Kevin Millwood

[ksushi]

Ok, here is the ksushi rundown on millwood and why we need him.

 

Ok, Fenway is the best hitters back drop in the major leagues, but (this is where i start pulling things out of memory stop me if I sound like too much of an idiot) Millwood throws a pretty good sinker and has the capability to go 200 innings. That could be a guy who could be a horse for this team.

 

There is a risk factor to signing him I agree, he has some control issues, not clement-esque control issues, but like arroyo-esque control issues where it isn't a problem really until he leaves a 0-2 slider over the plate alittle bit and it gets launched into orbit in the deciding game of a home yankees series and puts them on top, damon probably hit it too. I don't want to make him out to be pedro, he does get out of sync at times a la Javier Vazquez '04 in the 2nd half but to a lesser extent, but this team needs a potential horse who can maintain a low ERA and rack some innings. His pitch count can get high quickly at times, but if the coaching staff can succeed in doing with him what they tried to do with Lowe, they can really make a great pitcher out of him. That is, try and get him to heavily rely on the sinker and get guys to turn over on it. A lot less going for the strike outs considering he averages only 7 per nine which isnt terrible but does go for the K too often.

 

I don't want to make it out like the phillies and braves had bad pitching coaches, obviously they didn't, leo mazzone is among one of the best of all time, but maybe thats an approach they didn't try with him. They may have fine tuned his mechanics, but he was never labelled a true sinker baller when maybe thats the way he should approach games. This season he threw a higher percentage sinkers than he had in years past, and he got results.

 

Oh, before I forget this, he didn't have a good relationship with the phillies pitching coach I remember that. they weren't pals

 

All that being said, I'm not concerned about him having a bad year just because his last was good, our pitching coach is quality and can keep him in sync well, and with millwood being older and hopefully wiser it will help him keep his composure on the mound. Perhaps thats something the braves didn't want to wait around on considering everyone on their roster is always an interchangable part. The question is, are you willing to take a risk that you may have an ace or you may have someone who is at least better than your 4-5 right now, and how much would you pay for it?

 

My answer is yes, and 45 million over 4 with whatever insentives you can give to make him happy. He isn't a question mark, his ERA will be under 4 and with this team that goes a long way in how his pitching will translate into wins. We need a Millwood.

[elsrbueno]

Ok, here is the ksushi rundown on millwood and why we need him.

 

Ok, Fenway is the best hitters back drop in the major leagues, but (this is where i start pulling things out of memory stop me if I sound like too much of an idiot) Millwood throws a pretty good sinker and has the capability to go 200 innings. That could be a guy who could be a horse for this team.

 

There is a risk factor to signing him I agree, he has some control issues, not clement-esque control issues, but like arroyo-esque control issues where it isn't a problem really until he leaves a 0-2 slider over the plate alittle bit and it gets launched into orbit in the deciding game of a home yankees series and puts them on top, damon probably hit it too. I don't want to make him out to be pedro, he does get out of sync at times a la Javier Vazquez '04 in the 2nd half but to a lesser extent, but this team needs a potential horse who can maintain a low ERA and rack some innings. His pitch count can get high quickly at times, but if the coaching staff can succeed in doing with him what they tried to do with Lowe, they can really make a great pitcher out of him. That is, try and get him to heavily rely on the sinker and get guys to turn over on it. A lot less going for the strike outs considering he averages only 7 per nine which isnt terrible but does go for the K too often.

 

I don't want to make it out like the phillies and braves had bad pitching coaches, obviously they didn't, leo mazzone is among one of the best of all time, but maybe thats an approach they didn't try with him. They may have fine tuned his mechanics, but he was never labelled a true sinker baller when maybe thats the way he should approach games. This season he threw a higher percentage sinkers than he had in years past, and he got results.

 

Oh, before I forget this, he didn't have a good relationship with the phillies pitching coach I remember that. they weren't pals

 

All that being said, I'm not concerned about him having a bad year just because his last was good, our pitching coach is quality and can keep him in sync well, and with millwood being older and hopefully wiser it will help him keep his composure on the mound. Perhaps thats something the braves didn't want to wait around on considering everyone on their roster is always an interchangable part. The question is, are you willing to take a risk that you may have an ace or you may have someone who is at least better than your 4-5 right now, and how much would you pay for it?

 

My answer is yes, and 45 million over 4 with whatever insentives you can give to make him happy. He isn't a question mark, his ERA will be under 4 and with this team that goes a long way in how his pitching will translate into wins. We need a Millwood.

 

I don't think the Sox need Milwood. Yes, he'd be nice to have because pitching depth is always nice to have. However, for the price of Kevin Milwood you could get a couple riskier pitchers for much much less. For example, Wade Miller could be brought back and he's got (IMO) more potential than Milwood but has health questions. Jeff Weaver is out there 2 years younger than Milwood, sure to command less despite also having Scott Boras as an agent, and despite one disastrous season in New York would be a pretty decent #5. Another guy who's still out there is Roger Clemens, a guy I'd much rather see the Sox put money into than a Millwood.

 

Like I've said Millwood's decent, but saying we NEED Millwood is, IMO, overstating it.

[riverside sluggers]

Wade Miller's surgery will keep him out until May or June. I think that got the Sox FO to say "whoah we arent doing that again." Then there's the question, will he be dominant? Or the Wade Miller we knew who lasted 5 or 6 innings because he had averaged 20-35 pitches in the 1st inning. Overall, big no to him.

[MC Hammer]

Wade Miller's surgery will keep him out until May or June. I think that got the Sox FO to say "whoah we arent doing that again." Then there's the question, will he be dominant? Or the Wade Miller we knew who lasted 5 or 6 innings because he had averaged 20-35 pitches in the 1st inning. Overall, big no to him.

Well the Wade Miller from last year was not Wade Miller. I've said this a million times and I know others have too. The last surgery he had kept him under 100% for what would have been a year, but then he got hurt again. Had he not gotten hurt again, trust me, you would have seen a much different pitcher this year. I'm all for dumping him now because he may never be Wade Miller again, and we can't wait, but lets not mistake 05 Wade Miller for a 100% Wade Miller.

[Beckett95]

A source told the Dallas Morning News that the Rangers have already added a fourth year on to their offer to Kevin Millwood, bringing the contract's value to more than $40 million.

Rangers GM Jon Daniels acknowledged having further conversations with Scott Boras on Friday but declined to describe the conversations or to acknowledge if the club had changed its initial offer. Boras was preparing to meet with Red Sox officials tonight to discuss Millwood. Dec. 23 - 10:22 pm et

 

Looks like they might have gotten scared by the Red Sox deciding to pursue him

 

Id go no more than 4 yrs/45 million with him. Hopefully the meeting tonight went well and we can possibly sign him. Hed potentially give the sox one of the top rotations in the league:

 

Schilling (if healthy can dominate)

Wakefield (strong every year)

Beckett (has great stuff)

Millwood (led league in ERA last year)

Papelbon (was effective last year and has top of the rotation potential)

[riverside sluggers]

Boston Herald has just reported that Kevin Millwood was in Boston yesterday to meet with the Sox.

 

There’s more grist for Millwood

By Michael Silverman/ Red Sox Notebook

Saturday, December 24, 2005 - Updated: 12:25 AM EST

 

NEW YORK - Kevin Millwood’s arrival in Boston to meet with Red Sox front office personnel yesterday made it clear that the team was stepping up its bid to sign the free agent right-hander. The Red Sox, according to an industry source, are believed to have already made an offer of four years to Millwood, but he is currently looking for a six-year deal. The obvious middle ground would be five years, which happens to be the length of the deal that another coveted right-hander, A.J. Burnett, got from the Blue Jays. Burnett received an annual average salary of $11 million and Millwood, who is represented by Scott Boras, is believed to be asking for more than that.

 

Boras was in New York yesterday for the introductory press conference of client Johnny Damon, who left the Sox for the Yankees. Boras was expected to join Millwood, 30, in Boston sometime last night. The Rangers are the other team believed to be vying for the services of Millwood, who led the league in ERA last season at 2.86. The Red Sox already have added starter Josh Beckett and want to bolster their rotation further, especially with the acknowledgement that they will have to trade David Wells. Given the team’s deficiencies at center fielder, leadoff hitter and shortstop, Wells might have to be traded to fill those holes.

 

Its hard for me to put my trust in the front office right now, but im gunning for this deal to happen. The Rangers might try and offer more money, but he still might take boston over texas. Considering he'd be on more of a playoff potential team than Texas.

 

Millwood in town for meet and greet

By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | December 24, 2005

 

While Johnny Damon was testing the footlights of Broadway yesterday, the Red Sox were actively engaged in trying to place David Wells in Hollywood and free agent righthander Kevin Millwood in their rotation. According to a team source, Millwood, who led the American League with a 2.86 ERA last season with the Guardians, was in Boston last night to meet with manager Terry Francona and other team officials.

 

Millwood, who turns 31 today and represented by Damon's agent, Scott Boras, earned $7 million last season and is believed to be seeking a five-year deal.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Boston Herald has just reported that Kevin Millwood was in Boston yesterday to meet with the Sox.

 

 

 

Its hard for me to put my trust in the front office right now, but im gunning for this deal to happen. The Rangers might try and offer more money, but he still might take boston over texas. Considering he'd be on more of a playoff potential team than Texas.

 

I'd love to see him here also. But jeez, five years at 11 mil+ with Boras on the scene, sounds like Pedro again.

[ahhchon]

Kevin Millwood would be nice....

Roger Clemens would be better (pay him whatever he wants)

....actually both would be ideal.

 

Curt Schilling

Roger Clemens

Josh Beckett

Kevin Millwood

Tim Wakefield

 

Keith Foulke

Mike Timlin

Guillermo Mota

Jonathan Papelbon

Craig Hansen

Bronson Arroyo

Rudy Saenz

 

.....thats an incredible pitching group....make it happen

 

ANY team that signs roger clemens is "buying" a championship (trying to at least)...

 

the guy is basically only willing to sign one year contracts, one year insanely expensive contracts. he's the last pitcher i would sign. he's old, getting older and is insanely expensive. it's a high risk high reward. you know what you're going to get.. a great season and a slight shutdown at the end of the season.

 

for a reasonable price i would sign millwood. pitching > hitting. especially with schilling and beckett we could use the insurance. the pitching > hitting thing is true, but NO teams pitching > yankee hitting. that lineup is just bonkers right now. i can't possibly imagine how many runs they are going to produce this year. 350+ just from damon, jeter and arod. that's crazy, they still have 6 more guys in the starting lineup.

 

even if we did sign millwood i still feel as the jays has a better staff... slightly less questionmarks.

 

john

[Beckett95]

The Red Sox have taken way too much crap for some pretty sensible decisions. However, if they give Millwood a four-year deal and trade Andy Marte for Coco Crisp, they'll have had one disaster of an offseason. Millwood is a huge gamble for 2007 and beyond. The Red Sox don't need a Carl Pavano of their own. Dec. 24 - 3:44 am et

rotoworld

 

 

i agree with trading marte for crisp is a huge mistake, but i think Millwood is proven enough to give him a four year deal. He has a career era of 3.75 and his coming of his best year. Hed be 35 after his contract is up. Id give him 4/45 but not 5 years

[ksushi]

Where is Millwood a risk? Millwood isn't 29 with a sub 500 winning percentage like pavano was, Millwood didn't have the injury history Pavano had. At around the same age, give or take, Millwood has established himself as a valuable asset to a teams rotation who has pitched the innings and has gotten the results. He is a lock to at least be better than Clement. You can't compare every free agent pitcher to the one s***** one that got a big deal. I would sign Millwood at 4 years with a player option for a fifth year at 9 million, that could be a steal for him if he sucks, a good option if hes happy here and does well, or an oppurtunity for him to capitalize on the market if he is great. The sox will get inventive and find a way to get this done, because if i can see how much of a must this guy has become, the sox can too. There aren't any other options out there for starters and we need to sign one or else we might get thrown into the situation where this season is going down the tubes or we are giving up a john lester or a jon papelbon just for the sake of being alittle bit competitive this season, which would suck for them to do.

 

They need the starter and no, we are not going to sign Clemens. Put the pipes down guys, we aren't getting Tejada, we aren't getting Glaus(not a big deal to me but apparently some people actually wanted this guy), and Roger Clemens is going to sign on as part of the Astros coaching staff and will not be playing next year. Even if he was going to resign somewhere, are you comfortable waiting around for him? You're going to have to and I think with the urgency of some of the matters the sox need to address right now, they can't afford to wait until the end of january to know if this guy is going to sign anywhere, no way. Millwood is a solid option, not a pavano-esque risky option. He is good and we do need him to give us some leverage to deal certain guys for certain pieces that we need.

[Cityofchampions33]

And there's STILL talk of Julio Lugo, which I totally do not understand, there's talk that we trade Wells to LA for Brazoban/Sanchez, and prospects, while after that we swing the prospect for Lugo. I don't understand that at all.

[riverside sluggers]

my take on Lugo, is that the Sox need to upgrade on their defense (4th worst in majors in 05) and Lugo wouldnt not give much help, 20+ errors a season he will average. I still say the same, easier to shift Loretta to shortstop (21 errors in 300+ games played there) and retain Tony as our starting 2nd baseman. Loretta is also a viable option as our leadoff man, .300 career batting avg when leading off.

 

Still do the Wells trade to the Dodgers, then swing those top prospects over to Cleveland for Coco Crisp. In the end we would get Coco Crisp, improve the infield defense at a fraction of a cost compared trying to do a trade with Devil Rays, and very importantly holding onto Marte.

 

Just a thought...

[yankeessuck013]

heres part of the espn insider from today

 

Dec 24 - The Dodgers have jumped to the front of the David Wells trade line, The Boston Globe reported.

The Red Sox would likely be seeking young arms such as Edwin Jackson, Jonathan Broxton, and Chad Billingsley or third baseman Andy LaRoche for Wells, The Globe reports.

 

There's also a chance the Sox could ask for bullpen helps such as Yhency Brazoban or Duaner Sanchez, according to the paper.

 

The Padres' latest offer for Wells revolved around center fielder Dave Roberts and right-handed pitcher Woody Williams, The Globe reports. The Red Sox are said to have little interest in Williams. A little weird that the sox are interested in another third baseman.

 

Rangers pitch Millwood

Dec 24 - Kevin Millwood and his agent, Scott Boras, met with Red Sox brass on Friday.

The Boston Herald reported that the Red Sox have made a four-year offer to Millwood.

 

The Dallas Morning News reported in Saturday's editions that the Rangers had offered Millwood three guaranteed years at around $10 million per year; however, a second source told the Morning News that the team had guaranteed a fourth year that would make the offer worth more than $40 million.

 

Boras is believed to be seeking a five-year deal

 

 

Prelude to a Crisp?

Dec 24 - The Guardians are closing in on a deal that would send outfielder Ryan Langerhans from Atlanta to Cleveland, the Providence Journal reported.

With an acquisition of Langerhans, that would free up the Guardians to make a deal involving Coco Crisp.

The Red Sox would be suitors for Crisp and it's likely the Guardians would ask for prospect Andy Marte in return, the paper reported.

 

Holiday package

Dec 23 - The Devil Rays and Red Sox continued talks Thursday about a deal that could send shortstop Julio Lugo and possibly center fielder Joey Gathright to Boston, the Tampa Tribune reports.

[a700hitter]

I am not sure whether I prefer signing Millwood or taking a one-year flyer on Clemens with a very high pricetag. Whichever way they decide to go, they should decide quickly so that they will have plenty of time to move Wells, Clement and Arroyo to fill the SS and CF holes.

[example1]

I would try to get Izturis from the Dodgers. I know he will not be ready until half way through the season, but he's SO good defensively. Better than Cabrera, as far as I can tell. He also only costs 2.3 million or something. If we could get him along with some arms to trade to Cleveland for Crisp in a deal for Wells (perhaps we pay LA some money), then eventually our lineup would be something like:

 

Crisp

Loretta

Ortiz

Manny

Tek

Trot

Lowell

Youkilis

Izturis

 

Schill

Beckett

Millwood

Wakefield

Papelbon/Clement/Arroyo

 

The left side of our infield would be gg caliber and very solid defensively. Crisp would be a good player in CF, and could move to RF if Trot moves to LF when Manny leaves. THere are lots of options.

[Beckett95]

I would try to get Izturis from the Dodgers. I know he will not be ready until half way through the season, but he's SO good defensively. Better than Cabrera, as far as I can tell. He also only costs 2.3 million or something. If we could get him along with some arms to trade to Cleveland for Crisp in a deal for Wells (perhaps we pay LA some money), then eventually our lineup would be something like:

 

Crisp

Loretta

Ortiz

Manny

Tek

Trot

Lowell

Youkilis

Izturis

 

Schill

Beckett

Millwood

Wakefield

Papelbon/Clement/Arroyo

 

The left side of our infield would be gg caliber and very solid defensively. Crisp would be a good player in CF, and could move to RF if Trot moves to LF when Manny leaves. THere are lots of options.

 

thats a very good team. Defense and Pitching were the biggest reason why the Sox won in 04. Izturis and Lowell are top 5 at their positions defensively. Loretta is solid at 2nd and Youk didnt make one error last year at 1st. Nixon and Crisp are both good and both have pretty good range. Manny can be good sometimes (most of the time he isnt) but as long as hes driving in 140 runs, im happy.

[a700hitter]

I would try to get Izturis from the Dodgers. I know he will not be ready until half way through the season, but he's SO good defensively....The left side of our infield would be gg caliber and very solid defensively. Crisp would be a good player in CF, and could move to RF if Trot moves to LF when Manny leaves. THere are lots of options.

Sounds like a good plan. Who plays SS until he is ready? How is Izturis offensively?

[schillingouttheks]

I am thinking Loretta might move until Cesar is ready, or Graff could try it out. If not, Loretta at SS and Graff at 2B would make me happy until Cesar comes back. Cesar is an insanely good defensive SS, although he's not too well-known for his offensive capabilities. He has a career .261 avg, .295 obp, .338 slg, which makes a career .633 ops. However, because the 2004 Red Sox were defensively fit, and because our rotation/bullpen for 2006 is only getting stronger, I wouldn't mind a dip in the offensive category for a defensive player like Izturis. Over the last 4 seasons, he averages 41 RBIs. I'm pretty sure he was a top of the lineup (leadoff, 2nd hole) batter in LA, so I wouldn't mind those RBIs coming to Boston either. Basically, Izturis as a whole is a decent hitter with a great glove. Although after his injury, we will not know how he will perform once he comes back. Of course though, once he is ready, Loretta will probably already have spent time at SS and if he's doing well and Cesar proves to be a bust, we could use Cesar as a defensive specialist. I like the idea of Cesar.

[Cityofchampions33]

I wonder if instead of trying to get Lugo along with Gathright if we can just get Gathright, he's is just what we need, a young, solid defense, good contact, and very speedy player who is still young.

[schillingouttheks]

Speed is something the Sox haven't been accustomed to too much because anyone can get hit in when Manny and Ortiz are hitting behind them. I would LOVE to have a base stealing threat (we had that with Johnny, but his speed isn't near Gathright's).

 

EDIT: Of course, we are dealing with Tampa Bay here, so I have serious doubts as to whether Gathright will actually end up in Boston.

[Cityofchampions33]

Speed is something the Sox haven't been accustomed to too much because anyone can get hit in when Manny and Ortiz are hitting behind them. I would LOVE to have a base stealing threat (we had that with Johnny, but his speed isn't near Gathright's).

 

Exactly, he's one of the fastest in the MLs and imagine once Ellisbury gets up here, him and Gathright at the top of the lineup. Talk about run production.

[ksushi]

I would try to get Izturis from the Dodgers. I know he will not be ready until half way through the season, but he's SO good defensively. Better than Cabrera, as far as I can tell. He also only costs 2.3 million or something. If we could get him along with some arms to trade to Cleveland for Crisp in a deal for Wells (perhaps we pay LA some money), then eventually our lineup would be something like:

 

Crisp

Loretta

Ortiz

Manny

Tek

Trot

Lowell

Youkilis

Izturis

 

Schill

Beckett

Millwood

Wakefield

Papelbon/Clement/Arroyo

 

The left side of our infield would be gg caliber and very solid defensively. Crisp would be a good player in CF, and could move to RF if Trot moves to LF when Manny leaves. THere are lots of options.

 

Considering most of my posts get completely ignored you might not read this, but, I was thinking along the same lines. Having Cora step in until Izturis is ready wouldn't upset me very much if we could sign Millwood and deal Wells for him, what does concern me though is that we have a shot at Brazoban I think we have to take. A year ago people were talking about Brazoban as the second coming of Mariano Rivera, and then when he struggled this year the buzz completely died and he has no more upside apparently. I love it when that happens, people give up on prospects like that, and then they often go on to flourish in other places (a la Konerko getting traded by the Dodgers to the Whitesox as a 'Used to have potential no longer does' prospect and look how that turned out) This could be the same sort of thing.

 

Wells doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who could bring you back Brazoban and prospects, but I wouldn't doubt that Graff and Wells could bring you back Brazoban and Izturis. That could be quite the deal.

 

Now this was said by Neyer, and I have to say I don't completely disagree:

Rob Neyer: "I don't know anything about Crisp's defense, except he got pushed out of center field by Sizemore. I'll tell you this, though: within two or three years, Crisp will be just as good a hitter as Johnny Damon. And for that matter, so will Jeremy Reed."

 

I think Jeremy Reed is the guy we want here. This guy has quite a glove, but struggled with a wrist injury that ended up hampering his offensive contributions but he is a former top 10 prospect and is only 25, this is a guy who will catch and hit the ball from a key position who we can really get on the cheap since the entire city of Seattle wants this guy dealt. Now getting him could be curtailed if we don't make a move on Millwood to dry up the pitching market for Seattle and essentially give even more of an in on a Reed for Clement deal.

 

Crisp is going to be expendable when the Guardians complete their deal for Langerhans of the Braves so he would be a possibilty as well. Things aren't bleak, guys. Glaus is no big deal and Damon wasn't worth that contract. We'd be hampered down the road if we gave in to some of these high priced guys who have left us in years passed. This is why Theo has always been a short contract guy, you need to turn the roster over from time to time and this is what is happening now. Pedro leaves, we get out of what could have been a serious financial burden, same with Johnny.

 

Getting Millwood lets us do these things, we could get Izturis for SS who not only has GG caliber defense but this guy was on my fantasy team last year and he batted .330 for the first half. He fell off, but who cares thats more than you will get from Lugo and you won't have to give up Marte to bring back Izturis either because the Dodgers aren't coming off the high of getting Kazmir for Victor Zambrano a couple years back so they're almost completely sane.

 

Someone please read this, this might be the only good post I ever contribute to this site.

[schillingouttheks]

Considering most of my posts get completely ignored you might not read this, but, I was thinking along the same lines. Having Cora step in until Izturis is ready wouldn't upset me very much if we could sign Millwood and deal Wells for him, what does concern me though is that we have a shot at Brazoban I think we have to take. A year ago people were talking about Brazoban as the second coming of Mariano Rivera, and then when he struggled this year the buzz completely died and he has no more upside apparently. I love it when that happens, people give up on prospects like that, and then they often go on to flourish in other places (a la Konerko getting traded by the Dodgers to the Whitesox as a 'Used to have potential no longer does' prospect and look how that turned out) This could be the same sort of thing.

 

Wells doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who could bring you back Brazoban and prospects, but I wouldn't doubt that Graff and Wells could bring you back Brazoban and Izturis. That could be quite the deal.

 

Now this was said by Neyer, and I have to say I don't completely disagree:

Rob Neyer: "I don't know anything about Crisp's defense, except he got pushed out of center field by Sizemore. I'll tell you this, though: within two or three years, Crisp will be just as good a hitter as Johnny Damon. And for that matter, so will Jeremy Reed."

 

I think Jeremy Reed is the guy we want here. This guy has quite a glove, but struggled with a wrist injury that ended up hampering his offensive contributions but he is a former top 10 prospect and is only 25, this is a guy who will catch and hit the ball from a key position who we can really get on the cheap since the entire city of Seattle wants this guy dealt. Now getting him could be curtailed if we don't make a move on Millwood to dry up the pitching market for Seattle and essentially give even more of an in on a Reed for Clement deal.

 

Crisp is going to be expendable when the Guardians complete their deal for Langerhans of the Braves so he would be a possibilty as well. Things aren't bleak, guys. Glaus is no big deal and Damon wasn't worth that contract. We'd be hampered down the road if we gave in to some of these high priced guys who have left us in years passed. This is why Theo has always been a short contract guy, you need to turn the roster over from time to time and this is what is happening now. Pedro leaves, we get out of what could have been a serious financial burden, same with Johnny.

 

Getting Millwood lets us do these things, we could get Izturis for SS who not only has GG caliber defense but this guy was on my fantasy team last year and he batted .330 for the first half. He fell off, but who cares thats more than you will get from Lugo and you won't have to give up Marte to bring back Izturis either because the Dodgers aren't coming off the high of getting Kazmir for Victor Zambrano a couple years back so they're almost completely sane.

 

Someone please read this, this might be the only good post I ever contribute to this site.

 

It was a good post

 

I totally agree. I'm a Cesar fan, and if Millwood gets the job done in order to bring Reed/Cesar here, then by God get it done.

 

Short contracts was also a good point. Get what you can out of it, then if you're lucky, they'll come back to you. But you have to make sure you can get the best out of your players. Here in Boston, knowing Tito, he won't give up on Reed or Cesar at all, and being that they're both young, that's a good thing. These guys could definitely flourish in front of our eyes, and there's nothing better than seeing some guys you were patient with all along really pay off for you down the road. Like I said, interesting post.

[riverside sluggers]

Millwood is strictly known as a groundball pitcher, but can get you around 150Ks

 

An infield behind him of 2 time gold gloverLowell, Cora/Izturis, Loretta, and Youk with 6 time gold glover JT Snow in the running to be signed as a 1st baseman backstop--I have good thoughts about that

 

and yes i do agree ksushi, you had a well thought out post

[schillingouttheks]

I don't know much about JT Snow...if we signed him as a backup 1B would it be similar to having Olerud as the backup? I just wanna know what the ability relationship between Olerud and Snow is.

[riverside sluggers]

eh, I wouldnt mind Youkilis being the everyday starter. Compiled with Snow coming as the late innings guy, kind of like what we saw with Mienky back in 04. Or it could be a Youk/Snow platoon. Either way Ill be a happy guy.

 

I just saw his stats, and another sox/yanks players swap would happen. Snow was drafted in 1989 by the Yankees

[ksushi]

Olerud is so good with the glove I dont think that snow will compare although he is pretty good. I think that youkilis deserves the everyday job and he has great on base potential. If he doesn't get the job done, I would like to see Lowell moved, if everyone had so much confidence in a mediocre glove man like Glaus making the switch, Lowell should go to first and become what Olerud was. He won't, but he will be good. Then give 3rd to Marte.

[example1]

I think they're pretty similar actually. I would guess that Olerud is better offensively, Snow better defensively. He's made some fantastic plays in the past. I think he's similar to Doug Mientkeiwicz as well.

 

Ksushi, great post. I read your stuff man. I just don't always respond right away. Good stuff though.

 

So Izturis it is then fellas? I'll let Jed know that we made up our mind...

[schillingouttheks]

Olerud is so good with the glove I dont think that snow will compare although he is pretty good. I think that youkilis deserves the everyday job and he has great on base potential. If he doesn't get the job done, I would like to see Lowell moved, if everyone had so much confidence in a mediocre glove man like Glaus making the switch, Lowell should go to first and become what Olerud was. He won't, but he will be good. Then give 3rd to Marte.

Wow, good point. For some reason I never thought of that. Marte is also ready for the majors. I'm excited to see what the kid can bring to the table in an atmosphere like Boston.

[yankeessuck013]

Back to the millwood situation the rangers aren't going to give him a 5 year offer, after the Chan Ho Park debacle.