ban the chumps

[sarasoxfan]

It's hard to believe what I am reading here. If you cheat, but do well, you are forgiven. If you lie under oath but say what people want to hear you are forgiven. Shaunessey and every sportswriter in the country agree that mcgwire is a cheating slime, and duped the world by cheating. The only poeple who seem forgiving are in here.

The big deal is that he took performance enhancing drugs and then after canseco's book came out he denied taking them..but under oath he didnt.The big deal is the guy cheated and was caught, and then he cried like a bitch.He should be stripped of his records and banned from the Hall...whether he saved baseball or not is irrelevent he is ruining it now. Sosa defintely was taking roids and is cheater as well.

[RedSox24]

Alrite what i am hearing here is incredibly frickin absurd. All you people in here are extremely stupid except for the people who think that Cheaters should be punished/excommunicated. It is crazy to say that eventhough Mcguire and other felons tainted baseball, that by doing that they saved the sport. That is ridiculous and all you idiots are crazy to even think that. Either all of you are mentally stupid or are just lying to yourselves because you are sexually attracted to that player. I am disgraced to know that this site is full of Redsox fans.

[CrespoBlows]

It's hard to believe what I am reading here. If you cheat, but do well, you are forgiven. If you lie under oath but say what people want to hear you are forgiven. Shaunessey and every sportswriter in the country agree that mcgwire is a cheating slime, and duped the world by cheating. The only poeple who seem forgiving are in here.

The big deal is that he took performance enhancing drugs and then after canseco's book came out he denied taking them..but under oath he didnt.The big deal is the guy cheated and was caught, and then he cried like a bitch.He should be stripped of his records and banned from the Hall...whether he saved baseball or not is irrelevent he is ruining it now. Sosa defintely was taking roids and is cheater as well.

 

What records does McGwire have? The single season HR? No that belongs to Bonds (who needs to be banned from baseball) If I had a vote, I wouldn't vote McGwire into the hall, but all I'm saying is, this guy saved baseball. If him and Sosa weren't around baseball would of been on strike back in 2002. He should be given some leeway in the media.

[sarasoxfan]

why? I still dont understand the logic.

 

You cheat, you lie you pay the price. If you kill someone, get caught selling drugs or using them, or stealing you dont get leeway because you are a nice guy.

 

He didnt save baseball, his home run pursuit was entertaining...

 

I dont think anyone is above the rules--I'm sure mark is a swell guy, but he is also cheater..

Hang him.

[Sox fan in Tex]

He didnt save baseball, his home run pursuit was entertaining...

 

The 2nd part of that sentence is why he and Sosa saved baseball.

[CrespoBlows]

why? I still dont understand the logic.

 

You cheat, you lie you pay the price. If you kill someone, get caught selling drugs or using them, or stealing you dont get leeway because you are a nice guy.

 

He didnt save baseball, his home run pursuit was entertaining...

 

I dont think anyone is above the rules--I'm sure mark is a swell guy, but he is also cheater..

Hang him.

 

Yes and he will be punished and not make the hall of fame

 

Your actually comparing steriods, to killing someone? Not even close

[sarasoxfan]

I was a making a point, that being nice doesnt get you leeway.

even if he did cotnribute to saving baseball (which isnt true) it doesnt matter...

 

no one should be above the law. Part of the problem with this whole thing is that these overpaid freaks think they are above the rules. Like Bonds.

 

Hang him too.

[CrespoBlows]

Yeah, I'd hang Bonds, because he's a dick, and he really thinks he's above the law.

 

But McGwire's punishment is not being elected to the HOF, which is a good punishment.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Alrite what i am hearing here is incredibly frickin absurd. All you people in here are extremely stupid except for the people who think that Cheaters should be punished/excommunicated. It is crazy to say that eventhough Mcguire and other felons tainted baseball, that by doing that they saved the sport. That is ridiculous and all you idiots are crazy to even think that. Either all of you are mentally stupid or are just lying to yourselves because you are sexually attracted to that player. I am disgraced to know that this site is full of Redsox fans.

 

 

well thank you for that idiotic statement. after reading something like that, no one here is going to take your statement seriously.

 

 

nevermind, f*** it. i am about to stop coming here, some people seem to be immature whiny bitches or think that whatever they thinks is f***ing right, and that people should die because they cheated, or i'm an idiot because i watch baseball just to watch it, and i don't care if players are juiced because IT AFFECTS MY LIFE IN NO f***ING WAY. get over it, christ.

[Yanksin2010]

here's something topical

heat 97, knicks 82

you changing subjuct? Couldn't be!

[CrespoBlows]

I think New England has owned New York this year in everything

 

VT over SU for one!

[ahhchon]

people are so original these days..

 

but seriously, you guys are making a huge deal out of nothing. if it wasn't for big mac baseball wouldn't be as big as it was today. canseco did amazing things with his 40/40. it bred a new league of players.

 

i personally do not feel that steriods can make a good player a great player. i do believe that it can make a very very very very good player a great player.

 

john

[RedSox24]

well thank you for that idiotic statement. after reading something like that, no one here is going to take your statement seriously.

 

 

nevermind, f*** it. i am about to stop coming here, some people seem to be immature whiny bitches or think that whatever they thinks is f***ing right, and that people should die because they cheated, or i'm an idiot because i watch baseball just to watch it, and i don't care if players are juiced because IT AFFECTS MY LIFE IN NO f***ING WAY. get over it, christ.

 

 

you must be f***ing kidding, everybody on this site is ALWAYS right. everything they say is definitive. "Hanley will be outstanding" you sure? I mean lemme be hypothetical here someone good in the minors doing bad in the majors, nahhh never.

[element1151]

You ever look at Sosa when he was with the Rangers? Damn he was skinner than an aneroxic person with a 50 calorie diet.

 

http://www.freewebtown.com/baseballstars/sosa3.jpg

Only pic i could find.

 

Aslo this fun one:

http://www.angelfire.com/me5/bryananthony/images/steroids.gif

[sarasoxfan]

I'm not sure how anyone can belittle the impact steroids have on a player.

This picture of cheatin sammy and other pictures of these criminials at earlier points in their careers make it very clear that steroids have completely changed who they are and how strong they are.

 

98% of the world belives that steroidds turn a good player into a better player and arguing the point seems futile--because it is so friggin obvious.

I guess this is one of those we agree to disagree moments.

 

And now with only 13 days left until opening day we can turn out guns on the rest of the league as opposed to each other.

 

Time will be the judge of what happens to these creeps and IMO the judgment will be harsh.

Whatever the impact that the MCGwire's of the world had on baseball--some say saving the game , others say not, in his brief testimony Mac destroyed his own legacy and will be remebered by 98% of the fans a cheating *******. Count me in the 98%

[gosox613]

for those of you who said sammy was skinnier in tex: go to this site, i dont find a significant difference. remember, innnocent until proven guilty

 

http://www.zeprock.com/SosaGallery.html

[CrespoBlows]

he actually has a neck in that picture

[BigPapiEnFuego]

other then a little bulk, he looks the same. he doesn't look drastically different like Barry Bonds or Giambi did.

[RedSox24]

http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/15655.JPG

 

Roids do a lot

[sarasoxfan]

that picture would be hilarious if it wasnt so accurate.

[ahhchon]

you guys are absolutely rediculous.

 

look, we all know taking steriods can enchance muscle mass, but from what you guys say he doubled in size. first off, having a strict diet (strict and proper that is) along with an intense workout routine can put weight on ANY baseball player. look and bonds today and bonds when he first came into the league, yeah, he's very much so different but it's not as drastic as all you media tools think.

 

i put on 20% of my bodyweight by just working out and eating well, this is during school and not being able to afford the best foods either. someone like bonds who is filthy rich and probably has his own damn gym, personal trainer and chef can easily increase his body weight by 20%. i'm not saying he didn't use steroids, he did, but they are not the only reason he's a big guy. you need a strict serious workout in order to gain mass, with or without steriods.

 

his head size hasn't increased. anyone who says that is a friggan moron. stop spitting out exactly what the media writes, especially dan shittessy. form opinions of your own for petes sake. peoples head DO NOT GROW after the plates of your skull has fused. here, let me say it again, your skull is made up of plates, once they FUSE they no longer grow. taking steriods do not increase muscle mass in your face, you'de have to workout your face muscles too (:-/, bond insult waiting to happen). his head looks bigger because he's put on weight, when adding mass to your body you also increase triglyceride storage. the first place you will notice it is your face. go eat a very fatty meal, take before and after pics, you'll notice it on yourself.

 

i'll go more into detail on this when the semester is over and i have time to explain steriods to you tools. i'm not promoting steriods, all i'm saying is that if they are done properly they can be safe and help people in some way, yes, there are side affect but that's a risk some are willing to take. they are illegal in the US because too many retards teenage males would take them thinking they'll get huge. if teenagers can't depended to drink properly how can you expect them to take steriods properly.

 

steriods increase muscle mass, they don't increase hand eye coordination, mechanics, or ability to hit a baseball. that seems to be something everyone overlooks.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

steriods increase muscle mass, they don't increase hand eye coordination, mechanics, or ability to hit a baseball. that seems to be something everyone overlooks.

 

Um, Einstien doesnt increasing muscle mass mean you can, thanks to a chemical hit the f***ing ball further than you would have without it.

 

It's called cheating dum-dum.

somehow that 20% you put on your body moved from your brain, beacuse usual you are wrong.

 

You say they are illegal. then wouldnt it make sense that if these players took them that they were doing some thing wrong.

 

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

[ahhchon]

steriods increase muscle mass, they don't increase hand eye coordination, mechanics, or ability to hit a baseball. that seems to be something everyone overlooks.

 

Um, Einstien doesnt increasing muscle mass mean you can, thanks to a chemical hit the f***ing ball further than you would have without it.

 

It's called cheating dum-dum.

somehow that 20% you put on your body moved from your brain, beacuse usual you are wrong.

 

You say they are illegal. then wouldnt it make sense that if these players took them that they were doing some thing wrong.

 

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

 

^ is this guy for real?

 

do you even read what you write? seriously? yeah, having greater muscle mass improves the distance in which you hit the ball, but it's proven (espn article) that it only increases 3-5 yards. who knows, for all we know bonds could have felt "jipped" or "jelous" of helton because of the coors effect, he wanted to "even" the odds. who knows.. everything is possible.

 

just think about it, put pokey reese on steriods. do you think his production is going to increase dramatically if any? i doubt it. he'll still only start for his defensive abilities. people like bonds, mcqwire etc can play ball because they are great ball players. steriods helped of course, but only to a certain extent.

 

yes, 20 lbs of neurons turned into skeletal muscle . if you're going to use sarcasm at least make it realistic. that's not even something my 18 yr old sister would use.

 

i said NOTHING about it being OK for players to take steroids. if you actually READ what i said (reading being a huge problem for you) you would realize that i made comments on his head size and how you are all tools of the media. you're little robots spitting out what dan shittessy says. don't you find that pathetic, not having an opinion of your own, not coming up with anything original? I personally don't have anything against bonds, i don't know him, i don't know his character, all i know is what the media says and portrays. i refuse to be manipulated by the media, hell manny used to be a bad guy to some people! i don't like the fact that bonds has used steriods because it does change the numbers but there is nothing i can do about it. bitching is not going to help, it adds stress that i would rather not deal with.

 

the difference with me is that I prefer baseball without steriods, scandals and all that other junk that is tied along with it. you on the other hand would burn anyone alive that has used steroids. there are things MUCH MUCH worse than steriods out there. why don't you use some of this passionate hate you have for steriods and go put it into community service where you can make a difference and help people other than sit online all day trying to make everyone conform to your views towards steriods.

 

as a matter of fact, start some neighborhood watch, go out and try to stop a robbery or murder, even spousal abuse, all of those are far worse than steriods in my opinion.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

I am beginning to wonder if you have a brain at all.

 

3-5 yards turns a long out into a home run.

 

a ball to the warning track or up against the fence + 3-5 yards = a home run.

 

ITS CHEATING!!!

 

 

Maniuplated by the media, what the f*** are you talking about. I happen to agree with everyone else in the world on this one expect for you.

"I dont know barry bonds"...that's your old crap that you used with pedro.

I know enough from that news conference that he is ego manical *******, and he is cheater. I watched it and decided for myself. No one in the media made him act like a big dick head.

 

I am going to use my passionate hate to picket your physical therapy clinic and pass out leaflets to your patients giving them a number to a lawyer to sue your skeletal muscle right off your back.

 

Dial I 800-S-U-E- John....

[ahhchon]

I am beginning to wonder if you have a brain at all.

 

3-5 yards turns a long out into a home run.

 

a ball to the warning track or up against the fence + 3-5 yards = a home run.

 

ITS CHEATING!!!

 

 

Maniuplated by the media, what the f*** are you talking about. I happen to agree with everyone else in the world on this one expect for you.

"I dont know barry bonds"...that's your old crap that you used with pedro.

I know enough from that news conference that he is ego manical *******, and he is cheater. I watched it and decided for myself. No one in the media made him act like a big dick head.

 

I am going to use my passionate hate to picket your physical therapy clinic and pass out leaflets to your patients giving them a number to a lawyer to sue your skeletal muscle right off your back.

 

Dial I 800-S-U-E- John....

 

wow, i don't think i've ever met anyone who got so worked up over the internet... lol

 

:thumbsup:

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

believe me, it's more astonishing in person.

 

I scare myself.

[ahhchon]

you should seriously consider some yogo or some therapy if you are serious about it being worse in person. i sure hope you don't display any of that to your family and/or friends.

 

"you can't fase me no matter how punk you act

no matter what you do i don't react

i'm a perfect example of not giving a f***

about the caddy rude people who just suck"

 

learn to chill, life is too short to be stressed about s***.

 

john

[BigPapiEnFuego]

What is funny to me is sarasoxfan calling you an idiot, yet can't even form a proper sentence that i have yet to understand.

 

a mark twain quote came to my mind when i read this thread.

"It is better to be thought of as an idiot then to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

[CrespoBlows]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/1-14-05/interesting-thread.jpg

[ahhchon]

giggles.

 

john