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With the amount of critical close plays in baseball, why shouldn't the be a Replay system for umpires to get it right. Obviously, can't be used for balls and strikes, but what about all those other killer plays ? Any thoughts guys/ gals ?
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With the amount of critical close plays in baseball, why shouldn't the be a Replay system for umpires to get it right. Obviously, can't be used for balls and strikes, but what about all those other killer plays ? Any thoughts guys/ gals ?

 

Perhaps this would take away from the integrity of the game. It won't be as exciting to watch a close play knowing that the Umps will just automatically get to review. There wouldn't be any more fan arguing and coaches coming out of the dugouts to challenge. Baseball would lose its spontaneous anything-can-happen style. I'd be kinda bored with it.

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Perhaps this would take away from the integrity of the game. It won't be as exciting to watch a close play knowing that the Umps will just automatically get to review. There wouldn't be any more fan arguing and coaches coming out of the dugouts to challenge. Baseball would lose its spontaneous anything-can-happen style. I'd be kinda bored with it.

 

I beg to differ, "integrity of the game " by who's standards ? Lowering of the mound, DH, juiced balls, strike zone, greenies, roids, pick one. Who said atomatically, could be an extra umpire, challenges, think outside the box a little. They have alreading demonstrated a willingness to overturn plays.

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thats all in true forms, but still dude for them to replay every call, god we would be seeing some long-ass games for umpires to convert and watch the replays. last october games had lasted past 5 hours without replays. baseball would surely miss the entertainment that showed managers throwing tantrums about the calls bu umpires
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thats all in true forms, but still dude for them to replay every call, god we would be seeing some long-ass games for umpires to convert and watch the replays. last october games had lasted past 5 hours without replays. baseball would surely miss the entertainment that showed managers throwing tantrums about the calls bu umpires

That' true, but if you have an appeal umpire, that's who you'd be bitching with. Or whatever, 2 appeals, etc. they replay the hell out of them anyway. Maybe, it'll bring in more television revenue ( keep down ticket prices - ya right ). But it seems to be a demonstrated trend of reviewing and at times reversing decisions. Just trying to envoke a little conversation. I'm just wondering if anyone has any ideas to make the game a little fairer.

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Can we have like a cage fight between these two, winner takes avatar, because it's really confusing.

 

Anyways arguements about that there is no integrity of the game.

 

Lowering the mound - needed to be done

 

DH- One of the best thing that has happened to baseball, great for people like Ortiz who dont have a glove, and sluggers getting on in age

 

Strikezone- Is good how it is now

 

Juiced balls- Prove it

 

Steroids- all in the players control replay is an actual desicion that baseball controls, baseball can not control what it's players do

 

I believe that the game does not need replay and that the integrity is important, call me a purist, call me whatever but it is important.

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Can we have like a cage fight between these two, winner takes avatar, because it's really confusing.

 

Anyways arguements about that there is no integrity of the game.

 

Lowering the mound - needed to be done

 

DH- One of the best thing that has happened to baseball, great for people like Ortiz who dont have a glove, and sluggers getting on in age

 

Strikezone- Is good how it is now

 

Juiced balls- Prove it

 

Steroids- all in the players control replay is an actual desicion that baseball controls, baseball can not control what it's players do

 

I believe that the game does not need replay and that the integrity is important, call me a purist, call me whatever but it is important.

 

 

Lowering the Mound - I really don't think it was nessicary. People seem to love high scoring in other sports, but most of the baseball fans I know inlcuding myself, would rather see a 1-0 game where theres a pitchers duel than a 17-16 game.

 

DH - The DH is only a bad idea because it is only used in one league. If you want to keep it then you have to put it in the NL. The DH gives the AL a distinct advantage in a home WS game because AL teams carry a player just to fill that DH role, the NL doesn't.

 

Strikezone - The strikezone is fine it's just that every umpire has his own interperatation of it.

 

Juiced Balls - HA. More like juiced players.

 

Steroids - see above

 

Anyway I think that replay should be implemented in the game. We all what the right calls to be made and the right team to win don't we? Why would you want a wrong decision to be made, that could cost your team its season, instead of just stopping the game for a minute and checking the replay. Baseball is the hardest game to officiate because there are so many bang bang plays. Replay would only be a positive for baseball, not a negative.

 

I also think that Pitch Quest thing or whatever it's called should be installed in every stadium. Even though it will never be used to replace the homeplate umpire, it has been proven that umps miss less calls with Pitch Quest in the stadium.

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Sometimes replay doesn't make a call any clearer - like whether Schilling touched the bag - it LOOKED like he grazed it - but there wasn't anything that was conclusive about it, and personally (this is without bias that I say this), that home-plate empire must be SOMETHING to watch the play at home, THEN look allllll the way over there and be so certain that he was out.

 

Those plays are so close, that unless you have some censor in the glove coordinating with a censor on the mound, there's not a way to be absolutely sure about it. I'd prefer that human error come from the players, but that's how the game works, and every team gets gypted at some point, so eh, it evens out?

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Sometimes replay doesn't make a call any clearer - like whether Schilling touched the bag - it LOOKED like he grazed it - but there wasn't anything that was conclusive about it, and personally (this is without bias that I say this), that home-plate empire must be SOMETHING to watch the play at home, THEN look allllll the way over there and be so certain that he was out.

 

Those plays are so close, that unless you have some censor in the glove coordinating with a censor on the mound, there's not a way to be absolutely sure about it. I'd prefer that human error come from the players, but that's how the game works, and every team gets gypted at some point, so eh, it evens out?

 

I believe that it does even out through a season because like you said every team gets boned on a call at one time or another. However, I think with the addition of replay less teams would get boned less often.

 

I don't wanna hear that baseball games are already too long. If you can't stand watching an entire baseball game because it takes too long then you are not a fan of the sport. At least with baseball there is a lot of action in between commercials. Sometimes in football games its 1 play, commercial, 1 play, commercial, 1 play commercial, time out, punt, commercial, kick off commercial. Yes I agree that baseball games do take a long time, but I don't think that in retrospect they take any longer than a football game.

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I think they should do it like the coach's challenge in football, have a couple a game, but theres no timeouts in baseball so I don't how they would penalize the team if they lost the challenge...but I would do it for the really controversial stuff, like a close play at home or that A-Rod purse-slap from last year.
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Depends on how long they would deliberate the call? Would it be possible that it would "throw a pitcher out of rhythm", or whatever notions that seem to be present in baseball. :blink:

 

Oh you know football likes to milk it's commercial time for all it's worth! :D

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Depends on how long they would deliberate the call? Would it be possible that it would "throw a pitcher out of rhythm", or whatever notions that seem to be present in baseball. :blink:

 

Oh you know football likes to milk it's commercial time for all it's worth! :D

 

I don't think it would take a pitcher out of his rhythm anymore than a manager arguing a call for 5 minutes does.

 

As far as a system goes, I say that the coaches have no choice in weither or not a play is reviewed. The umps come together as they do now, and if none of them feel they got a clear enough look at the play they will go to the replay. If you do it like that then you don't have to worry about how many challanges to give each manager, or how to punish them for incorrect challanges.

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^ I think baseball managers are taken the least seriously by the umpires (when compared to football and basketball coaches). And also by the commishes. When JVG "inconspiciously" alluded to referee watch on Yao Ming, he gets fined and that close to losing his job. We sure know Bud Selig cares about the integrity of his game, sure do...ok, he's making somewhat of an effort, now. Is the Rogers thing STILL dragging on...oh, another saga.

 

There's a certain flow to baseball; whereas football is in itself a start-stop game, and basketball - well everyone calls time-outs that they don't have (yeah, I know that's a techincal, but it certainly feels that way), or SHOULDN'T have.

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