to the posting process. Your logic is flawed.

[jsinger121]

again' date=' how the hell will it help with negotiations when all of these guys will be subject to the posting process. Your logic is flawed.[/quote']

 

Not all are subject to the posting process. If they are a free agent they can sign with anyone much like Matsui did.

[jacksonianmarch]

Not all are subject to the posting process. If they are a free agent they can sign with anyone much like Matsui did.

 

right, but I think the Japanese ballteams are going to be a little smarter than the Giants were with Matsui. Japanese position players in the US were in their infancy when Matsui came over. Expect the teams to post earlier so they at least get something back.

[Cityofchampions33]

I dont think it was the Giants decision, Matsuzaka, if eh waited 2 more years could ahve come over as a FA, it depends on the years of service

[SuperManny]

There is also one team in Japan (don't remember which one) that hates the posting process and refuses to use it because they thinks it makes the Japanese League look like a minor league for MLB. Their players will become FA's if they don't sign them.